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Good now you can go back to the top of the thread and vote accordingly now that you have seen the light. The thread never was about the selfish poachers, but no one here could get that. | |||
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You still haven't named the case where poaching deer is BETTER than accepting public assistance. My vote stands.
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Can we all agree that poaching for hunger is the exception rather than the rule.....more like an absolute rarity? The dead horse is no longer detectable by virtue of being beaten out of existence in this thread. | |||
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No doubt. I never disagreed with that. Can we all admit that never was the topic of this thread? | |||
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Well not only can you not answer questions but apparently you do not read the entire thread. | |||
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You still haven't named a single case where poaching is better than accepting public assistance. Are you a poacher?
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Only when I visit "cul va".  | |||
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You have stated that poaching is always better than accepting public assistance. Try to get control of your emotions, and maybe you can think a little more clearly.
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Sounds like you still did it the Legal way? | |||
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Sounds like you did your best. Most people would not blame you for doing what you needed to.
Sand Creek November 29 1864 | |||
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So only socialists can discuss socialism?  By the way I have news for you. If you bought anyone Christmas gifts you weren't starving. Get off your high horse and realize anyone here can discuss this. You're no better than anyone else. I have to say I am surprised to see the snobbery of someone accepting handouts towards the people who payed for his meal ticket. You are quickly proving my point of a subsistance poacher being better than you. | |||
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Yes anything legal is ethicly OK. Like slavery, or hanging horse thieves, or taxing dead people. Maybe when they bring the age of consent down to 14 it will be OK, afterall then it would be legal. | |||
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I am really starting to get the feeling of youthful naivety and exuberance. And a lack of real world experience. How old are you?
Sand Creek November 29 1864 | |||
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Now you are getting funny. Only naivety would make a man think his age makes him superior in inteligence to someone else. I have news for you, idiots abound whether they are 18 or 70. I am 34. How old are you? You still aren't old enough to answer one single question I have asked you. Or is it just naivety? | |||
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people justify things in there mind in thier own way. if you have the energy and ability to pouch, then you have you have it to do something legit.  | |||
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Well, you sure do talk exactly like a male teenage know-it-all. It's kind of embarrassing hearing how I sounded when I was 15 years old. I guess that's just who you are.
Sand Creek November 29 1864 | |||
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When I was 15 I could answer a question like a man. That is more than you can do now. Don't be embarrassed for what you failed at when you were fifteen, be embarrassed for your foolishness now. | |||
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I respect youp50 for stepping up and saying that he took PA. He did what he could to keep his family fed and a roof over their head legally. I know if I were in his situation I’d sure as hell be doing everything legal to provide my family with as normal of a life as I could. It takes a far better man than you to admit when he is struggling and ask for help whether it be from family or government. No need to discuss legality and ethics with you as obviously you don’t have a clue on either. It appears to me your moral compass points in the convenient directions as it seems to be broken. Can't wait to read what is spewed forth from your keyboard next! | |||
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Is that your excuse for dodging my legal questions that not one of you selfrighteous socialists were willing to answer? | |||
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Wow. You couldn't have vomited out any more useless info if you tried, and you still won't answer my questions that I asked. Is that maturity? Learning to say a hole lot of nothing and never have to face the fact that you are a nuttless socialist? I am sure you would take mine to feed yours. That is what leeches do, and your in luck, because the government will help you do it. Maybe that's how you decide you are mature. Because the gubmint is on your side. | |||
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I just had to revisit this. This is really the heart of the issue isn't it. You actually believe that this is some kind of revelation.I thought you were just being silly. But you actually think this gem of knowledge that most average people have figured out by the time they are about 22 years old, you really think you are going to explain this to other people. Amazing. You actually believe everybody is that much less educated than you. This concept that you think you think you need to teach to everybody else is only slightly more complicated than how to tie your shoes. And just in case you STILL don't get it,everybody already knows that things are rarely matters of black and white. I've had about enough of this silliness. How in the world can you possibly not know this? Did you socialize with humans while you were gowing up?(You I have no idea what your deal is but I am not bothering with you anymore.
Sand Creek November 29 1864 | |||
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Moderators.....PLEASE get this nonsense out of the American Big Game Hunting section. It has nothing to do with hunting......send it to the PAF or Misc. crapola bin.  | |||
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No. But you probably are.  | |||
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Norton, You don't have to click here if you don't want to. There is plenty of other things to feed your interest. Quit worrying about control over other people. | |||
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smarty pants.....your a 1 man show for the straight jacket brigade. They are coming for you. | |||
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When are you guys gonna realize he would argue with a fence post, if it would argue back. Hell, he probably does!  Graybird "Make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after ... it's the reckoning." | |||
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 Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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This was as productive as arguing with fenceposts. Everyone else took the topic off thread and no one could answer my questions. Everyone here was more inclined to talk trash. We even had one government leech tell us we had no right to judge the wellfare system, that takes our money,until we had been on wellfare ourselves.  Do any of you out there believe somewhere that there is a law written that could be wrong, or maybe just overreaching a little bit? Is there any law anywhere that you would stand against? Are yall that brainwashed? | |||
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Sorry, my bad.
Sand Creek November 29 1864 | |||
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smarterthanu, please don't over-generalize in your attacks--you might get some who have essentially agreed with you. As I posted earlier, "In times of Need" is the presumptive preface to the original question. The times when this applies to me will indeed be dour, at least in my imagination. It will not be a time when one goes down to pick up food-stamps and heads to Walmart for a shopping cart full of high fat and sugar foods. It will be a time of stand-in-line for your porridge and cracker, but only if you can supply your Gov't approved voucher. In that case, I will certainly poach if I am physically able and still live in the woods. For those who live in town and must take the dole to survive, then I have nothing derogatory to say about them. Poaching in America at present is nearly always done by slobs, who are frequently also getting every gov't benefit they possibly can. They are despicable. Poachers in Africa are of at least two distinctly different types--those who are trying to get protein for their hungry family, and those who are well-fed and trying to make money. Unfortunately, the ones who end up killed by game-rangers are usually of the first type, because the second is well-armed and usually with some gov't ties. Steve "He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin Tanzania 06 Argentina08 Argentina Australia06 Argentina 07 Namibia Arnhemland10 Belize2011 Moz04 Moz 09 | |||
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I suppose by poaching you mean shooting a deer without a tag. Most states have fairly cheap resident deer tags (or tags for other game). If someone is that poor can they really afford the risk of getting caught? | |||
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