...who shows up with his 13 posts and his big guy attitude because he films Craig Boddington with a video camera and takes exception to anyone who criticizes CB. Apparently because he's in the television industry he knows a lot more than the rest of us regular hunters. I wonder if he wipes Boddington's ass for him in addition to kissing it?

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Thanks for taking Craigs back guys. It is hard to defend yourself from idiot attacks when you are overseas busting your ass to make a living as he is at the moment. If you do not enjoy an authors writings, fair enough, don't read his stuff. But the cyber sniping-let me invite you to drop by the booth and introduce yourself and your views in person . We are not hard to find . This guy is not worth the response , but a THANK YOU was in order from me to those of you who smacked this little man around.
Thanks guys
Dave

A loyal friend?? That's how they operate, they look out for each other and shit like that...

Just thought the concept might have eluded you.

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Just thought the concept might have eluded you.

No, but hero worship does.

All my heroes are dead, mostly for a century or more.

I went back and read that TAA thread, you know people tell me all the time if I don't like it turn it off. NO. I do like it. I simply agreed with Sgraves155 and got hammered for it then he became invisible. If you don't like a post don't fucking read it Larry, you sure kissed Dave's ass when he showed up.
COWCHIP

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Originally posted by chipolopolo:
I went back and read that TAA thread, you know people tell me all the time if I don't like it turn it off. NO. I do like it. I simply agreed with Sgraves155 and got hammered for it then he became invisible. If you don't like a post don't fucking read it Larry, you sure kissed Dave's ass when he showed up.
COWCHIP

Sorry, I was attempting to voice an opinion regarding the ethics of certain types of hunting/Sports-Writing. No one appeared to be in an "Ortega y Gasset" mood. All they gave me was angry epithets, insults, and my hat handed to me. I am sure many could give reasoned responses, but apparently not when one of their icons is impugned.

adrook,
Dave Fulson may be a fine fellow, I don't know him, but his post did give me a chuckle when he described CB as "overseas, busting his ass to make a living" doing what the rest of us are usually saving our money to do for fun.

Not really Chippy, just compliment given where compliment due. Being dense must be really hard to live with, huh??

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

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Originally posted by chipolopolo:
I went back and read that TAA thread, you know people tell me all the time if I don't like it turn it off. NO. I do like it. I simply agreed with Sgraves155 and got hammered for it then he became invisible. If you don't like a post don't fucking read it Larry, you sure kissed Dave's ass when he showed up.
COWCHIP

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Originally posted by SGraves155:

Dave Fulson may be a fine fellow, I don't know him, but his post did give me a chuckle when he described CB as "overseas, busting his ass to make a living" doing what the rest of us are usually saving our money to do for fun.

Adrook,
Dave Fulson is a part owner of Safari Productions, a TV outfit that produces a variety of TV shows and hunting oriented DVD's. He is a partner with CB on this.

I have met with Dave and found him to be an extremely knowledgable guy, has hunted Africa dozens of times and is very unassuming. I met him outside the "convention circus". I have talked with him on the phone.

He is level headed and knows what he is doing and talking about.

I am in the energy business, not the safari business. I have been in and part of a couple of TV hunt shows in the US. I came away from the experience thinking that I was glad I do not hunt for a living or have to make TV shows. These guys have to be outdoorsman extraordinaire in order to film what they film. Dave's crew and his work is really "work". It is not fun and games. I would not to have wanted to put out the DVD "Boddington on Elephant". It must have taken a tremendous effort to get the footage as well as the photo ops. I am sure the the video team turned down more shooting ops than that actually videoed due to light or position of the animal or something that prevented a shot on film.

I admire these guys but could never do their job. They spend 100 or more days a year in the field, away from home sleeping tents and doing what they do. It would get real old real fast, especially if the animals were not there.

Fulson, Boddington, Buzz Charlton, Ivan Carter, Mark Watts and others are hard working guys that do what they love - but it comes at a price.

I would not want to be CB at a hunting convention a listen to all of the drivel from a world of wannabees.

