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Here is a lion that was killed yesterday in Tanzania. Mark asked me to post it up for him. I am not able to mention the specific area of the kill.



Mark felt the lion is likely 12 years plus. It is a fabulous lion to be certain. I thought some of you might enjoy seeing the photo.

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Magnificent kitty and he looks to be large of head and body. Congrats to Mark and his client - I presume it was shot by a client, yes? That question is NOT intended to start the pissers contest nor the horse beating. It is a beautiful cat, so I hope everyone can just enjoy it.


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I like seeing it!!! clap


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Not knowing sheep shit from Shinola shoe polish about lions, I am only asking, wouldn't a 12yr old lions teeth be worn down more than those?
Magnificent lion by the way.


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Sorry I did not pick Mark’s brain for all the specifics of who killed it. The client used a .375 H&H. The shot was 50 yards. Mark had him on bait, built a blind. They entered the blind in the dark and waited an hour and a half for it to get light. The lion was roaring the entire time. They watched him for 45 minutes before taking him.

I did not question (not to be condescending) Mark’s criteria for judging the age. I just put up the picture for general enjoyment. If I hear additional I will update this post.

Cheers,
Shawn


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So far, so good. I am impressed by both the lion and the civility. popcorn
 
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Beautiful lion. Congratulations to both Mark and the successful hunter.


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Originally posted by bwana cecil:
Not knowing sheep shit from Shinola shoe polish about lions, I am only asking, wouldn't a 12yr old lions teeth be worn down more than those?
Magnificent lion by the way.


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I am no expert either but I have several guide books for aging Lions and according to the pictures there is no way that that Lion is 12...probably closer to 6 or 7.

Beautiful, mature, a old enough to shoot, so I say "good job" to you Mark S!
 
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Not knowing sheep shit from Shinola shoe polish about lions, I am only asking, wouldn't a 12yr old lions teeth be worn down more than those?
Magnificent lion by the way.


+1

I am no expert either but I have several guide books for aging Lions and according to the pictures there is no way that that Lion is 12...probably closer to 6 or 7.

Beautiful, mature, a old enough to shoot, so I say "good job" to you Mark S!


I can’t see the canine ridge or lack of it on the upper canines or the back of the lower canines to comment on wear. I can’t see the rear molars either…but I bet Mark can though :0).

Shawn


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That is one impressive lion. I don't think anyone can disagree with that. Any further commentary is unwarranted, IMHO.
 
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Great lion and great photo. Thanks, Shawn. What dreams are made of.


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Helluva cat!


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Great cat! Congrats to both the client and Mark.
 
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Well done to all participants.Cats,as grand as he,are true treasures. The full mount will amaze and educate all as to the size and power of the lion.I raise my glass to your hunt and success. Jim
 
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Seriously great lion. Congratulations to all involved.


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Nice looking lion. Well done all.

Would be interested to hear what methods MS (or anyone else, for that matter) uses to age a just-shot lion in the field.

Going by the photo alone I would be surprised if the one in question is 12. Not looking to start a fight but would like to learn a bit about age estimation for my own enlightenment.
 
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Impressive.


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Awesome cat! tu2
 
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I am not able to mention the specific area of the kill.


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At least five pages... Congrats to Mark and his client.


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Wow!! Congratulations, that is a lion one dreams about!!
 
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Originally posted by bwana cecil:
Not knowing sheep shit from Shinola shoe polish about lions, I am only asking, wouldn't a 12yr old lions teeth be worn down more than those?
Magnificent lion by the way.


+1

I am no expert either but I have several guide books for aging Lions and according to the pictures there is no way that that Lion is 12...probably closer to 6 or 7.

Beautiful, mature, a old enough to shoot, so I say "good job" to you Mark S!


I can’t see the canine ridge or lack of it on the upper canines or the back of the lower canines to comment on wear. I can’t see the rear molars either…but I bet Mark can though :0).

Shawn


I am not saying that the lion was too young by any means...but the chances of that lion being 12 yrs old are VERY slim.

You CAN see enough of its teeth to say that without a doubt. Should have just left the 12 year old remark out.

Even if you were just in Vegas playing the odds...they would astronomical on a 12 yr old wild lion. But...those teeth virtually guarantee it is not 12...or...even close.


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Not knowing sheep shit from Shinola shoe polish about lions, I am only asking, wouldn't a 12yr old lions teeth be worn down more than those?
Magnificent lion by the way.


It matters not! He is a good lion, and of legal age for harvest, and that is all that counts about this lion. Further comment is not needed here!

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I was under the impression that ageing a lion was fairly difficult. But I see that some of us can judge their age with just one photograph.

Give the man his due. Great Lion!!!

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Yesssir!!


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Great Lion!!!!

Do you think I could buy Mark's shirt he is wearing? Sorry...can't help myself sometimes....

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Great Lion. Certainly old enough it appears to me. At any rate, if the PH says shoot, well consider it done.


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I was under the impression that ageing a lion was fairly difficult. But I see that some of us can judge their age with just one photograph.

Give the man his due. Great Lion!!!

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With that photo...it is NOT hard to say with a high degree of certainty that this lion is not 12(or even close)...unless someone has been throwing him a goat carcass every 2-3 days for the last 5-6 years.

That said...I am not disputing that he is old enough to take. Congrats to the hunter.


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Who gives a shit if the cat is 6 or 60 years old, that is a great trophy.
 
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Watched it for 45 minutes....

Talk about a bonus for the client! (PH as well.)
 
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I was under the impression that ageing a lion was fairly difficult. But I see that some of us can judge their age with just one photograph.

Give the man his due. Great Lion!!!

Bob


With that photo...it is NOT hard to say with a high degree of certainty that this lion is not 12(or even close)...unless someone has been throwing him a goat carcass every 2-3 days for the last 5-6 years.

That said...I am not disputing that he is old enough to take. Congrats to the hunter.


Yeah....that was my thought as well Lane. Congratualtions to Mark and the hunter. What a lion!!!

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PS> Kind of like.....oh by the way I've shot 14 year old sheep the last two years. Possible? Yes. Likely? Absolutely not!


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Who gives a shit if the cat is 6 or 60 years old, that is a great trophy.


Not me sir. 6 or >...fine by me.

What I do have a problem with is BS and that statement about that lion being 12 is BS. Felt obligated to point that out...esp since I got about a dozen PM's about it.

I told him congrats.


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Not knowing sheep shit from Shinola shoe polish about lions, I am only asking, wouldn't a 12yr old lions teeth be worn down more than those?
Magnificent lion by the way.


It matters not! He is a good lion, and of legal age for harvest, and that is all that counts about this lion. Further comment is not needed here!

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Very nice Lion, what a mane. Mark and his client did great.


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Very nice lion and I am sure the hunt with Sullivan was fantastic in all other aspects.
The lion is certainly mature and a very respectable cat
push's my buttons to want to go hunting with Mark a bit more regardless of the anti Sullivan sentiment out there

Congratulations to Mark and his client
 
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