Anyone got a problem with Jackalopes?

Not taxidermy, but a comedy baboon pict.



I like the two already inside the car-top carrier.

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Originally posted by Rembrandt1:
Anyone got a problem with Jackalopes?

Im sure somebody does.

I consider humans in one category and all other animals in another.Humans deserve respect and animals are to be used by those humans for food, clothing, and entertainment.They are a resource to be used wisely and the reckless mismanagemnt of the resource is sinful.

That said , once dead they are dead.Mounting them in whatever fashion one deems appropriate is alright by me.If money were not an obstacle I would set-up a card table with all baboon players.

In my next shipment from Namibia I will have one coming in the same pose as D99 posted at the start of this thread.He will serve starters at formal events in my home in the near future.

What sense does it make to say a certain pose is disrespectful to an animal but killing it and eating it's flesh is OK ? I say eat it, mount it, enjoy the photos of it, and the memories all of those evoke.

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Originally posted by Nganga:
That is THE difference between a killer and a hunter.

Steve

Oh really. Can I assume then that you have never killed while hunting? Is killing not the ultimate goal in this sport?

Am I a killer? Yes I am. But you know NOTHING about me. I am the killer that passed up two 130 pound Leopards in Zim this year because they were not what I was looking for. I am the killer that goes to great effort to pose the animals for trophy photos, removing all blood etc. I am the killer that has passed on countless Whitetails over the last four years hoping that the next one will be "The One".

Like the Baboon mount or not, it's your opinion and I can live with that, but tossing that lame old hunter/killer line around paints with a pretty broad brush.

Mike

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Am I a killer? Yes I am. But you know NOTHING about me. I am the killer that passed up two 130 pound Leopards in Zim this year because they were not what I was looking for. I am the killer that goes to great effort to pose the animals for trophy photos, removing all blood etc. I am the killer that has passed on countless Whitetails over the last four years hoping that the next one will be "The One".

Thats very decent of you!! Very cosmopolitan indeed



Steve

BOWHUNR. Thumbs ups for the Baboon Mounts. I thought they were well done and very comical!

LOL - Guess there's always some that just don't have a sense of humor!

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Originally posted by RaySendero:
BOWHUNR. Thumbs ups for the Baboon Mounts. I thought they were well done and very comical!

LOL - Guess there's always some that just don't have a sense of humor!

Ray,
Would say a Lion and a Lioness standing on their rears dancing, dressed in some clothing (you choose) be OK as well?

Steve

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Originally posted by Nganga:

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Originally posted by RaySendero:
BOWHUNR. Thumbs ups for the Baboon Mounts. I thought they were well done and very comical!

LOL - Guess there's always some that just don't have a sense of humor!

Ray,
Would say a Lion and a Lioness standing on their rears dancing, dressed in some clothing (you choose) be OK as well?

Steve

Business casual or nicer, we aren't savages.....

Yup, these guys never behave in silly ways, so don't do anything taxidermy-wise that might degrade their dignity.

For some reason, primates are the animal of choice for "comedy mounts". I have seen a lot of them; three vervet monkeys with their hands over their eyes, mouth, and ears, a monkey with its middle finger raised, a lifesize gorilla made with fake fur, dressed in a tuxedo holding a tray (that did look funny), a gorilla, orangatang and a chimp, all made with fake fur, playing a trumpet, trombone, and a sax. Also photos posed with baboons and cigarettes in their mouth and baseball caps on (saw quite a few of those). Saw a photo in a booth at SCI once of a camel someone had shot with an eyepatch and a cigarette in his mouth (Joe Camel), and a donkey someone had shot on a cull hunt with zebra stripes painted on it. Didn't really care for any of them, except the lifesize gorilla in the tuxedo (it was a form covered with fake fur, and a lot of work went into it. The taxidermist even got a tailor to make the tuxedo and sew it onto the gorilla).

fake fur huh?

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
fake fur huh?

There are companies that make fake fur for taxidermists to do replicas, it is used by museums to reproduce extinct animals like mammoths. It is very realistic, and can be used for replicas like gorillas, chimps, pandas and other animals that are protected species. It is sometimes used for novelty mounts.

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Originally posted by Nganga:

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Originally posted by RaySendero:
BOWHUNR. Thumbs ups for the Baboon Mounts. I thought they were well done and very comical!

LOL - Guess there's always some that just don't have a sense of humor!

