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270 win vs. 7 x 57
21 September 2011, 21:06
Frostbit270 win vs. 7 x 57
If you had these two calibers and they shoot equally well which would you keep and why?
21 September 2011, 21:09
Antelope SniperYou keep them both.
No reason to get rid of a good rifle.
21 September 2011, 21:11
vapodogGiven modern bullets that put the .270 clearly in the "elk hunting" category, it's an easy one for me.....the .270 is the better cartridge.....and does it with factory loads.....
In the USA, all decent loads for the 7 X 57 are handloaded.....most factory loads are quite mild!
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21 September 2011, 21:34
k-22hornetIf you don't handload, keep the 270.
If you handload, and have a rifle with a strong action, keep the one you like the best.
But, I agree with Antelope Sniper.
21 September 2011, 21:57
seafire/B17GI am a handloader, so for real world practicality, I see them as pretty interchangeable...
21 September 2011, 22:18
jeffeosso.007 .. that's about the difference of ONE sheet of paper, wrapped ONCE around a .277 bullet...
zero difference, if you reload...
shot placement means bang-flop
21 September 2011, 22:20
thecanadianquote:
Originally posted by Antelope Sniper:
You keep them both.
No reason to get rid of a good rifle.
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21 September 2011, 22:28
wwjmbdIf you like them both the same you could put them both for sale and keep the one that doesent sell first. You may get your money faster that way than only putting one for sale.
21 September 2011, 22:30
wwjmbdOr sell the one you can pull the most cash for.
21 September 2011, 22:35
plainsman456I have both.I got the 270 first and years later I built a 7x57.I have not used the 270 in 6 or 7 years after building the 7x57.
That said I will not be getting rid of either any time soon,they both work.
22 September 2011, 00:24
Heavy BarrelHave both but the 7X57 comes first in my book.
22 September 2011, 02:08
Von GruffKeep the 7x57 and enjoy the shooting. The too small bullet in the 270 makes killing anything a debatable issue.
Von Gruff.
22 September 2011, 02:17
Biebs[QUOTE]The too small bullet in the 270 makes killing anything a debatable issue. /QUOTE]
I can hear Jack O'Connor cursing from the grave!!!
22 September 2011, 03:37
Deweyquote:
Originally posted by Von Gruff:
Keep the 7x57 and enjoy the shooting. The too small bullet in the 270 makes killing anything a debatable issue.
Von Gruff.
I HOWLED with laughter when I read that, another good one from our Kiwi friend!
22 September 2011, 04:03
bartschequote:
Originally posted by seafire/B17G:
I am a handloader, so for real world practicality, I see them as pretty interchangeable...
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22 September 2011, 05:31
wasbeeman7x57!! Much better bullet selection and it's very close to being a 7-08.
Aim for the exit hole
22 September 2011, 06:04
MickinColoThe reason I would choose one over the other has nothing to do with cartridge performance (not much difference). Everyone and their dog owns a 270 Win including me. I like the historical romance (Hunting not war, although it was pretty good at war in it’s time) of the 7 x 57mm (AKA 275 Rigby and 7mm Mauser). I like my rifle to be a little unique from time to time.
22 September 2011, 06:10
vapodogquote:
Everyone and their dog owns a 270 Win
My dog don't own one!
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22 September 2011, 06:12
MickinColoDoes he hunt?
22 September 2011, 06:18
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by MickinColo:
Does he hunt?
He's a Labrador....and yes...he hunts!
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22 September 2011, 06:22
rnoviI do like the 175 Hornady RN in my 7x57. Running at 2,550 fps and grouping around 3/4", well, I think it's the clear winner!
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22 September 2011, 06:36
MickinColoquote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
quote:
Originally posted by MickinColo:
Does he hunt?
He's a Labrador....and yes...he hunts!
Surely you have given him a shotgun! How’s his wing shooting?
22 September 2011, 07:04
Chuck Nelsonquote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
quote:
Originally posted by MickinColo:
Does he hunt?
He's a Labrador....and yes...he hunts!
Likely more than you.
22 September 2011, 07:24
FrostbitWhat powder and load?
quote:
Originally posted by rnovi:
I do like the 175 Hornady RN in my 7x57. Running at 2,550 fps and grouping around 3/4", well, I think it's the clear winner!
22 September 2011, 07:30
DuckearWell, since the 7X57 can kill an elephant and the .270 is not adequate for elk, I think the choice is rather obvious, don't you?
7X57
Never been a big fan of the .270. In fact, having mine rebarreled to a .280.
Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps.
22 September 2011, 07:32
vapodogquote:
Ignored post by Chuck Nelson posted 22 September 2011 06:04
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22 September 2011, 07:38
Conservative RiflemanThe 7-57 is just another round and similar to the 270 Win. However the 7-57 never caught on in the USA so its hard to find ammo if you don't handload.
The 7-57 does not fill a long action's magazine all the way.
For us real rifle aficionados we have to have both!
As for myself I don't care much about the 270 although I have a few. If a nice rifle is available the chambering is not critical.
