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Originally posted by Bear in Fairbanks:
Easy answer - the .270 Win. Hands down. Especially with the quality bullets available for handloading.
Bear in Fairbanks

Do they not make quality .284 bullets too?

I like both but prefer the 7X57.

Terry

A man who prefers a 270 over a 7x57 aint got no sole And will probably go to the fires of hell

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Originally posted by oldun:
A man who prefers a 270 over a 7x57 aint got no sole And will probably go to the fires of hell

Didn't Dante write about this?

Yes indeed. Very close to the innermost circle.

Jerry

Jack O'Conner made the 270 famous.
his wife used a 7x57.

Go figure-

SSR

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Originally posted by carpetman1:
Mr .270 Jack O'Connor and his wife Eleanor was Mrs 7x57 .

I'll bet they agreed to disagree!

Alan

I don't recall Dante mentioning either the 270 or the 7x57

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Originally posted by oldun:
A man who prefers a 270 over a 7x57 aint got no sole And will probably go to the fires of hell

And he will go barefooted!

g

I own neither but I would buy a .270 over the 7x57 if that counts for anything.

If a heavy bullet at 2500 ish is what you want, you don't need a 270. If you want to have a more powerful cartridge, 270 it!

Comparing the cartridges is probably pretty easy

Nostalgia is an opinion, so only what you like matters....I am old enough and young enough to feel like the 270 has plenty of 'nostalgia'...I grew up thinking of it as the quintessential 'western' cartridge. Now that I'm grown up, I know that was right!

ps--I have a 7x57--but I received it as a gift--I let my friends who don't like recoil shoot it, loaded to a mere 2600 with 150 grain bullets

Yes, Jack liked the .270 but he never bad mouthed the 7x57. IIRC, he spoke quite highly of the round.
When I did my antelpe hunt in 2009, I took a Winchester M70 Featherweight in 7x57 and an M70 in .270. It just happened that I grabbed the .270 the first day and that was the one that took my "goat" 15 minutes after legal light on opening day. The shot was such that I could have just as easily used a 30-30 carbine shooting my cast bullets loads to thake that goat. After a short stalk, the shot was right at 75 yards. I'm almost sorry the 7x57 stayed back at the motel. Oh well, next time.
Paul B.

O'Conner wrote a very nice article for The Gun Digest about the 7x57 and a 1972 safari he took with his wife on which they exclusively used the 7x57 for plains game. The take included Greater Kudu and Zebra. All but one animal required only one shot. GD 28; Forty Years with the Little 7mm. If the .270 hadn't come along I suspect the little Mauser would have been his favorite.

Jerry Liles

My experience my be oddball but the .270's have been far easier to handload with great results. The 2 7x57's ? I have had to really be patient to find a load that tacks. Still haven't gotten my latest project to shoot at all.

I wouldnt mind a 270 in either a pre 64 model 70 or an 03 Springfield, but being the Mauser nut that I am, I prefer the 7X57. Does the same thing with less muzzleblast.

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Originally posted by Frostbit:
270 Win vs. 7x57
If you had these two calibers and they shoot equally well which would you keep and why?

I can't part with either one!!!

1941 270:


1895 7x57:

To simplify the question, the .270 holds more powder and it can shoot the same weigh bullets. I used to shoot the 170 gr. Speer and 180 Barnes soft for something different, but normally shoots the 130 and 150s. The .270 is simply more powerfull caliber than the 7x57..

The 7x57 is one of my all time favorite light rifles and probably the lightest rifle that I would shoot an elephant with if need be..I love the .270 and used it a lot in my youth, and for most folks its hands down one of the the better choicea, but I would opt for the 7x57 for myself, less recoil and it kills well enough to suit me...

With the advent of premium quality bullets being produced today by many, performance difference is nill. Use the rifle to fill a nitch. If I really wanted to boost power and increase bullet eight I'd jump up a noticable notch to the .30 cal. I personally love the .270
it does everything you ask of it and I use 130 grain tsx exclusivelly. If need be I can go into any walmart and get ammo for less than $20 a box. Not so with the 7x57. I know there is a lot of sporterized 7x57's out there from original military issue that had major accuracy problems due to long throats and rifling twist that was set to heavy grain bullets. It is not an issue with properly built rifles. They are both classic calibers that simply perform.

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Originally posted by gunsrgood:
My experience my be oddball but the .270's have been far easier to handload with great results. The 2 7x57's ? I have had to really be patient to find a load that tacks. Still haven't gotten my latest project to shoot at all.

I was rereading these threads for some reason or another and noticed your comment. Dunno if this will be of much help but I've gotten my best results from three 7x57 rifles with W760 powder. The 140 r. Ballistic tips do .75" 0n average from my M70 Featherweight The 175 gr. Hornady RN stays within an inch, not problem. My custom 7x57 on an FN action shoots anywhere from .50" to .80 inch depending on the load and my Ruger #1A is one inch with the 140 gr. Ballistic Tips and shoots just under a quarter with the 175 gr. Hornady RN Sierra Pro-Hunters and Game-Kings all shoot with the .50 to one inch range. It didn't take a lot of work getting those loads. I do agree it's a lot easier fiding a good load for the .270 but at least with my 7x57s it hasn't been a problem.
Paul B.

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Originally posted by wasbeeman:
7x57!! Much better bullet selection and it's very close to being a 7-08.

It is close!!!
I can retard my 7x57 down a bit and there you go made a 7mm-08

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Originally posted by oldun:
I don't recall Dante mentioning either the 270 or the 7x57

Yes, Dante did contemplate those two cartridges in his Divine Comedy; however, the 270 was discussed in the last of the three canticas, "Paradiso," not "Inferno," while the 7x57 was discussed in "Purgatorio."