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If you had these two calibers and they shoot equally well which would you keep and why?


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Posts: 7624 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 05 February 2008Reply With Quote
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You keep them both.

No reason to get rid of a good rifle.
 
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Given modern bullets that put the .270 clearly in the "elk hunting" category, it's an easy one for me.....the .270 is the better cartridge.....and does it with factory loads.....

In the USA, all decent loads for the 7 X 57 are handloaded.....most factory loads are quite mild!


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If you don't handload, keep the 270.

If you handload, and have a rifle with a strong action, keep the one you like the best.

But, I agree with Antelope Sniper.
 
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I am a handloader, so for real world practicality, I see them as pretty interchangeable...
 
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.007 .. that's about the difference of ONE sheet of paper, wrapped ONCE around a .277 bullet...

zero difference, if you reload...

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You keep them both.

No reason to get rid of a good rifle.


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If you like them both the same you could put them both for sale and keep the one that doesent sell first. You may get your money faster that way than only putting one for sale.
 
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Or sell the one you can pull the most cash for.
 
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I have both.I got the 270 first and years later I built a 7x57.I have not used the 270 in 6 or 7 years after building the 7x57.
That said I will not be getting rid of either any time soon,they both work.
 
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Have both but the 7X57 comes first in my book.
 
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Keep the 7x57 and enjoy the shooting. The too small bullet in the 270 makes killing anything a debatable issue. dancing

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[QUOTE]The too small bullet in the 270 makes killing anything a debatable issue. /QUOTE]

I can hear Jack O'Connor cursing from the grave!!!
 
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Keep the 7x57 and enjoy the shooting. The too small bullet in the 270 makes killing anything a debatable issue. dancing

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I am a handloader, so for real world practicality, I see them as pretty interchangeable...

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7x57!! Much better bullet selection and it's very close to being a 7-08. Big Grin


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The reason I would choose one over the other has nothing to do with cartridge performance (not much difference). Everyone and their dog owns a 270 Win including me. I like the historical romance (Hunting not war, although it was pretty good at war in it’s time) of the 7 x 57mm (AKA 275 Rigby and 7mm Mauser). I like my rifle to be a little unique from time to time.
 
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Everyone and their dog owns a 270 Win

My dog don't own one!


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Does he hunt?
 
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Does he hunt?

He's a Labrador....and yes...he hunts!


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I do like the 175 Hornady RN in my 7x57. Running at 2,550 fps and grouping around 3/4", well, I think it's the clear winner!


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Does he hunt?

He's a Labrador....and yes...he hunts!


Surely you have given him a shotgun! How’s his wing shooting?
 
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Does he hunt?

He's a Labrador....and yes...he hunts!


Likely more than you.
 
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What powder and load?

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I do like the 175 Hornady RN in my 7x57. Running at 2,550 fps and grouping around 3/4", well, I think it's the clear winner!


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Well, since the 7X57 can kill an elephant and the .270 is not adequate for elk, I think the choice is rather obvious, don't you?
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The 7-57 is just another round and similar to the 270 Win. However the 7-57 never caught on in the USA so its hard to find ammo if you don't handload.

The 7-57 does not fill a long action's magazine all the way.

For us real rifle aficionados we have to have both!

As for myself I don't care much about the 270 although I have a few. If a nice rifle is available the chambering is not critical.

Nor do I care about the 7-57 however I have a nice old rifle so chambered.
 
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I've had both...still have the 270, and always will. I liked the 7x57 just fine, but there was just too much overlap for me to want to keep both. So, the 7x57 went down the road.

My first true "big game" rifle was a 270, and Lord willing I will continue to have one in my gun cabinet as long as I'm alive...or at least until I'm too senile to care anymore. I just can't fathom not having a 270. dancing

But having said that, it'd be hard to go wrong with either one. About the only real advantage the 270 has in a modern rifle is the quality and quantity of multiple factory ammunition offerings from every major ammo manufacturer, as well as the ready availability of those same ammo offerings...beyond that, I don't really see much of a difference other than personal preference.


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The 7-57 does not fill a long action's magazine all the way.



You just aren't loading it right.




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It depends on a few things like the range you intend to shoot and what you will be hunting.

270 Win = 150gr bullets max (160gr partitions at a push and custom or old 180gr Barnes original if you ca nfind them and your rifle will stabilise them)
7x57 = 175gr bullets max

I prefer the 270 as it simply has more thump in my opinion. If hunting is short range and you can use the heavier bullets there are cases where the 7mm wins.

Anything longer than 200m its a 270 game in my opinion.

Bear in mind that some 7mm's dont shoot the 139/145gr well, but I'm sure you know your rifle.
 
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Both great cals but I have to vote for the 7x57.I dearly love mine.Besides bear in mind replacing a .270 leaves you with a gazillion choices.Not many chamber for the 7x57 these days.
 
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I have a 7x57 and never had a .270 (although I've shot with it). I will never ever ever have a .270 but I will always have a 7x57.

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I'd keep the rifle I liked better. The calibers are so close so I would go with the platform I liked best.



 
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Most reloading manuals don't list pressure, but Lyman Manuals do for some. The 7x57 for the most part operates on several thousand less pressure--which would be reduced blast and recoil. Mr .270 Jack O'Connor and his wife Eleanor was Mrs 7x57 .
 
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The reason I would choose one over the other has nothing to do with cartridge performance (not much difference). Everyone and their dog owns a 270 Win including me. I like the historical romance (Hunting not war, although it was pretty good at war in it’s time) of the 7 x 57mm (AKA 275 Rigby and 7mm Mauser). I like my rifle to be a little unique from time to time.


tu2

I like something differnet myself, sold off my .270Win, several 30/06's, and a .223.

Added 270WSM, 7x57, and 22 Hornet.
 
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I've enjoyed the responses. Thanks!! BTW, these are my wife's rifles and both are tang safety Ruger 77's.

We won't be selling either but the 270 is in very "used" shape with a stock cut to 12 1/2 LOP which fits my wife nicely. The 7 x 57 is in primo contition metal and stock.

My reason for the thread and opinions was we have been thinking of switching the stocks and going with the 7 x 57 as her primary rifle. We both like the "retro" nostagia of the 7 x 57, plus she may be shooting some bait in Zambia in the future.

Thanks again for the opinions.

Cheers
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You really have to strain at gnats to see any difference in these calibers IMHO
 
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Easy answer - the .270 Win. Hands down. Especially with the quality bullets available for handloading.
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For all practical purposes, except in one small regard, the 270 Winchester is the better cartridge as it can do anything the 7x57 can do at higher velocity.

Where the 7x57 wins is when bullet weights either get above 150 grains or with SOME Nosler Partition bullet styles.

I have a 270 Winchester and cannot find anything above 160 grains for it. As I live in Great Britain and am NEVER likely to see a moose nor an elk nor any bear that doesn't cause me concern.

But what I do note is that with the older "Combined Technologies" Nosler Partition in 150 grain weight there is a lot of case space taken up by the bullet.

So effectively any advantage of that extra 270 Winchester case length over the 7x57 becomes negated WITH THAT BULLET TYPE.

Ditto if I choose to use the Nosler partition in 160 grain in my 270 Winchester.

But as I don't use any weight above 150 grains in my 270 Winchester I don't really mind as am well stocked with Speer's now discontinued 150 grain .277" Hot Core bullet.

But if I wanted a heavier weight bullet that my 270 Winchester can handle...quite frankly I'd use my 280 Remington or my 8x60S Mauser.
 
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