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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...CU0&feature=youtu.be

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-American.htm

Von Gruff.

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Originally posted by Von Gruff:
No comment.

No sights.

So its a cross between a Browning x-bolt and a Savage axis? If thats the case I'll stick with Browning.

put that mag on the 308 scout ...
not my favorite

That is one ugly ass rifle. I guess that's what they think Americans want. They should have stayed out of the bargain basement rifle offerings.

I like the Tang safety but other than that it is one fugly rifle

looks more like a tika t3 and savage love child. I'll wait to pass judgement until I see one in person but not impressed.

I guess I'll just have to buy one unless the barrel can't be changed. roger

For me it would be a good bad weather rifle.

it has a great remembrance to a POS

I bet it will be their #1 selling bolt rifle in short time givin the current economy and the probability of a retail price of below $400

Not my taste but I'm not everyone for sure

I like what I see so far, but I'd have to handle one to make an informed buying decision. Looks don't bother me, rifles are tools to me, not pieces of art. I wouldn't give two cents for a "fancy" rifle.

if its half as good as that clip it should be a beaut be even better in stainless,any one know what cals it will come in.

Wow check out that guys beard! that is impressive.

And Ruger hits a new low!!

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Originally posted by sambar02:
if its half as good as that clip it should be a beaut be even better in stainless,any one know what cals it will come in.

.243
.308
.270
30-06

Another leading contender for the race to the bottom.

A firearms company as Ruger can build and sell firearms as the Red Label Shotgun, Ruger RSM, single action revolvers as a standard for all others, etc., etc, and bring this rifle to the public is not a good thing. No doubt they will sell to the Walmart crowd and shows they have no bounds in their profit motives. I know they are in business to make money and one of the few firarm mfg's that do, but somewhere pride of workmanship should enter the picture. Can't imagine what Bill Ruger is thinking.

Considering the market it is intended for, I'd say it will do just fine! I've seen alot of ugly rifles in the last 4 or 5 years, this one really isn't "that" bad. It's not meant to be a thing of beuty, like someone said earlier it's a tool. I normally deer hunt with a browning A-bolt stainless stalker, with synthetic stock never never liked the way it looked. It fits me pretty good, and has yet to let me down since 1997, not a hiccup. To me it looks cheap, feels cheap, and sure aint gonna win a beuty contest.
I have trudged through whatever brushy mess has got in my way, and never cared. It is one rifle I own I don't think I could part with for those reasons.

That definitely an ugly rifle !!

Ummm. No.

Gotta remember all of the latest Ruger models including this one are making a lot of profit for them. Much more profit than their "traditional" guns. Without the profit from the new products how long do you think they could continue producing their traditional line without raising prices or cheapening the product.

Ruger is doing this smart I think. As for the rifle it ain't pretty. But that don't matter if it shoots and is reliable. I hope it is a success and they offer more calibers. I have been thinking of Tikka T3 lite in 22-250 as a knock around truck gun. But I will hold out for awhile and see what happens with the Ruger.

Question for ya'll from a gunwhore? What rifle/pistol/scope/firstborn male child would you divest yourself of to buy one of the Ruger Americans?




GWB

Wow
So ugly and wrong.
Who the fuck brought this to the market at Ruger????
They should be fired.
I'll try to review this PoS at the shot show.

Coming soon to a Walmart near you.

A large percentage of gunstores don't stock anything with a MSRP over #500. This could be Ruger's attempt to remain viable in this market.

This is just plain wrong, on so many levels.

I could see a company like Remington stepping up to a design like this, but for Ruger to step down to it, it's just plain wrong.

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Originally posted by k-9 krippler:
Considering the market it is intended for, I'd say it will do just fine! I've seen alot of ugly rifles in the last 4 or 5 years, this one really isn't "that" bad. It's not meant to be a thing of beuty, like someone said earlier it's a tool. I normally deer hunt with a browning A-bolt stainless stalker, with synthetic stock never never liked the way it looked. It fits me pretty good, and has yet to let me down since 1997, not a hiccup. To me it looks cheap, feels cheap, and sure aint gonna win a beuty contest.
I have trudged through whatever brushy mess has got in my way, and never cared. It is one rifle I own I don't think I could part with for those reasons.

Well said. roger

I like the tang safety and the detachable box magazine, but not really anything else.

I am amazed by all these comments. This rifle is in line with a lot of the mainstream rifles made now. It has a lot of the features of the X-bolt and the new accurate Savages. It looks like a T-3. It has a bolt lug design that looks a lot like some of the 50 caliber actions, which are very strong.

Almost every comment is pointed at it's looks. It is not a pretty custom for sure, but it looks just as good as a T-3, an X-bolt, an A-bolt or a Savage. (The last two I consider some of the ugliest rifles ever made. That hasn't hurt their sales or people's opinions of them). I bought an X-bolt in 375 not long ago, and it sure wasn't for the looks. However, I am convinced there is no better medium bore on the market for actually use as a working gun. It's set of features makes it unique, IMHO. None of the guns I compared it to can come close to the Ruger in price, unless Ruger raises it. Given the MSRP, the new rifle will likely sell in the $360-380 range. They have put together some of the best features from this class of gun. If it works well at this price, it should be a big hit. I for one will wait till there is some hands on data before I decide whether it is a good, functional, cheap and ugly rifle, or a bad, poorly working, cheap, ugly rifle.

Should we presume then that the other Ruger rifles are NOT 100% American made?

I predict some cluster involving misfires and an American #2 rifle released sometime in the fall..

I won't be buying one myself. But, I already have a safe full of rifles, and plenty of "hunting tools" to choose from. I confess I am a rifle junky, and own more rifles than anyone else I know (not near as many as some of you guys though!).

