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Some very experienced hunters used a 7mm Rem Mag and a 375 H&H to hunt game animals the whole world over. I would think that would work here too. My favorite would be with a 270 or a 7mm and a 416 RM in Model 70. | |||
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Just dreaming, but how about a 264 WSM and a 35 WSM? (I know, they are both wildcats and not production cartridges but then again neither are some of the other choices mentioned here) The WSM line is also about as American as you can get and the .264 (6.5) and .35 calibers are deffinately mentioned alot here on AR. I was skimming some threads and read that one of our AR members took a 6.5 (264) WSM to Africa and it performed quite well. A 35 WSM should out do the 35 Whelen. Would have them both in M-70 Featherweights short action CRF rifles with 24" barrels. Oh well, like I said, just dreaming. But then again.... maybe not. "The right to bear arms" insures your right to freedom, free speech, religion, your choice of doctors, etc. ....etc. ....etc.... -----------------------------------one trillion seconds = 31,709 years------------------- | |||
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After shifting around a bit, the two American calibers that resides in my gun safe that will qualify, is the 308 Winchester and the 35 Whelen. The first one in a Kimber Montana, the second in a Ruger M77 MKII. Pretty much American I would say  Keeping them company in the safe is also a Ruger Hawkeye in 375 Ruger, a Red Lable in 20 guage, a M77/22 in 22LR, an High Standard Victor in 22 LR among other "go bang" stuff.... Guess my mariner days cruising the East and West coast of the US, reading to much Guns and Ammo and Elmer Keith are to blame  Arild Iversen. | |||
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I am a big fan of 1903 Springfield sporters. I have 4, all still 30-06. I plan a pair in .270 and 35 Whelen. Classic American rifle in classic American chambering. Jason | |||
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A WORD Of CAUTION ! ! ! Having spent many many hours in my friends gun shop over the last 14 years I have first hand knoledge of two instances and nearly desasterous accidents involving "matched" pairs of rifles. The first one and the most sobering was when two brothers showed up having just inherited money from their father's estate and wanting to honor him by each having matching guns there were their father's favotite hunting rifle. So two Winchester Mdl 70's in 270 were ordered. They had them blue-printed, triggers done, glass bedded, Leupold scopes mounted and they turned out very nice. Then a few months later on the first day of hunting season one of the guys shows up and he is madder that I have ever seen anyone, ever. He had just about blown his brother's head off while loading their guns that morning. The concussion was so close that it blew the hat off of his brother. He was ready to have the shop owner arrested. It took a while before we could get him simmered down enough to tell us what happened. Accusations went back and forth but after about 45 minutes the real issue stuck up it's ugly head. That is... Before the opening of hunting season they had been to the range and checked the zero's on the guns than they had a cleaning session on the dining room table and somewhere along the way the bolts got crossed. On one of the guns the trigger was fine you never would have known it had the wrong bolt but on the other gun just closing the bolt and slapping the stock w/ four fingers dropped the sear. The second accident was much simpler but could have been just as dangerous if not worse. It involved two matching Howa rifles for a father and son. The dad's was a 300 Win Mag and the son's a 7mm Rem mag. They were pretty much the same story . The customer brought in the guns, wanted them snad blasted and blued, salt & pepper laminated stocke were ordered and the barreled actions glass bedded into the new stocks. They turned out beautiful. Then the day after delivery the father calls up the shop owner and has a concern that when he shoots his son's 7mm mag the necks get blown off the cases and the shells that are ejected from the acton don't have any necks on them. Once again the accusations flew,. So the shop owner told the guy to bring in the gun and the brass for examination. This time it diodn't take 15 seconds to figure out the problem. You see the dad was shooting his son's 7mm mag ammo in his 300 Win Mag. So my thought on having matched pairs or hunting rifles is that if you do have a matched pair of rifles you need to take extra precautions that something very simple doesn't ruin you day and/or life. Leave the matched pairs to dueling pistols in collections. Joe | |||
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I have no imagination. I did an 06AI and a 308 on my only matched pair. Nesika short and long actions in matching MCMs. If I had it to do over I would probably go to 243AI and 06AI...yea I know you dont have to AI everything, but heck I like em. | |||
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SXSboy, The post was intended for a matching pair of (American) cartridge chambered rifles belonging to a single owner. Not a matching pair of humans (?) with similiar rifles.  "The right to bear arms" insures your right to freedom, free speech, religion, your choice of doctors, etc. ....etc. ....etc.... -----------------------------------one trillion seconds = 31,709 years------------------- | |||
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I would just like to comment that the two accident stories are simply due to what is sometimes called "operator error." In the first incident, it's part of simple gun safety to be sure that your trigger is safe. Had they taken both guns by the barrels, closed the bolt on them unloaded, and dropped them butt-first from about a foot or so, the one with the fine trigger would almost certainly have gone off, and they would have been alerted that something was up. In the second case, it is quite simply inexcusable irresponsibility not to ensure that your ammo matches your gun.