Ray,
Would say a Lion and a Lioness standing on their rears dancing, dressed in some clothing (you choose) be OK as well?

Steve

Steve,

It is not a Lion or Lioness, it's a Baboon. I would have a problem with the King and Queen of beast's mounted that way. D99 asked for Baboon comedy mounts and I gave him one, just like many other A.R. members have done in the past.

That mount is in my home and trust me, the "anti's" are not welcome here. One slips through the cracks now and then, but if they quit crying and listen long enough I educate them on the important role that sport hunting has to preserve our beloved animals and sport.

How many Prairie dogs, Woodchucks and Hyrax are blown to red mist every year and left to lay serving no purpose whatsoever? I just find it funny that a Baboon, considered in most African countries a varmint has caused such an uproar.

Mike

Love the pictures Doc,

Nice Hamaydrayas baboon! He must be into some wierd stuff.

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Originally posted by eyedoc:
I consider humans in one category and all other animals in another.Humans deserve respect and animals are to be used by those humans for food, clothing, and entertainment.They are a resource to be used wisely and the reckless mismanagemnt of the resource is sinful.

That said , once dead they are dead.Mounting them in whatever fashion one deems appropriate is alright by me.If money were not an obstacle I would set-up a card table with all baboon players.

In my next shipment from Namibia I will have one coming in the same pose as D99 posted at the start of this thread.He will serve starters at formal events in my home in the near future.

What sense does it make to say a certain pose is disrespectful to an animal but killing it and eating it's flesh is OK ? I say eat it, mount it, enjoy the photos of it, and the memories all of those evoke.

So for all of the people who are horrified by comedy baboon mounts, I'm really curious how you feel about making an elephant in a pair of boots and some piano keys? Or 30 odd mink into a coat? It's definitely not preserving the dignity of the animal after its death....

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So for all of the people who are horrified by comedy baboon mounts, I'm really curious how you feel about making an elephant in a pair of boots and some piano keys? Or 30 odd mink into a coat? It's definitely not preserving the dignity of the animal after its death....

You make interesting arguments, however the baboon mounts are an obtuse statement specifically intended to demean the creature, in a way showing human dominance.

They are your mounts, your trophy room, your friends. I have a handicapped son, most of his therapists are greenies, crusadors if you will. Even they will admit to my wife that "your husband certainly shows his respect for these animals"

I dont do it this way to gain their approval because I don't really care what the antis think, we will never be accepted by them and for us to move our bar to try and gain tepid approval from them we incrementally lose.

I believe as I do because it is internal. I can no more change my feeling about those mounts than I can about my feelings towards hunting or the outdoor lifestyle I live.

They are yours, mine are mine, we can shake hands as gentlement and agree to disagree



Steve

Steve-I have seen the photos of your trophy room and I know that you are a hunter and collector of merit.Some of your displays are breathtaking.I understand what you are saying about something internal that tells you that these comedy mounts are just "not right."It has everything to do with your upbringing.

I was raised Baptist in Catholic south Louisiana.I grew up ,worked and played along side all these folks, all my life knowing that they had it all figured out wrong. But I refrained from telling them so.At least on a daily basis.

I will not ever see this issue in the same light that you do.I am however willing to try to see that there is nothing wrong with your seeing it the way that you do.All I would ask of you is that you try to avoid coming on board and calling those of us who see it differently derogatory names.

It seems as if this subject a long with posting head shots of animals is getting a lot of attention. I do agree and side with those that re-frame from posting and displaying this kind of nonsense and find it simply tasteless and disrespectful. While I agree that head shots are great and perhaps the most humane way to take your game, it certainly doesn't qualify as a portrait to be considered for an award and some especially our non-hunting friends may consider offensive while changing their opinion on hunters and their motives. Monkey's baboons and their relatives are pranksters, trouble makers and in my camp one time could have even been labeled a criminal. But dressing them up to be waiters or anything else for human amusement, is simply not amusing.

Eyedoc,
Can't disagree with a single thing you say. Except...I re-read all my posts and other than "killer" I can't find any inflamitory language.

But, I get the gist and agree with the premise of your post.



Steve

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Originally posted by eyedoc:
Steve-I have seen the photos of your trophy room and I know that you are a hunter and collector of merit.Some of your displays are breathtaking.I understand what you are saying about something internal that tells you that these comedy mounts are just "not right."It has everything to do with your upbringing.