Nor do I care about the 7-57 however I have a nice old rifle so chambered.
22 September 2011, 07:46
jdunlapmoI've had both...still have the 270, and always will. I liked the 7x57 just fine, but there was just too much overlap for me to want to keep both. So, the 7x57 went down the road.
My first true "big game" rifle was a 270, and Lord willing I will continue to have one in my gun cabinet as long as I'm alive...or at least until I'm too senile to care anymore. I just can't fathom
not having a 270.
But having said that, it'd be hard to go wrong with either one. About the only real advantage the 270 has in a modern rifle is the quality and quantity of multiple factory ammunition offerings from every major ammo manufacturer, as well as the ready availability of those same ammo offerings...beyond that, I don't really see much of a difference other than personal preference.
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22 September 2011, 09:21
z1rquote:
Originally posted by Conservative Rifleman:
The 7-57 does not fill a long action's magazine all the way.
You just aren't loading it right.
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22 September 2011, 16:00
ARWLIt depends on a few things like the range you intend to shoot and what you will be hunting.
270 Win = 150gr bullets max (160gr partitions at a push and custom or old 180gr Barnes original if you ca nfind them and your rifle will stabilise them)
7x57 = 175gr bullets max
I prefer the 270 as it simply has more thump in my opinion. If hunting is short range and you can use the heavier bullets there are cases where the 7mm wins.
Anything longer than 200m its a 270 game in my opinion.
Bear in mind that some 7mm's dont shoot the 139/145gr well, but I'm sure you know your rifle.
22 September 2011, 18:27
Bernie P.Both great cals but I have to vote for the 7x57.I dearly love mine.Besides bear in mind replacing a .270 leaves you with a gazillion choices.Not many chamber for the 7x57 these days.
22 September 2011, 18:59
FinmanI have a 7x57 and never had a .270 (although I've shot with it). I will never ever ever have a .270 but I will always have a 7x57.
Finman
better have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it....
22 September 2011, 19:06
scottfromdallasI'd keep the rifle I liked better. The calibers are so close so I would go with the platform I liked best.
22 September 2011, 21:28
carpetman1Most reloading manuals don't list pressure, but Lyman Manuals do for some. The 7x57 for the most part operates on several thousand less pressure--which would be reduced blast and recoil. Mr .270 Jack O'Connor and his wife Eleanor was Mrs 7x57 .
22 September 2011, 21:42
Greg Kquote:
Originally posted by MickinColo:
The reason I would choose one over the other has nothing to do with cartridge performance (not much difference). Everyone and their dog owns a 270 Win including me. I like the historical romance (Hunting not war, although it was pretty good at war in it’s time) of the 7 x 57mm (AKA 275 Rigby and 7mm Mauser). I like my rifle to be a little unique from time to time.
I like something differnet myself, sold off my .270Win, several 30/06's, and a .223.
Added 270WSM, 7x57, and 22 Hornet.
22 September 2011, 22:31
FrostbitI've enjoyed the responses. Thanks!! BTW, these are my wife's rifles and both are tang safety Ruger 77's.
We won't be selling either but the 270 is in very "used" shape with a stock cut to 12 1/2 LOP which fits my wife nicely. The 7 x 57 is in primo contition metal and stock.
My reason for the thread and opinions was we have been thinking of switching the stocks and going with the 7 x 57 as her primary rifle. We both like the "retro" nostagia of the 7 x 57, plus she may be shooting some bait in Zambia in the future.
Thanks again for the opinions.
Cheers
Jim
22 September 2011, 22:38
MikelravyYou really have to strain at gnats to see any difference in these calibers IMHO
22 September 2011, 23:12
Bear in FairbanksEasy answer - the .270 Win. Hands down. Especially with the quality bullets available for handloading.
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22 September 2011, 23:54
enfieldsparesFor all practical purposes, except in one small regard, the 270 Winchester is the better cartridge as it can do anything the 7x57 can do at higher velocity.
Where the 7x57 wins is when bullet weights either get above 150 grains or with SOME Nosler Partition bullet styles.
I have a 270 Winchester and cannot find anything above 160 grains for it. As I live in Great Britain and am NEVER likely to see a moose nor an elk nor any bear that doesn't cause me concern.
But what I do note is that with the older "Combined Technologies" Nosler Partition in 150 grain weight there is a lot of case space taken up by the bullet.
So effectively any advantage of that extra 270 Winchester case length over the 7x57 becomes negated WITH THAT BULLET TYPE.
Ditto if I choose to use the Nosler partition in 160 grain in my 270 Winchester.
But as I don't use any weight above 150 grains in my 270 Winchester I don't really mind as am well stocked with Speer's now discontinued 150 grain .277" Hot Core bullet.
But if I wanted a heavier weight bullet that my 270 Winchester can handle...quite frankly I'd use my 280 Remington or my 8x60S Mauser.
23 September 2011, 00:08
Chuck Nelsonquote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
quote:
Ignored post by Chuck Nelson posted 22 September 2011 06:04
Glad you pointed that out.