the deer/elk class cart thread is a good one but how about you RANK them in order of of most likely to kill with it of the guns you used to take game with??? In other words your hunting buddy shows up and says come on...here is a tag, lets go! of the battery what CART would you chose not GUN...some have unliked carts but in great guns but if all the guns were identical...

Seems Bartsche would go for a 8x57

so of those in the gun safe/rack/behind the door that you have used...

how would you rank them in order of i'd rather hunt with this cart over this one ect.

Thanks for playing

For me it's the way I have the rifles set up to accomplish a specific task........but this is the way I grab 'em if was to run outa the house today for Deer/Elk sized animals.

1. 9.3x62
2. .375H&H
3. .30/06 Sprg.

The .375H&H is going with me tomorrow 'cause the 9.3's stock is getting a new coat of paint.

280AI/160 gr. Nosler AB should take care of both well.

for deer/elk
.300 WinMag
.45-70 Govt
.308 Win
7x57 Mauser
6.5x55 Swede

for deer only
6.5x55 Swede
7x57 Mauser
.308 Win
.30-30 Win
.30-06
.35 Rem
.44 Mag
12 ga
(too many more to list that I've taken at least one deer with)

for elk only
.300 WinMag
.338 WinMag
.45/70 Govt
.308 Win

Namibiahunter

Easy ...my "grab gun" is a 350RemMag in a Ruger S/S.
Cheers...
Con

The 35 Whelen, considering I might be shooting either an elk or a deer.

Next would the the 30-06. Old reliable!!

Deer only - 7x57 hands down.
Chance of deer/elk/moose:
7x57 or 30/06 if heavy cover, close in.
375 H&H if open country with long ranging shots. My old Sako is a very, very accurate piece with good glass.

257 wby,270 WIN,7mm Mag, 300 win, 300 RUM,& my 338 Rum. I figure Thats enought

7X57
.300H&H
.270 Win

Terry

For elk and deer 338 win mag.If its open territory I would use my 338-378 for elk.I have shot 95 deer with my good old 338 win mag Ruger model 77.

If I were to rank mine my list gets much shorter.

1-.270 Win I have killed the most deer and elk with it.
2-.50 Cal BP has killed the more deer than my .270 Win.
3-.30-06 Killed my first elk with this cartridge with a borrowed rifle, then bought my .270.
4-.338-06 I haven't killed anything with it yet but I'll keep trying.

7x57R
308

Elk:
30/378 Weatherby 180gr Accubonds
300 Winchester Mag 165gr Accubonds

Deer:
257 Weatherby 110gr Accubonds
25-06 100gr TSX
308 Winchester 165gr Accubonds

338 win mag. Nothing else in my battery inspires the same confidence.

I tend to choose based on which area I'm headed to. On the flatlands chances are good I'll have a 30-06, but I've been known to use the 7m/m Rem too. In the hills it's a toss up. When deer hunting only I'll probably have my trusty -06 or 257, but when elk are in the equation I will definitely take my 338 for a ride(altho the 348 has gone with a few times too.)
Here's the fun part. When filling doe tags my buddies and I use our vintage military rifles. Nothing like baggin' Bambie's mom with an 03A3 or 6.5X55 or 7X57 or 8X57 -well you get the picture.

30-06 or 270 win. either are great for both animals mentioned.

338-06
30-338
30-06

Well ranking is one way of looking at it . It depends on Where I'm off to Hunt .

For me going on a Hunt without one of my 7 MM's is well kind of like leaving something behind like a foot or arm !. My Mauser 3000 L has been with me since 1963 !.

7 MM RM or 6.5 X 55
30/06 or .308
.338 30/378

Shoot Straight Know Your Target . ...

For Elk --

1. Tie .338 Win Mag/ 9,3x74R
3. .270 Win
4. .375 H&H

But the last elk I shot met his demise from a .50 muzzleloader.....

280 rem
300 wby
340 wby
375 h&h
378 wby
460 wby

not necessarialy in that order, sometimes it depends on the neighborhood i will be visiting.

338-378 Weatherby
30-06

Ken....

Since deer/elk was stated in the first thread.
1. 338-06
2. 270 Win
3. 348 Win
4. 9.3x64 last because it is currently being built.

When I was young, dumb, happy ( also broke) living in Grand Junction, the choices would have been easy: a 30-06 or a 30-06. Everything else I had ( which wasn't much) was probably a little too puny.