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Originally posted by onefunzr2:

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Originally posted by SGraves155:

Dave Fulson may be a fine fellow, I don't know him, but his post did give me a chuckle when he described CB as "overseas, busting his ass to make a living" doing what the rest of us are usually saving our money to do for fun.

I really take issue with thinking that doing what CB does is have fun hunting. What he does and what Ivan Carter does is hard, butt busting work. It is pleasure for us, but I would say that after 60 days in the bush making videos, each of us would be ready to go back to our regular job.

If you think it is easy or fun, then why are there not more people out there doing it? In the US or Canada, no problem - you can buy a camera and make movies and attempt to sell them. Africa is a different deal- more problems, more logistics, more expense.

If you think it is easy - video one of your hunts, edit it and attempt to sell it.

I think you will find it is a lot harder than we all think it is.

dogcat,
I am sure you are correct in how much work the videographers and PH's do, and I am sure much of it is hard-work, although it is also a pleasure much of the time. Dave's remark, and mine, were not regarding those folks.

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...who shows up with his 13 posts and his big guy attitude because he films Craig Boddington with a video camera and takes exception to anyone who criticizes CB. Apparently because he's in the television industry he knows a lot more than the rest of us regular hunters. I wonder if he wipes Boddington's ass for him in addition to kissing it?

Well now, hoss, I reckon you're a pretty "tough" guy, spouting off like that. Question is, would you say that to Dave's face, or are you just another "cyber-wuss" that cowers in the safe vastness of the worldwide web.

And yes, we DO stick together!

Thought so,

JW

This thread is a waste of bandwidth.

Andy,

I shook Craig Boddington's hand once and that is the total of my personal expereince with him so I can't comment on his character further. Dave Fulson who I know only slightly better seems like a good guy. What I can say is that in my expereince the product that they put out individually or together is of a high quality and a "MUST" viewing/reading for people contemplating their 1st or 21st safari.

Mark

I wouldn't say Craig is a hero in my eyes, but he does seem very compentent at his job, be it writting or doing video hunts. It is his job and apparently a job he enjoys. I guess I am lucky as I enjoy my job greatly, but unfornatally people won't pay to watch me do my job. I guess I could be jealous like many here and spew sour grapes.

I do have great respect for Craig and his crew for the excellent job they do.

As my son said "My heros are people that do their jobs and do them well." So in his eyes I am sure Craig IS a HERO!

Of all the folks I know, among the least I'd like to piss off in person is Jeff Wemmer. I do not want my head mashed like a pimple.

Stay my friend, please, Jeff.

While I don't think it well advised to get nasty and personal in a defense of oneself or a friend (btw, I believe Boddington and crew can let their videos, in effect, speak for themselves), I suspect a little jealousy, a little pride in product, a little anomynity on the internet and a little testosterone have made this thread more about personalities than about anything pertinent to any safari I'm going to take.

Yeah, I'm guilty, too. I get personal on occasion. I'll try to do better, 'cause it seems that everytime I meet an "adversary" in person, he turns out to be an o.k. guy.

See ya'll on another thread.

It is the perceived anonymity of the internet that allows the adrook's of the world to exercise a faux bravado that leads them to call people names, without even having to post their location. It is a dangerous thing to do, as there are methods available to locate internet posters, and it may confidently be presumed that all posters on AR are not emotionally stable.

For instance, the use of the words gutpile, shooting and Lion in the same sentence has a tendency to attract my wrath. But I still recommend the use of caution in a posters tone.

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Originally posted by LionHunter:
It is the perceived anonymity of the internet that allows the adrook's of the world to exercise a faux bravado that leads them to call people names, without even having to post their location. It is a dangerous thing to do, as there are methods available to locate internet posters, and it may confidently be presumed that all posters on AR are not emotionally stable.

For instance, the use of the words gutpile, shooting and Lion in the same sentence has a tendency to attract my wrath. But I still recommend the use of caution in a posters tone.

As in:
"The internet allows anyone to voice any opinion they want, and I suggest yours is like a rectum.

Semper Fi"?

and

"Neither reason nor logic nor truth shall deter SGraves155 from his self-appointed rant.