Come to think of it, neither accident would have needed matched rifles to occur anyway. Plus, the "extra precautions," which would have provided safety in the stories above, would have been very simple, such as taking the bolts out one gun at a time. I'm not saying everyone should have matched guns, but I look at it this way: If you're too poorly informed, lazy, busy, or whatever else you may be, to take the time to handle your guns in a safe, responsible way, you simply shouldn't be handling guns at all. Oh, and for a matched pair, if I could, I think I'd go for a 7mm-08 and 375 Ruger, in Ruger rifles. | |||
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6.5-06 and 375Ruger would be my choice and I already have them, but not as a matching pair. The 6.5-06 is on a Winchester M70 action and the 375Ruger is a Ruger Alaskan. If I was to make a matching pair, I would build them both on M70 actions. | |||
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Ought six and the 338 winny,I can't think of anymore American cartridges (besides the 223).I'm working on getting the stock on the 338wm duped for a matching 30-06 barrelled action. Both pushing 40 years old and still unfired.  | |||
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1st choice: Mod 94 30-30 and M70 30-06 Featherweight 2nd choice: M70 30-06 Featherweight and a M700 Mountain Rifle in 30-06 in case the M70 breaks. | |||
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I already have the first: .270 in 700 Ti Now I need the same in .300 Win mag Cats have nine lives. Which makes them ideal for experimentation... | |||
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If truly American then 30-06 and the recent development 416 Ruger for hunting all over the world. | |||
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This....6.5 and .350....  Although now I would probably do a matched pair of Model 7KSs... a .350 RM and either a .308 or .250 Savage... I already have the .350 RM...and one of my good friends has promised me first dibs on his .250 that matches my rifle...  Bob ps..and yes, as the WARNING above stated...I did once fire a 6.5 in the .350 Model 600... From that time on only one box of ammo on the table at a time... | |||
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After digging through the safe I would say a 264 Win Mag and a 458 Win Mag!!!  | |||
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300 Weatherby and 416 Remington in Winchester Model 70s. Super Grade stock on the "B" and Custom Shop stock on the 416. 26/24 inch barrels, matte blue, Talley mounts and Swarovski scopes. Second place would be a 338 instead of the 300. | |||
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Pre 64 Win. Featherweight 270 Win and a Ruger African in 375 Ruger Straight shootin to ya | |||
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Joe There is no amount accounting for the idiots of the world is there? | |||
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I could live happily with that combo. Not much of a WBY fan, but I do like the 257 and 340!  **************** NRA Life Benefactor Member | |||
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BLR in .223 WSM & .325 WSM | |||
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I like lever actions! 94/336 action....25-35 and .38-55. Winchester 1895...30-40 and .35 Winchester, or .405. Winchester 1886...33 Winchester and .45-90. Maybe the .50-110. BLR/Savage 99...260 Remington and .358 Winchester or strictly BLR the .270 WSM and .325 WSM. Bolt action...6.5-06 and .35 Whelen. Single shot...270 Weatherby and .416 Weatherby. "Be kind and polite to everyone you meet. But have a plan on how to kill them." From an old Marine. | |||
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260 remington 338 win. mag. | |||
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SWEET!!! Austin Powers cool factor. I bet there is not another similar matched pair extant. Smashing!!  I've got a Model 7 .260 and now I thinks I need a match in .350 RM. If you are going to carry a big stick, you've got to whack someone with it at least every once in while. | |||
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an idea i'm considering is a matching pair of rem 600/660's in 6.5 rem mag and 350 rem mag. blaming guns for crime is like blaming silverware for rosie o'donnell being fat | |||
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25-06 338-06 And I have them in Savage 111 | |||
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That would be COOL! "The right to bear arms" insures your right to freedom, free speech, religion, your choice of doctors, etc. ....etc. ....etc.... -----------------------------------one trillion seconds = 31,709 years------------------- | |||
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You didn't say what or where you were going to hunt. Assume no Short or Ultra Mags. Everything except Lion, Buff, Elephant, Hippo 1. 270 Win & 338 Win Mag 2. 264 Win Mag & 338 Win Mag 3. 270 Weatherby & 340 Weatherby 4. 280 Rem & 8mm Rem Mag Everything 1. 300 Win Mag & 458 Win Mag 2. 7mm Rem & 416 Rem Mag 3. 270 Weatherby & 375 Weatherby (since I couldn't use a 375 H&H!) Now, if you really wanted to be flexible and not use just American cartridges 1. 270 win & 375 H&H 2. 30-06 & 375 H&H "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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You could get that job done with 1. 270 Win and 375 Ruger. And you're still USA. Not too different from your first choice either, 270Win+338WM. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Sad to say but they are not American, 7mm Mauser and .375 H&H Magnum? .243 Win and .338 Win Mag? YES | |||
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