If it were a short notice and around a two day EZ hunt I,d probably carry the .358 X .404 IMP with 250 gr. psp cup & core bullets at over 3100 fps. .

If it were like in days of old ,longer duration , on horse, some open country and an abundance of timber I,d most lickly op for one of the 8mm X 57s in a scout configuration for fast handling.

Unhappily I probably will never have to make that choice again. I shoot 10 times more now but nothing ever bleeds. except a 125 pound halibut a 8mm-06 of mine dispatched prior to bringing him or her into the boat.
But than having a lot of choices and being a little fickle at times---well I really can't say.

My last choice would be the .308, second last 6.5 X 55 and 3rd last ( maybe) one of the 7 X 57 scouts.roger

1. 338 Win
2. 35 Whelen
3. 30-06
4. 45-70
5. 7mm Rem

Depending on which species and hunting conditions/terrain:

270 WSM
338 Rem Ultra Mag
375 H&H

1. 9.3x62
2. 300 wby

7MM Remington Magnum
.338 Winchester Maganum

More open country, the 7MM, brushy country, .338. But I've only hunted Idaho, Utah, and Nevada for elk.

1- 9.3X62 because it hasn't been hunting yet
2- 30'06
3- .303 British
4- .308 Win
5- 7.5X55 Swiss

well elk is clearly my 308 norma deer i like my norma then 308 win 444 marlin it depends on range ant the 300 savage which i actualy use more often then others

Elk from first to last. ----- .358 STA, .338 Lapua, .340 Wby, .300 Winny, 7mm STW, .270 WSM, 30-30 Win. Deer from first to last ----- .300 Winny, 7mm STW, .270 WSM, 257 Wby, 25 WSSM, 30-30 Win, .243 WSSM. Good shooting.

I recently sold off a number of my rifles to get down to 3 main big game getters:

ELK:
338WM
338Fed
7mm-08

DEER:
7mm-08
338Fed
338WM

BLACK BEAR:
338Fed
7mm-08
338WM

RH

ELK: 35 Whelen
8X57
270 win
30/30

Deer: 270 win
8X57
35 Whelen
30/30

Hogs: 8X57
30/30
35 Whelen
270 win
If I ever get a stock for that 30/06 it'll be in the mix too. If I had to pick one over all: 35 Whelen

Elk: 35 Whelen, 7 Mag., 7-08

Deer: 257 R., 7.62x39, 7-08, 7Mag., 35 Whelen

Deer;
308 winchester
30-06
45/70

Elk;
338wm
35 whelen
375 H+H

Black bear;
50 alaskan
338wm
300 H+H

The 308 first followed by my Win 338.

Hey This is a Deer Cartridge issue!!!!!!!!!!

6,5x54mm
6.5x55mm
6.5x57mm
.257 Roberts
7x57mm
7mm-08

Do I have to go on? All of these medium, cartridges are perfect for deer.

Next step up?
.30-06
.308
.270 WCF


even the hoary .45-70 and .38-55WCF
but gee the question was "Deer cartridges!"

LLS

Elk

300 win mag - A caliber that has always lived up to and exceeded in most cases the velocities and ballistics I expect of it. 200 gr Accubond at 2950 fps
338 win mag - A hard hitter but I have had a hard time getting the velocity expected. 210 gr TSX at 2925 fps or 225 gr Accubond at 2800 fps
280AI - Very accurate and will shoot with the 7 mag with less powder and recoil. 160 gr Accubond at 3025 fps
30-06 - Very accurate and I love what the 200 gr Accubond at 2700 fps does. Just aim higher or get a reticle to match.

Deer
280AI - Flat shooter and just right with the 160 Accubond
30-06 - 200 gr Accubond and eat right up to the hole
300 win mag - Can't kill 'em too dead.

WA state.
Deer westside .348 Win. or 9.3x57
Deer eastside .25WSSM
Elk westside .348 Win. or 9.3x57
Elk eastside .270 WSM

Combo deer & elk rifle.
7mmSTW
.338 win.
30,06
35 Whelen
45/70
.308
.270
7X57
6.5X57
.257 R AI
25,06
.257 R

in no preferred order
500, 470, 458, 416 AR .. which ever i happen to have loaded ammo for, that's not in load dev mode

then 376 steyr (haven't gotten around to building a ruger yet)
then one of my 358 winchesters

then
300 win

then back to 416 AR, with light bullets loaded fast....

and if it's just shooting goats, my wife's 708

and if mostly kicking, close range... a handirifle in 45/70!
jeffe