This is worse than the anti-PHC shit that's been floated on AR"

and
" Originally posted by SG Olds:
This reminds me of a saying my dog training buddy uses all the time with dense people:

"Line breeding only works with dogs".



EXACTLY CORRECT!!! "
________________________________

All the above were your (Lionhunter) recent quotes. which way do you want it?


Looks a bit like the Pot calling the Kettle Black--don't it!

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Originally posted by LionHunter:
It is the perceived anonymity of the internet that allows the adrook's of the world to exercise a faux bravado that leads them to call people names, without even having to post their location. It is a dangerous thing to do, as there are methods available to locate internet posters, and it may confidently be presumed that all posters on AR are not emotionally stable.

For instance, the use of the words gutpile, shooting and Lion in the same sentence has a tendency to attract my wrath. But I still recommend the use of caution in a posters tone.

No faux bravado here, I have never been anonymous on here, asshole. Andy Drook, adrook, get it Mr. Lionhunter? That is your real name isn't it?

Reading comprehension is something that is frequently lacking on the internet. The previous two replies provide indisputable confirmation of that fact.

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Originally posted by LionHunter:
Reading comprehension is something that is frequently lacking on the internet. The previous two replies provide indisputable confirmation of that fact.

They show you are actually more guilty of what you accuse others of doing than they are. And that you can't comprehend it even when it is laid out flat before your eyes.

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Originally posted by Jeff Wemmer:

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...who shows up with his 13 posts and his big guy attitude because he films Craig Boddington with a video camera and takes exception to anyone who criticizes CB. Apparently because he's in the television industry he knows a lot more than the rest of us regular hunters. I wonder if he wipes Boddington's ass for him in addition to kissing it?

Well now, hoss, I reckon you're a pretty "tough" guy, spouting off like that. Question is, would you say that to Dave's face, or are you just another "cyber-wuss" that cowers in the safe vastness of the worldwide web.

And yes, we DO stick together!

Thought so,

JW

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Originally posted by Jeff Wemmer:

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...who shows up with his 13 posts and his big guy attitude because he films Craig Boddington with a video camera and takes exception to anyone who criticizes CB. Apparently because he's in the television industry he knows a lot more than the rest of us regular hunters. I wonder if he wipes Boddington's ass for him in addition to kissing it?

Well now, hoss, I reckon you're a pretty "tough" guy, spouting off like that. Question is, would you say that to Dave's face, or are you just another "cyber-wuss" that cowers in the safe vastness of the worldwide web.

And yes, we DO stick together!

Thought so,

JW

I'd have no problem saying it to his, yours, or anyone else's, spare me the machismo.

I don't like Boddington's writing. I don't like his style, I find it dry and boring, I think he is cheesy on camera, and I think most of his articles read as though they were written by the marketing department of whatever company made the rifle, scope, binoc, etc that he happens to be using at the time. If you guys don't like my opinion I don't give a shit. I'm entitled to it and it is every bit as valid as anybody else's on here.

as to your opinion, you are certainly entitled to it. as to its validity, well, let's just say that that is another matter entirely.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
as to your opinion, you are certainly entitled to it. as to its validity, well, let's just say that that is another matter entirely.

You can stop now jdollar, you've earned your ass kissing points with CB and his cameraman. Maybe he'll even recognize your name, or pretend to, if you go to Reno next year and wait in line to shake his hand.

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You can stop now jdollar, you've earned your ass kissing points with CB and his cameraman. Maybe he'll even recognize your name, or pretend to, if you go to Reno next year and wait in line to shake his hand.

Adrookie,

At least we do agree that Dan should be allowed back on the forum.

But, dang man your manners, well, suck! Busting on CB is passe, every icon has it's detractors, but if you really got to know Dave and the Safari Classics guys, you might figure out that these are exceptionally motivated and talented people plying their craft for all to see and enjoy - what's this angst you radiate???

It's all good man! (there Judge G I'm on "stay")

JW

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Originally posted by Jeff Wemmer:

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You can stop now jdollar, you've earned your ass kissing points with CB and his cameraman. Maybe he'll even recognize your name, or pretend to, if you go to Reno next year and wait in line to shake his hand.