I plan on hunting for at least the next 20 years, but that being said, there are more hunting trips behind me than in front of me.

I think for the young guy, just starting out, on a budget, that maybe shoots 20 rounds a year, this gun would be perfect. Not for me, personally, but there is a definite market out there.

Sure it's a "Walmart" gun, so what? Look at the cheapo Remingtons (were 710's, don't know what they are now-770's?), Savage Axis, Marlin, etc. Those rifles are strong sellers. So why NOT have Ruger get into that market?

Hell, that's what the 10/22 and Mini-14's STARTED OUT being about. Remember when they hit the markets? Now they are waaay over priced because of the "cool" factor.

I only have one "cheap" gun, Stevens 200 in .223. It's my 'yote rifle, and kind of like what k-9 said about his Browning, it's ugly as hell, but accurate, never let me down, and I've had it in some of the roughest, thickest, thorniest country, hunting in AZ. I could use it for an axe to chop cactus out of the way and not care one bit about it's finish getting scratched up. Then turn and shoot a 'yote and keep right on going. I've literally used it as a plow in front of me to push thorn bushes out of my way.

I would not treat one of my wood stocked M70's that way, nor my wood stocked Weatherby either.

Ain't nobody twisting anyones arm to buy this rifle...if you don't like it, DON'T BUY IT...why waste your "valuable" time badmouthing it.

I've yet to find a rifle that EVERYONE likes whether it is wood OR plastic stocked or the "finest" Double....Jezzz, gimme a break... MANY rifles that have came out the past several years has been deep fried and crispy crittered on AR...and they still seem to fly out of the stores on speedy wings.

I'm not enthusiastic over ANY black rifle including the AR's and clones, but that doesn't stop people from wetting themselves over them.

I DO think that BOTH the Scout and the American should have INTERCHANGEABLE MAGS...I like both for different reasons.

Hell, you can switch barrels on MOST rifles, been done for 50 odd years I know of...WITH OR WITHOUT A NUT.

I guarantee I would rather have the Ruger than the POS Savage Axis...I can say that because I BOUGHT THE FIRST POS AXIS that hit town...everything was good until I took it apart and saw that piece of garbage they called a trigger/safety hanging off the back of the receiver, what it was made of and HOW it was made...if Savage had left the receiver alone it would have probably been OK.

It also looks like maybe the stock DOESN'T bend at the grip like the Axis...I can get 4" of X-hair flex at 100 yds from the Axis just by getting a good "solid"? grip/cheek weld with the SS 25-06 I bought mid last year. Time will tell on that.

BUT...that still doesn't mean that same Axis rifle isn't totally loved by MANY someone's.

Luck

All the disparaging comments about it being "junk" or a "Wal Mart gun" are off base. We need affordable rifles if we want to keep hunting and shooting alive. If the "entry fee" into the world of shooting centerfire rifles is close to or even over $1000, IMO that keeps a lot of casual hunters and shooters on the sidelines who might otherwise buy a rifle and go hunting.

Is this thing pretty? HELL NO! Would I buy one? Probably not. Is it a bad move for Ruger to get into the "entry level" market? Nope. It makes good sense. I'd venture to guess that Remington and Savage are selling a lot more of their 770 and Axis than Ruger is selling of their M77 Hawkeye African (which is a pretty rifle, BTW).

That rifle is so ugly I would hope that if I were killed in an accident that someone would have the decency to take it out of the picture!

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Originally posted by Boss Hoss:
That rifle is so ugly

I've been a competitive shooter since my early teens. I've shot up and down North America and across the Atlantic. I've been humbled many many times by shooters who were proud of firearms that I thought were "ugly". Handsome is as handsome does ...

It looks like a cross between a Remington 710/770 and Savage Axis with a browning bolt No doubt it will make money for the bean counters at Ruger who are lining up to be like everyone else, but I'm sure Bill Ruger is rolling over in his grave!

I made no comment when I posted first but I think many are missing the point of the rifle. Not everyone is like us in that we see our rifles as more than a tool and agonise endlessly over the minutae of perfection as we see it. There are many who just want a rifle to shoot a deer or two each year and may not be at the range every other day playing with this load or changing out the scope, may not spend hours agonising on which open sight set up to put on a rifle that will probably always wear glass of such quality the the need for the irons is a moot point but they are needed to make it look right. The Savage price point rifles sell for a reason and I see Ruger's entry into this market as a business decision not a direction. My current (and probably for always) line-up is arround DWM and FN 98's, a Kimber, an XR100 and an AYA so while I may never buy another Ruger I have had Mod 77's, 10/22's a MKll target 22 and a SBH and think the new American will find a place in the buying publics price range. A "price point" rifle now does not necessarily mean a cheap rifle in terms of the quality that can be bought to the components as the new methods of manufacture have meant that the cost through machining methods do not have to reflect on the way an Oberndorf was made or how a Prechtl or a Satterlee is now made. I certainly wont be in the market for one but wouldn't dismiss thier place in the market for those who will see them as "just the ticket".

Von Gruff.

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Originally posted by Ramsgate:

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Originally posted by Boss Hoss:
That rifle is so ugly

I've been a competitive shooter since my early teens. I've shot up and down North America and across the Atlantic. I've been humbled many many times by shooters who were proud of firearms that I thought were "ugly". Handsome is as handsome does ...

100% correct----but I doubt that these are going to be tack drivers.

Even if one turns out to be a hummer it is kind of like that old joke ------what does a mini bike and making love to a fat girl have in common?? They are both fun but you don’t want any of your friends to see you riding on either one!!!