We are killing hogs by hundreds while culling them we are testing many calibers ,from diferent brands .NORMA ammo is used in 90 percent of our hunts with great succes ,but for instance remington 55 grain sps works incredible well.This is a shot at 48 mts running in the head .You know that for moving targets you have 2 techniques one is follow the target and shot in the front while moving and other recommended in an area with many obstacles like trees is ambush shot you wait and shoot when the target appears in your sigth i choose this second manner more easily to teach to non hunters shooters.

rifle cz fox 18 inch barrel.

the results of a 20 caliber, 40 gr. Hornady V-Max at 100 yds. on a hoglet . Muzzle velocity +/- 3,850 fps.

GWB

incredible efect please specify the caliber ,rifle and barrel i will use this in my classes .

The 40 gr. v-max is a varmint bullet. I would not try heart or shoulder shots. However, work great if one is comfortable with neck or head shots. This rifle is a 1/2 moa shooter. Consequently, at 150 yds. and under with a good rest, I am comfortable using it.

GWB


whitetail cull, +/- 80 yds.



Cooper model 21, Tactical 20 (20-223)
40 gr V-max, 24.5 gr. Reloader 10X, Federal 205M primer, 2.250 OAL, muzzle velocity =/- 3,850 fps.

can you post a photo of the shells and point is this caliber a wild cat ,are any production cartrige...Juan

That deer's neck looks about like what a Springbuck's did in Africa, but I used a 300WSM 180gr. Fail Safe.

(I'm sure it would be the same on any continent, on similiar size game! So don't start LOL)

Juanpozzi,

Although I am an advocate of use enough gun, I'm not above having some fun when I'm culling.

Perhaps this will get you started.

The Tactical 20 is the 7th from the left.



Left to right: 17 ackley hornet, 17 hebee, 17 fireball, 17 mach IV, 17 remington, 20 vartarg, 20 Tactical, 22 hornet,218 bee, 221 fireball, 222 rem.

Pretty much will cover the varmint spectrum (varmints, not chamberings).

Some more info.

This from Todd Kindler’s Website at the Woodchuck DenThe Tactical 20 was designed by Todd Kindler - Editor of Small Caliber News www.smallcaliber.com and owner of The Woodchuck Den, Inc. www.woodchuckden.com for precision long range varmint shooting. The goal was to design a twenty caliber cartridge with super long-range performance, but on a modest case design to minimize recoil and noise. Todd also selected the time proven and readily available top quality 223 case to base his Tactical 20 on (most shooters call it the 20 TAC or TAC 20 today). Todd designed the 20 TAC with the accuracy proven 30 degree shoulder and the proper neck length to accommodate a wide range of bullets that he knew would be available down the road.
It didn't take the 20 TAC very long to prove itself in the varmint shooting sports. It soon was destroying alfalfa eating woodchucks at 400 to 600 yards and stopping coyotes in their tracks with minimal pelt damage - something the most serious coyote hunter likes to see. Serious varmint shooters around the world started building 20 TAC's for their varmint hunting needs. It wasn't long until the word spread on the outstanding design and long range potential of this cartridge. Some of the shooters like Greg Tannel owner of Gre-Tan Rifles who just happens to have a solid reputation for building the most accurate competition and varmint rifles in the world built himself a 20 TAC and called it a "Death Ray On Varmints"!
The 20 TAC is one of the many early twenty caliber cartridges that Todd has designed and it soon "blew the 20 caliber door wide open"! With 30 to 40 grain bullets, it is one of the most accurate and efficient 20 calibers available today. With the high B.C. 40 grain bullets, it has less bullet drop and wind drift than the 220 Swift! And does it with less than 25 grains of powder compared to the 220 Swift using 39 grains of powder!
Recently Dakota Arms was so impressed with the 20 TAC that they decided to license it from Todd and soon there will be precision Lapua brass and loaded ammo for it. Todd has just completed testing the first production run of the Lapua/Dakota 20 TAC brass and he was very impressed with the excellent quality and precision of the new Lapua/Dakota 20 TAC cases.
Are you ready for a serious "Death Ray" varmint cartridge? Then buy or build a 20 TAC today! The Woodchuck Den has all the precision reloading dies and equipment to help you on your 20 TAC, so give Todd a call at 330.897.0614 today!
Check out Todd's "Terrific Twenties" reloading manual - the one and only 20 caliber reloading manual on the planet!

Here is a link to info on the Tac 20 at 6mmBR
http://www.6mmbr.com/20caliber.html

I'm suprised to see such distruction from varment cartridges. Of course the .223 is also a martial cartridge, but usually associated with varments when it comes to hunting.

