Not to confuse this thread with others floating around at the moment;
For some time I have thought it would be slick to have a pair of matching rifles with one chambered in 375 H&H and the other in 300 H&H. That would cover a lot of bases.
Then last year there was some discussion about the timeless 7X57 and a 9.3X62. I thought that those two would also be nice to have in a "pair".
Well since the H&Hs are "Anglo" disign and the 7X57 and 9.3 are a "Saxon" design, I was wondering what would others consider to be their two classic "American" cartridges that would cover say "all the bases". (Classic can mean what ever you want)
I would favor the 338 Win. Mag and a 250 Sav., but then that would leave out my favorite the 270 Win.
Then I thought maybe a 270 and 340 - both Weatherbys in a matching set? But then what about a 5.56X45 and a 30-06?
Obviously there is no absolute answer just opinions. I do think it would be interesting to see what everyone might choose for a matching set.... or nearly so.
Please add what action or complete rifle you would choose if you want.
Staying with in the American realm it would be a Model 70 CRF (New Haven) for me but then that would leave out the SA cartridges.

What would you choose?

What say you?

First would be the .30-06 in a Remington 7600 which I already have in the synthetic model. Second would be the .375 Ruger and I'm still undecided as to the rifle.

.257 Roberts and .35 Whelen.

.223 Remington for varmints and smaller game. AR platform - now that's American!

.338 Winchester Magnum for all else. It can be loaded down for deer, use light high-BC bullets for antelope and sheep, and 'standard' loads for bigger stuff. Remington M700, details are your choice.

A "matching set" has no appeal to me.....

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Originally posted by cobra:
First would be the .30-06 in a Remington 7600 which I already have in the synthetic model. Second would be the .375 Ruger and I'm still undecided as to the rifle.

Cobra, my apologies but I meant in a matching set of rifles..... more or less.
I'll fix my title.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
.257 Roberts and .35 Whelen.

This, but maybe .250 Savage instead of the Roberts.

4 options:
1. 270 Win & 300 Win Mag
2. 264 Win mag & 338 Win Mag.
3. 300 Win Mag & 458 Win Mag
4. 220 Swift & 300 Win Mag

Depending what you hunt most...

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This, but maybe .250 Savage instead of the Roberts.

That sounds reasonable to me.

While they are not matched I do have the 300 and 375 H&H and love them both. But as you requested this is "All American". I realize the 270 gets little love in a lot of circles recently but I see the the 270 and 35 Whelen as a truly "All American" pairing. The 257 Roberts paired with the Whelen would certainly be a good match up as would the 250 Savage. The model 70 classic left hand would be a fine platform.

An interesting pairing for close cover work for big game and bigger game might be the 30-30 and 45-70, both solid American performers and either teamed with a Marlin would serve well.

Were I back in the lower 48 with more opportunity to put a varmint rifle to work, my choice would more likely be the grand old 220 Swift and the gold standard of big game rounds, the 30-06. Once again the left handed Model 70 would be a good choice but I would not shy away from a pair of Remingtons so chambered.

I am no lover of the 338 but I do see the wisdom of the 264 and 338 magnums as a pairing. Those two cover a lot of ground.

Lots of interesting pairs to consider. How about a pair of Remington 14's in 25 and 35 Remington.

Mart

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Originally posted by Rae59:

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Originally posted by cobra:
First would be the .30-06 in a Remington 7600 which I already have in the synthetic model. Second would be the .375 Ruger and I'm still undecided as to the rifle.

Cobra, my apologies but I meant in a matching set of rifles..... more or less.
I'll fix my title.

OK. in that case I'll go with the 7mm-08 and the .338 Win. Mag. in a synthetic stainless Savage and I have them now.

I'd vote for .270 and .35 Whelen. In a pair of Win M70 supergrade rifles with Leupold scopes.

7mm and 375 RUM?

Hard pair to beat, unless you are a varmint hunter. Then, 6mm-06 and 338 Edge (338 on the FL RUM case).

Rich

.243 Win and .338 Win Mag

I am going to take a different approach. Since the parameters call for "American cartridges" AND "matching rifles" I am going to choose cartridges for lever actions. The traditional American rifle is the lever action.

