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Only the dog new what was coming! I have no information on this video. I have received multiple copies from members, and thanks to all who have sent them. | ||
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This is a classic scenario for the use of a big bore double rifle....  | |||
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Yes, a 600 NE and giving the buffalo a choice how to die!  | |||
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It is true what Mark Sullivan says.It is better to wait until the buff is close then put the bullet in the brain-with a stopper of course.It is not easy to wait but if you don't this will be the outcome. | |||
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That PH is carrying a suppressed, scoped rifle. Among all the other issues with this video, I'm really wondering if that PH is backing up the client with an adequate caliber... 300 WM is probably not adequate... | |||
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Buffalo was wounded with a crossbow the day before - the guy who walks in the back with the phone filming is the guy who gutshot the buff. The PH is carrying a scoped 375 and the dude that got drilled is carrying a 243 to stop a wounded buffalo. Didn't work so well. Happened here in SA, Eastern Cape | |||
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I can see the fence posts in the background. Almost as bad as the one wounded by Mark Sullivan's client using a 500 or something n similar and had to be followed for several hours!  Shot a buffalo, or any animal, badly, and you can expect something to happen. I home no one got seriously hurt. I don't think much of the man who wounded it not finishing it off himself with a rifle! | |||
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Saeed Leaving MS out of this, don’t you agree a double at close quarters would have been ideal in this situation? Bear in mind they both shot and failed to stop the buff with one shot from the bolt guns.... | |||
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Sullivan and his client both had doubles. Both I think shot at the buffalo, several times. Still needed hours of tracking! | |||
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I’m not familiar with the MS video you mention. I do agree that one well placed shot is all that It would take to end this though. It can be done with a bolt gun, but I would be more comfortable with my double in this scenario though. | |||
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243 for a stopper, Yeah that ought to work. Here, hold my beer! Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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Evidently the fence didn't make the buffalo any less dangerous... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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This "hunt' is so fucked up in so many ways | |||
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None of them look like they have ever had any experience with DBG let alone a cape buffalo. ~Ann   | |||
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And not too far from a paved highway; you can hear the cars. | |||
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Those fellas could learn a thing or two from this fella: https://video.search.yahoo.com...35873e6e&action=view  | |||
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Its all about "shot placement" old chap, "shot placement" - Hell's bells some people have allegedly shot Elephant with a .22  | |||
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I didn't know whether to laugh or cry watching this video. Maybe both? Just plain stupid people doing stupid things, and paying a price for it. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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DArcy said it best! I think the best use of the 243 would have been to put one’s self out of misery before the buffalo could. Then, what about that last shot into the buffalo. Hard to tell from the video, but if things were a little ‘off’, I could imagine him hitting the fellow on the ground. Total cluster fuck. | |||
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Saw this one a while back pretty bad “hunt” White Mountains Arizona | |||
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I would rather go up against this fenced buff than one of those mean, wild, Makuti buffs.  | |||
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Thanks all for the entertaining comments - you saved me the pain and time of watching the video. NRA Life Benefactor Member, DRSS, DWWC, Whittington Center,Android Reloading Ballistics App at http://www.xplat.net/ | |||
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Wearing ball caps, camo and using a suppressor, PHILLISTINES! USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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A friend sent me this. “Saeed, please tell them a 243 Winchester is not good enough for Africa’s varmints!” | |||
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Jorge, do you wear a pith helmet? "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Cow or bull? Bob | |||
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The story I got sent from a friend in SA was the bull was wounded the day before with a crossbow by the guy in camo filming. PH has a .375 and the guys in jeans with the suppressed, scope rifle was the farm manager, it is a .30-06. The whole scenario is a bit a of balls-up. The yapping dog probably helps.. reminds me of a CBL hunt video where the PH's pet vervet monkey is jumping on and off people while they are in the final approach and trying to get a shot at the lion... | |||
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Yeah I heard it was a 30-06 as well. Was it drone filmed? I guess they thought they were making a classic film  White Mountains Arizona | |||
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Had to watch it again. It is a true classic with the cars and fence yapping dog and a bunch of clueless “hunters”. Lucky the buff was hurt pretty bad and no one got shot White Mountains Arizona | |||
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If one looks closely one can see the hole in the right ear where the name tag was | |||
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Missed that detail. Need to watch again hahaha White Mountains Arizona | |||
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Never believe a farm Buffalo on the prod isn't as Dangerous as a wild one, They have mostly lost all fear of man, and they get hammered year around..A buff is a buff, hurt him and he will run, run him to much and he will fight, same with most DG, you can easily become the hunted... RSA farmers make not good PHs for the most part and yes their are a few exceptions, not not a hell of a lot..Every farmer in RSA seems to have a PH license these days.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Exactly. Despite all that has been pointed out (fences, roads, ear tag, etc.), the fact of the matter is that the animal attacked with vigor - period. And yes, it was a goat rope... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Bull bovines are always dangerous. Don’t turn your back on one at the ranch... White Mountains Arizona | |||
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I bet a wild buffalo would have caused more damage. Ultimately, I am glad no one suffered serious injury. | |||
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It was a Mark Sullivan hunt. Obviously Mark shot at it as well as the client. Or maybe you're questioning if Mark even let his client shoot this time? | |||
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I thought that it was an Eastern Cape buffalo . I saw another video with the guy getting run over by a buffalo. Same type of terrain. To have the buffalo get you in that area takes some big time mistakes .. IMO.. | |||
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Just saw an ad for Ro’an Van Tonder selling 2 yes 2 captive bred 50” hybrid buffs so you too can get gored and made fun of if you screw up and video gets online Must be a big moneymaker down yonder White Mountains Arizona | |||
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Somehow the man that the buff got in contact with didn't think to get behind the tree. He was between the buff and a hard spot making injury all the more likely but I would say he probably came out of it o'k. Well yes, the double rifle was made specifically just for an event like this. I have no problem with any ph carrying a double rifle in an area where there is DG present. | |||
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