Thanks for the enlightment.

very ,very interesting calibers and rifles thanks friends ,please post more photos and experiments.

Juan, the TAC 20 is superb but may be a while getting into common use. The 204 Ruger will perform the same or slightly better and is available in many factory rifles including the AR-15 platform. Or you can get an upper and some mags for an existing gun.

The Ruger round is based on the 222 Magnum case instead of the 223 or 5,56 but runs fine in a zombie gun. Ruger and Hornady probably "borrowed" the idea from the TAC 20 but at least there is easy-to-find factory Hornady ammo available.

I have noticed a lot of game being taken cleanly with solid copper bullets in calibers that I would not have ever thought to use.

Nice shooting

Cheers, John

I;ve posted this before I think, but it is the result of a 55-gr Nosler Ballistic Tip out of my .22-250 at 3550 fps mv. Hog was about 60-yds away.

I THOUGT I WAS A WOUND BALLISTICS EXPERT SURGEON

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
Juan, the TAC 20 is superb but may be a while getting into common use. The 204 Ruger will perform the same or slightly better and is available in many factory rifles including the AR-15 platform. Or you can get an upper and some mags for an existing gun.

The Ruger round is based on the 222 Magnum case instead of the 223 or 5,56 but runs fine in a zombie gun. Ruger and Hornady probably "borrowed" the idea from the TAC 20 but at least there is easy-to-find factory Hornady ammo available.

+1 on what Tiggertate says. I don't know why I did not suggest that myself. The 204 Ruger should definately be more easy to come by, both brass and rifles.

GWB

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Originally posted by dustoffer:
I;ve posted this before I think, but it is the result of a 55-gr Nosler Ballistic Tip out of my .22-250 at 3550 fps mv. Hog was about 60-yds away.

Where'd you get your hands on that Bin Laden picture?!?

Bin Laden was shot with a 70gr TSX out of a 5.56/223 at 2600 fps, made his explode too!

Perry

Looks like anything over .22 Mag is overkill?

I've been reloading 70 grain JSPs in my .223 for close to 20 years now, and though not my first choice for pigs they have worked very well on pigs up to 150 pounds even with body shots. They have also worked well on Mouflon Sheep, and Axis Deer. The velocity is tad above 2800 FPS.

Hey Guys,

Here's a very interesting new " .223 Bullet " under " R&D Testing Phase ".

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I like that little 223 as well. Twist was 1:9. A 223 NonCon would be extremely interesting, and I think at some point that will happen.... Michael

http://forums.accuratereloadin...3/m/2861098911/p/175

PAPI

I've loaded up some 70 grain Speers for my Mini 14 truck gun. Plan on using it as an all purpose ranch gun when not hunting deer. Never know when you'll run in to a coyote, racoon or hog.

I took my 11 year old son to South Africa last year. I had him practice shooting for months before we left and the only caliber that did not cause him to flinch was a .223. I was concerned that the .223 would not be enough gun for some of the plains game I wanted him to shoot, but I could not let him develop a flinch, so he used a .223. His little Tikka T3 stunned me with how it dropped game. He dropped two impala bulls, a warthog, a mountain reebok, duiker and blesbuck all with single shots using 55 grain Federal Fusion loads. Shot placement by the little man was very good (mostly lung/heart), but I simply could not believe how effective that little .223 was. I would prefer him to use a larger round and will be moving him up when he is ready, but with appropriate shot placement, that .223 shocked me with how effective it was.

Untold threads about using or not using .223 on deer. Two groups. Group one has done it and makes favorable report. Group 2 has not done it--except on their keyboard and claims it cant be done. Several years ago--before actual experience--I would have thought too light. Several years of observing experience I will be using .223 on my next deer if I decide there is a next one. Where is Kabluey--he has years of non experience (except keyboard) and he can tell you it wont work.

Back in the late '90s with another guy hunting antelope (proghorn). I was along to shoot coyotes and saw one. I crawled out there a long ways but, never did get a shot at it.

I did have an antelope tag in my pocket but only had the .223 w/55gr Rem's, 25gr H4895.
Came upon a herd of antelope laying scattered around the grass. I took a shot at one for the head & cut it 1/4" too high, put a groove in the hair between the ears it was that close.

It ran a bit and stopped to look back, I put one in the ribs, centered about midway up. He staggered about 15-20 feet & set down & tipped over.

Bullet hit a rib going in, glanced back thru one lung & the liver, exited out the short ribs on the far side. Measuring the travel was right at 13". There was just a bullet sized hole in both side's. That's my only game shot with a .223.
George