I was raised Baptist in Catholic south Louisiana.I grew up ,worked and played along side all these folks, all my life knowing that they had it all figured out wrong. But I refrained from telling them so.At least on a daily basis.

Is Babtist a 2000 year old Religion? I don't think so!

I grew up World Wide Church of God, but was stil taught that animals were on this planet to serve man.

Catholicism wether it's Orthodox or Roman has tought for 1930 years that God put all animals on this planet to serve man.

Just joking about religion and not trying to start a range war over it.

Can't argue with whats written in the bible, and since Islam, Judism and Christianity all use similar books of the Old Testament .

at least this could be seen as a funny mount.


peter

he's respecting the hell outta that frog

The above video is a litte off topic but I must say after I got through crying, sneezing, coughing and gagging I have to admit that this is one ofthe funniest and yet sickest thngs I've seen for quite some time.

Mark

I guess its all down to taste (or lack of it?) but I don't see anything remotely "comedy" about dressing up a baboon carcass??

But I'm sure it would fit right in with "Billy the singing Bass" on the wall and the plastic pink flamingos out on the lawn

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Originally posted by peterdk:
at least this could be seen as a funny mount.

Sorry man but this video is about as funny as a heart attack! Let the damn monkey go and live in the trees where he/she belongs. Even if it hunted for food it will die with humility. Watching a caged animal masturbating or whatever it is doing for the amusement of the crowd is sickening at least! Why don't you remove this crap. I hope I get a second for that!

I wonder what the charge is, to mount a baboon with a frog

I wouldnt want a comedy mount in my house but why the hell should I care what someone else does. Once again there seems to be confusion between ethics and the way we do it. The mount isnt an animal it is a piece of leather on a foam base. This isnt some moral dilema but a matter of personal taste. I dont care for these type of mounts but if someone else does that is up to them. It certainly isnt about respecting the animal, the animal is long gone. Besides, where does it say someone cant have a little humor? I prefer my mounts to be as lifelike as possible but a trophy room isnt a church. To each their own.

Taxidermy takes many different routes....not sure what to think about this one. Beer decanter done up like a squirrel for $750....?



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Originally posted by Mike Smith:
This isnt some moral dilema but a matter of personal taste.

I have to disagree to a certain extent. Our tastes, what we are capable of laughing at in this case, are shaped by our sense of morality.

I'm with Pete E and a few others. When it comes to "comedy" mounts of baboons I just don't get it. It isn't like I haven't laughed at them. I have. The last one I tried to shoot I had to wait until a female finished giving him a hand job. It seemed like the decent thing to do. But on the other hand no matter how silly they act sometimes I'd hate to wrestle one because I'd lose. So in the final analysis I can't consider them a joke.

I wouldn't ever argue my particular sense of morality is superior. I would happily waterboard Khalid Sheikh Muhammad on Easter Sunday, for instance.

As someone said, to each their own.

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Originally posted by Rembrandt1:
Taxidermy takes many different routes....not sure what to think about this one. Beer decanter done up like a squirrel for $750....?



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O.K. I voiced my opinion on the baboons as kind of tasteless, held my head high on caring for the dignity of the animals we hunt and how they should be displayed but............the squirrel and gopher flasks...take the cake! I'm still laughing! I don't care who you are, that's some funny $hit right there! My side hurts! I want a dozen of them!....

What I find really funny is that someone would pay $750.00 for it.

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Originally posted by Mike Smith:
What I find really funny is that someone would pay $750.00 for it.

Think of this for a minute, you're freezing you a$$ off in a goose blind and your buddy pulls out a gopher and starts sucking on his face!

That's worth every bid of $750.00..

yeah you have a point there.

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Originally posted by WhatThe:

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Originally posted by Mike Smith:
What I find really funny is that someone would pay $750.00 for it.

Think of this for a minute, you're freezing you a$$ off in a goose blind and your buddy pulls out a gopher and starts sucking on his face!

That's worth every bid of $750.00..

Now if the taxidermist reversed the mount so the bottle was comming out the other end . . .

Best to keep a bottle in these squirrels at all times. Even if it is an empty bottle for display purposes. God forbid if someone where to find a "bottless" squirrel in your sock drawer.

How about a squirrel on the rocks with a gopher chaser? I'm still laughing at this!

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Originally posted by D99:
Baboons are nasty animals, everything deserves respect.

I have only shot one, and I wanted to turn him into a little safari suited hunter.

+1+1+1 great picture. Shakari looks so natural leaning against the tree like that