Adrookie,

At least we do agree that Dan should be allowed back on the forum.

But, dang man your manners, well, suck! Busting on CB is passe, every icon has it's detractors, but if you really got to know Dave and the Safari Classics guys, you might figure out that these are exceptionally motivated and talented people plying their craft for all to see and enjoy - what's this angst you radiate???

It's all good man! (there Judge G I'm on "stay")

JW

About Dave and Safari Classics, you may very well be right, I have never met the man. I agree that it is good that folks are at least producing videos for people to enjoy,especially in this age of political correctness and PETA.

You agree that Dan should be let back on the forum. Hell yeah, we have some common ground there.

Cheers,
Andy

Haven't we already been here?

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Originally posted by dogcat:
I really take issue with thinking that doing what CB does is have fun hunting. What he does and what Ivan Carter does is hard, butt busting work. It is pleasure for us, but I would say that after 60 days in the bush making videos, each of us would be ready to go back to our regular job.

If you think it is easy or fun, then why are there not more people out there doing it? In the US or Canada, no problem - you can buy a camera and make movies and attempt to sell them. Africa is a different deal- more problems, more logistics, more expense.

Wow, you make it sound like someone's twisting their arms, or there isn't another videographer position open in the states. That's so sad. I guess it's another sign of the tough times ahead.

Mike Rowe is always looking for candidates for his "Dirty Jobs" Discovery Channel show. Someone should nominate these hard, butt-busting videographers and PH's. Then all the chicken pluckers and ditch diggers can be thankful for how easy they have it.

um, guys, get a life... Phil

For those who haven't discovered it yet, there is a really cool feature here that you might be interested in. If you get sick of reading the excrement that some members here call "posts", you can click on their member name and choose "add to my ignore list".

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For those who haven't discovered it yet, there is a really cool feature here that you might be interested in. If you get sick of reading the excrement that some members here call "posts", you can click on their member name and choose "add to my ignore list".

Ahh man, that ain't no fun!

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Originally posted by Jeff Wemmer:

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For those who haven't discovered it yet, there is a really cool feature here that you might be interested in. If you get sick of reading the excrement that some members here call "posts", you can click on their member name and choose "add to my ignore list".

Ahh man, that ain't no fun!

Right but my blood pressure went down 40 points when I added 3 well known PITAs on the political forum to the ignore list.

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Originally posted by chipolopolo:
I simply agreed with Sgraves155 and got hammered for it

No, you and the rest of us are free to vocie opinions on myriad issues. If some disagree so be it, after all this is a FORUM where folks posit all kinds of opinions and thoughts. BUT EXPECT "hammered" when you post lies (there's no other word for it) about your outfitter telling you that Craig went over and pressured him for free hunts.

That's a made up bold faced lie (from you or your outfitter "friend") and you know it. It's that simple. You lie and you'll get "hammered" jorge

Jorge, which one is Carmello and which one is Cats???

Mike

Sadly, neither.
Carmello: JoeyBones
CATS: 2th doc/2thdoc

jorge

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Originally posted by retreever:
Jorge, which one is Carmello and which one is Cats???

Mike

I know Chipolopolo personally and he is no troll, i.e Carmelo or Cats, but rather is a very experienced African hunter with a lot to offer. Steve is the real deal.

if he has lots to offer, then this forum is in real trouble. but then again, i am not convinced that you and cowchip aren't the same person( see previous post about Michael/Janet Jackson) obviously you and he are BOSOM buddies- reference yours and his previous posts complete with numerous pictures from your gay pride collection of photos. oops, i forgot- you just happened to find them on the internet. well, what the hell- to each his own.

whats really sad is guys like CB actually do good for the hunting industry and people still slack them off. He does nothing illegal or unethical and hes writting and TV shows encourage people to hunt and give them vital information on their next safari. I have the upmost respect for the man.

I read alot an post alittle. I like to talk substance, thats when I post. I don't waste my time with BS like this and the only reason I'm posting is to say YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF GIRLS.