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I ran some Sierra 225 SBT over the speed meter today, I got 2451 fps. This was 30-50 faster than the 200 grain loads with the same powder and charge. (40 gr.IMR 4198) This worked up load was safe in my rifle... Free speech has been executed on the altar of political correctness. | |||
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I would be willing to bet the 358 win would be a candidate for the one gun scenario think about the flexibility it will handle pistol bullets for small game and heavy hc lead for the narly stuff | |||
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Agreed, Anyone that reloads can make a .358 into a great small game and plinking round, right up to a heavy hitter for boar, bear, elk, moose, and more... There's lead and jacketed pistol bullets. Cast offerings and a good many cup & core and premium bullets to choose from. I have to admit though, that mine is a dedicated elk rifle and as such I've not bothered with the fun stuff and just keep her primed with 225 Nosler partitions... Elk, it's what's for dinner..  | |||
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In a 3" magazine the 358x57 improved would be a sweatheart. Close to the 35 Whelen but short action. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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That would be a 358 Mitchell Express ... I'd send you a fireformed headstamped dummy if it wouldn't create an International bloody incident. Mate built it, had Bertram run headstamped brass ... its as fast as a Whelen but from a standard length action. Standard action allowed Barnes pills to stay seated out. I can scan and send an article on it if interested. Cheers... Con | |||
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376 steyr in that configuration v... funny enough, a 9x57 improved , or the thought of it, is what firmly set me on the standard length wildcats that would show up in my future ... some thing stick, yeah! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I ran an 8x57 brass through my 358 Win die just enough to size the neck and seated a 35 cal 250 grain Speer Spitzer in it. I called it the 35 Mauser, I didn't know that it already existed in one form or another. 358x57 is the Euro name for my 35 Mauser. Free speech has been executed on the altar of political correctness. | |||
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Got a good chuckle from that. I see the only reason to do this cart would be to get it in a 3" magazine short action or the 3.1" MRC short action or might as well go with the Whelen. The 35 Rem Mag has a couple more grains than the Whelen and made for a short action but you get one less down but Whelen performance in a short action on 06 brass is a sweet idea. the 35-284 is another beauty. Con, how is the 35-300 RCM going? Yes, please post the article!
577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I know I am a little late on this thread, but a bunch of my buddies have been shooting buffalo in Kansas with the 358 Wichester. The results have been very good, with both 200's and 225's taking the buffalo down easily, In fact one of the guys, who shot his first buffalo with a 35 Whelen, bang flop, is now going to build one on a Remington 600. He calls the cartridge an "over Achiever" and would like to have something on a short action. The others are shooting Pre 64 Model 88's and Marlin Lever Guns. Excellent Cartridge, in the opinion of these buffalo hunters. Jerry NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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The Remington 600 action will be too short for the 35 Whelen, although, it will accomodate the 358 Winchester just fine. Free speech has been executed on the altar of political correctness. | |||
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I had a 358x57 improved built around 1999/2000 Fred Zeglin should still have the reamer. Was built on a TC Encore...that was one of the hardest recoiling rifles I ever owned for some reason so I sold it. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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