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9.3 x 62 Mauser by Otto Bock. He created a decent beer as well. | |||
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Except for being useful for shooting pistol and lever action bullets like the better whelen, the 9,3x62 ain’t bad 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Most all of my rifles are used only for hunting. I don't have a .243 or a .270 because I have a 25-06. I don't have a 30.06 or .338 Win Mag because I have a 300 Win Mag. I don't have a 35 Whelen because I have a .358 Win and a 9.3x62. For most everything I have ever hunted, with the exception of squirrels, rabbits and birds, the 9.3x62 would fit the bill for me. My 358 Win serves as a nice backup. Start young, hunt hard, and enjoy God's bounty. | |||
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Trade the 9,3x62 for a 9,3x57 and trade the 358 Win for a 358 Whelen 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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A medium bore sure covers a lot of ground. My goodness. I like a good medium bore because it helps my shot placement. A premium bullet, proper loaded and put in the right place. It's interesting reading some of this. Hope yall are as particular on your knives. | |||
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300 Norma Mike | |||
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I tend to go with "flavor of the month" and the latest-greatest in my safe. 2018, seemed like all my game was taken with the venerable "06 2019 took my Whitey and a cow moose with 7x57 2020, this year I have a lovely little 350 rem mag on a remington 660 action. Super light, and should be a great gun for traversing the mountain bush for elk. And now, I have aquired a beautiful 300H&H Cooper, that should work for my prairie mule deer! | |||
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9.3x62 is what the.35 Whelen wants to be when it grows up! Ah, to dream..... | |||
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Boom stick, I appreciate the suggestion but don't think I would accomplish a thing by such a trade. I would be trading down but, that's just my opinion. They are all so close in capability for hunting large game. However, I am with you all the way for your support of 45-70's (in your signature line). Absolutely love this caliber. I can't imagine any caliber more fun to shoot than a .458 405+ grain bullet from a 45-70. Start young, hunt hard, and enjoy God's bounty. | |||
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What is the best medium bore lever action? Is it the obscure 35 Rigby? (348 necked up to 358. Only one I know is a double rifle but still would work in a lever action) The 35 Remington? 338 Marlin Express? 30-30? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Watterrat--You removed the photo. I hope I didn't offend you, was not my intent, was just "pulling your leg". | |||
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Superior still makes ammo for the 35 Rigby. | |||
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9.3 x 62 Mauser by Otto Bock. He created a decent beer as well. Tom o You are definitely on the right track, just 2mm short! The 9.3x64mm Brenneke pips them all in a standard length action. Even Jack Lott argued in its case to beat the .375H&H. And yes it certainly does the trick. Only game that I've taken has been pigs & a Rusa deer & only with reduced loads. 270gn Speers at 2100fps do wonders on porkers heading away from you; complete penetration end to end. | |||
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Winchester 1895 carbine in 30-06. although I have levers in 30-30, 308 marlin express, 30-06, 30-40, 307 Winchester, 35 Remington, 38-55, 45/70, 50 Alaskan and 50-110. (not counting handgun rounds) If it needs a scope, I Would go 308 ME or 307 winchester. I was thinking 35 Remington but my marlin is a 1951 gun and has a waffletop. It would be a sin to drill and tap for a scope. | |||
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Well I’ve given this some thought and if I had to keep only one of my rifles it would be my Ruger no.1 in .270 Weatherby magnum. Flat shooting and powerful enough for anything I hunt. | |||
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Is it wrong that I want a lever action in this round?
577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I think they are all good. The only bad one is the 45-70 or 30-30 | |||
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So, the result "Best Medium Bore Cartridge Ever" is difficult to interpret, maybe because each one of us has his or her favorite hunting rifle. But in reality one's bast medium bore rifle at the place one hunts, may bot be the best medium bore rifle at another place. Also, the one that is the best medium bore rifle for one person, is not the same to another person. If there was only "one best medium bore rifle," then all of us would only have the that specific medium bore rifle. Alaska? I would say that the "plain-old" .338WM is the "beast" medium bore cartridge, because you can shoot light or heavy hunting bullets (165-300 grains) out of it. Just kidding with you, folks! | |||
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Yes, though we've already voted. It would be hard to beat the 338 for Alaska all around. The same reasoning holds true for a plains game medium. We use 225gn TTSX because we like velocity over 2800fps but might need some serious penetration. The 250gn LRX at 2650-2700fps would work, too. For elk, the 210TTSX at 2950fps would be great and a person could drop down to 185gnTTSX at 3150fps for deer only. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Agree. The 225-grain TTSX is my favorite, too. While in forested areas where great distance shooting is not possible, one can use one of numerous .33-caliber heavy bullets, but the 225 grainer above is a perfect all around bullet for hunting in the wide-open areas in interior of Alaska, as well as forested areas. The same can be said for a 180-grain bullet fired with the .30-06 if compared to a 250-grain .33-caliber bullet out of the .338WM. If sighted about the same distance for an equal point of impact, the .338 may hold more energy, but he the trajectories are quite similar. I do like the .30-06, but I am more comfortable with the added energy of the .338WM. I am too much of a chicken, I guess | |||
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So what's wrong with these two? Maybe they don't fit in with a modern traveling hunters idea of adaquate but both have downed everything on the North American continent many times over. If all I had was one rifle in either caliber to keep myself fed I would just get on with it with no worries. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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270 Winchester hands down!! NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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That's why all of us has a favorite or two, and none are exactly the same. Your favorites are the ones that work for you for the type of game you hunt, and the place you hunt at. And the same applies even to other hunters in the place you hunt at. Not only that, but your favorite cartridges usually are the ones you depend on, or the ones you are most familiar with (the ones you use). As such, we have all kinds of favorites, but again, most of these dependent on the place/the game you hunt at. Take for example where I hunt at, Alaska. In this case I hunt caribou to moose-size game, and skip the bears (I eat what I kill). The only way I would shoot a bear is in self defense, something than can happen in the areas I hunt at. For this reason ( I am a big chicken), I use a .338WM loaded with ammo that allow for shooting far (in the wide-open tundra), as well as close, ammo that produces the most energy possible without killing my shoulder. While I a .30-30 or .45-70 would kill just as much, there is no way I would use other one to hunt in the open areas of the interior. | |||
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For me it is the 30-06. It is a cartridge I have put aside many times but have always returned to it. I have Rigby and Tikka bolt guns, and a Merkel double and single shot in that great cartridge. All shoot great. I got one of the Ruger African 9.3x62 rifles and I am really enjoying it but have not hunted with it as of yet. However, I have hunted a lot with the 9.3x74R and really enjoy carrying and shooting my Merkel double and Ruger #1 in that cartidge. Safe shooting.......L | |||
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Between .27 and .366 the one I want the most is a .338-06 | |||
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There are a lot of sweet bullets in 33 caliber, however fast you want to send them. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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8mm-06 period Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Excellent choice! My wife and I both own one; hers is a Mauser 98, and mine is a Dakota. She shoots 210 gr. NP, and I shoot 250 gr. NP. I think you will be very happy with the caliber. | |||
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Yup.....and didn't use a tack hammer to do it......30-06 the clear winner. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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