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Or is it the 8mm kropatschek??? Anyone want to turn their 8mm WSM into an antique smokeless but rimless?
http://www.municion.org/8x50r/8x50r.htm
http://www.geocities.com/milsurpunderground/8mmLebel.html
http://www.gunsworld.com/french/bert_leb/lebel_cart_us.html



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I've heard from an old french friend that the Lebel rifle and especially the carbine (mousqueton) were quite unpleasant to shoot, due to their strong recoil.
 
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