I think that 30-30 and 45-70 would make a good pair but, because of cartridge dimensions, the rifles couldn't really be the same. One rifle would necessarily be larger than the other.

So, for an all "American" pair I would have custom Winchester 1895 rifles made in .270 Winchester and .405 Winchester.

Model 70's in 270 Win & 30-06.

Aaron

This is a tough one...

221Fireball and 30-06

240Wby and 340Wby

257Robts and 300 WinMag

22-250 and 338WinMag

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
.257 Roberts and .35 Whelen.

Actually, that sounds about right.
Was initially thinkin 270, cause I,ve got a couple hundred rounds built, but sold the rifle, and 416 Remington.That should pretty much cover the bases. In a pair of Winchester, Model 70.

I have already done this

I own a set of Kimber Classics
They are scoped alike with Vari-X III 2.5x10x40
Both in walnut but one has a red pad and the other is black
22 LR and 7-08

I'd go with the 260 Rem and 338 Win Mag. All bases covered!

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
.257 Roberts and .35 Whelen.

Mine would be close with the 257 Roberts and 350 Rem Mag.

I'd go with the original new offerings in M70, 264 "Westerner" and 338 "Alaskan". Can't imagine a classier pair. Of course the "African" in 458 would really round out a battery.

Winchester 70's in 300 H + H and .458 Wm. -- then ream it to .458 Lott.

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Originally posted by Mikelravy:
I'd go with the original new offerings in M70, 264 "Westerner" and 338 "Alaskan". Can't imagine a classier pair. Of course the "African" in 458 would really round out a battery.

+1
Could not agree more!!

Hard to beat a 270 with a 338-06 along side it.

280 Rem and a 340 Wby.

243 and 338WM in bolt guns.

223 and 338 Fed in an AR combo.

308 Win in a bolt gun and 45-70 in a Marlin 1895.

25-06 and 458 Win Mag?

Neither are near my favorite calibers but they could be done on the same rifle with different bolt faces and would allow you to hunt anything.

.284 Brenneke and .370 Bock

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
.257 Roberts and .35 Whelen.

I could do that.
Paul B.

.308 Winchester and .416 Remington in closely matched Winchester M70 rifles.

Then go hunting.

30-06 & 416 Rigby (since Rigby is now an American company )

I'm tempted to say two .30-06s, one to use and the other in case I broke the "user" somehow.

But, I know that isn't what you meant.

So, I think I'd choose either a.260 Remington and a .338-'06, or

a .250 Savage and a .30-06.

Either pair would work just fine for me. Even with the smaller pair there's no animal in America I wouldn't tackle with a heavy-bullet .30-06 handload.

Any American-made bolt gun brand would work fine for either pair. And so would a pair of Ruger No.1s.

.30-06 and .458 Lott? .22 hornet if I could add a third.

7mm Rem. Mag and 338 RCM

I would put them in the same stock, same scope etc. The only difference would be the barrel length.

The 7mm I would choose 23" for longer range mule deer and antelope.

The 338 RCM would wear a 20.5" barrel for elk and moose brush.

My first thought was being that he wants a M70 257 Bob and the 35 Whelen is a superb combo. I love the 250-300 Savage for being older and truly American in case parentage and the original designer but the Bob is longer and better suited.
I am with Grenadier on the truly American 30-30 and 45-70 in lever guns. Lets not forget the 256 and 35 Newton for quite the pair of classic American carts that deserve their place in history even though not factory carts. the 256 with its 6.5mm bullet is capable of moose and bear at long range and the 35 Newton can be quite the crusher out to 400 yards. I do love the Newtons. Use 06 cases to form the 256 and 375 Ruger cases to form the Newton. Yes I know there is controversy over casehead dimensions on the 35 Newton but I have an origional case that measures .5285" and the Ruger brass measures .529"

Remington 700AWR or 700 "Sendero" style rifle in 30-06 and 338Win Mag.

The 30-06 WILL do any job in need the 338Mag
is useful if you go out "looking for trouble"
with anything in North America that can kick, scratch or bite.

AD

Remington 40x in 22LR and 30-06.

He wants Winchester M70's

285 OKH and 400 Whelan or 333 OKH, but I would use the .338 bullets instead of the .333 bullets.