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That said I think a truly wild one would move even faster and be much stronger especially if he has to fight lions and deal with other such hardships.


At least it wasn't a cow. I understand that even the truly wild Cape buff cows just want to be patted on the head and hand fed. Is that what you have found, shootaway? hilbily


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That said I think a truly wild one would move even faster and be much stronger especially if he has to fight lions and deal with other such hardships.


At least it wasn't a cow. I understand that even the truly wild Cape buff cows just want to be patted on the head and hand fed. Is that what you have found, shootaway? hilbily


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That buffalo was suffering for 24 hours before these stumble-bums show up with a right hand 30-06 right hand scoped rifle in the hands of a left hand shooter


Now now Mac, nothing wrong with a leftie using a RH bolt gun, the problem here was the lefty was completely incompetent in using the RH bolt gun. I've never seen any lefty attempting to reload a bolt gun in that fashion as that guy did. Wink



Outside the rifle being a 30-06 caliber,scoped, and suppressed, my point exactly!

This same crew would have done exactly the same if the whole thing had happened in a real hunting concession. BLIND LEADING THE BLIND!

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The point I was making earlier, Mac, is that you are not going to see that with a "real PH" - you find it in RSA because anyone with land and a high fence can apparently buy animals and sell "hunts."

I have only shot 8 buff on four hunts in Tanz, but in no case did my PH have anything other than an open sighted bolt action or a double rifle. Two of my hunts were with Luke Samaris; you think he would tolerate that stuff in his PHs?


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And there are still many hunters that will continue to book these hunts conducted by totally unprepared PH's on small fenced properties because they are cheap.

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I may be wrong in this as it's been awhile since I hunted RSA, but I was under the impression that one can't PH a DG hunt just by being the ranch owner.

I say this as the guy I hunted with on my first two hunts was a new PH. Young guy and really good at what he did. On the first hunt, he had a Restricted DG license allowing him to hunt buffalo and leopard. On the second trip, the following year, he had gained Unrestricted DG status, allowing him to hunt Lion and Elephant. At least that's what I remember him saying but that's been quite a few years back now and I could be mistaken. That said, when we hunted buffalo on the first trip, the ranch owner did go afield with us the first couple of days but he was there more to show us the lay of the land. He wasn't armed. I didn't score on my buff until the 4th day.

My experience with the RSA ranch buffalo hunts is that they are anything but guaranteed. Did 3 hunts, took 2 buffalo. As mentioned above, scored on the 4th day 1st hunt. Didn't get one on the second hunt although we chased buff every day for 5 days. Could have with a scoped 375, but I was hunting with an open sighted double. Mucho fun!!! Third time, took one on the 6th day of chasing them all day, every day, again with an open sighted double.

It depends greatly on the ranch. All of the one's I did were on large properties where the buff had been hunted quite a bit. They were every bit as switched on as any concession hunt I've done. They knew what the sound of a cruiser meant. They knew what the smell, sight, or sound of people on foot meant. They didn't take the time to look you over. One hint of your presence and they were off and running.

RSA ranch buffalo hunts? Nope, not the same as a concession hunt for free ranging buffalo, but plenty of fun and excitement, especially for the price, which again, was what I could afford at the time. Again, I'm glad there are pricing options and experiences for different financial abilities. Had a guy make a statement here on AR a few months back when discussing Tanzania hunts, that my hunting Zim was akin to guys bragging about driving a high end luxury car when in fact, it was purchased from the used car lot. I got a kick out of that comment. I've enjoyed quite a few used cars!!! Probably will continue to do so!

Bottom line is a buffalo can be dangerous when wounded. Doesn't matter if free ranging or on a Ranch. Hit him wrong and the chance is there to get more than you bargained for. Going after a wounded buff without being properly prepared and equipped, either in the form of weapon or knowledge of how to handle the situation, and you might end up on the short end of the stick.
 
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The ranch I took my boy to Mt Carmel safaris northern cape that I won at antelope auction was 60,000 acres plus free range kudu etc on some other land very large. Was quite wild. I’ve heard of 2000 acre and less concessions. I would avoid those


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Bottom line is a buffalo can be dangerous when wounded. Doesn't matter if free ranging or on a Ranch. Hit him wrong and the chance is there to get more than you bargained for. Going after a wounded buff without being properly prepared and equipped, either in the form of weapon or knowledge of how to handle the situation, and you might end up on the short end of the stick.


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A cape buffalo that has a hole in his hide put there by a hunter, or another animal is a very dangerous animal when he feels threatened by anything getting too close, and will most likely charge anything that he feels threatened by, regardless if he is in a hunting ranch, large concession, or in a zoo. None of those factors will change his mind if he feels threatened. I dare anyone here to get inside a zoo enclosure with a cape buffalo that has been hurt by anything. 25 feet square pen, or a 25 thousand acre concession and get into his fight or flight space, without the proper means of defense.

IMO, when you confront him in front, the fact that a fence is behind a wounded cape buffalo even makes him far more likely to take you to task for your intrusion of his space.


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I may be wrong in this as it's been awhile since I hunted RSA, but I was under the impression that one can't PH a DG hunt just by being the ranch owner.

I say this as the guy I hunted with on my first two hunts was a new PH. Young guy and really good at what he did. On the first hunt, he had a Restricted DG license allowing him to hunt buffalo and leopard. On the second trip, the following year, he had gained Unrestricted DG status, allowing him to hunt Lion and Elephant. At least that's what I remember him saying but that's been quite a few years back now and I could be mistaken. That said, when we hunted buffalo on the first trip, the ranch owner did go afield with us the first couple of days but he was there more to show us the lay of the land. He wasn't armed. I didn't score on my buff until the 4th day.

My experience with the RSA ranch buffalo hunts is that they are anything but guaranteed. Did 3 hunts, took 2 buffalo. As mentioned above, scored on the 4th day 1st hunt. Didn't get one on the second hunt although we chased buff every day for 5 days. Could have with a scoped 375, but I was hunting with an open sighted double. Mucho fun!!! Third time, took one on the 6th day of chasing them all day, every day, again with an open sighted double.

It depends greatly on the ranch. All of the one's I did were on large properties where the buff had been hunted quite a bit. They were every bit as switched on as any concession hunt I've done. They knew what the sound of a cruiser meant. They knew what the smell, sight, or sound of people on foot meant. They didn't take the time to look you over. One hint of your presence and they were off and running.

RSA ranch buffalo hunts? Nope, not the same as a concession hunt for free ranging buffalo, but plenty of fun and excitement, especially for the price, which again, was what I could afford at the time. Again, I'm glad there are pricing options and experiences for different financial abilities. Had a guy make a statement here on AR a few months back when discussing Tanzania hunts, that my hunting Zim was akin to guys bragging about driving a high end luxury car when in fact, it was purchased from the used car lot. I got a kick out of that comment. I've enjoyed quite a few used cars!!! Probably will continue to do so!

Bottom line is a buffalo can be dangerous when wounded. Doesn't matter if free ranging or on a Ranch. Hit him wrong and the chance is there to get more than you bargained for. Going after a wounded buff without being properly prepared and equipped, either in the form of weapon or knowledge of how to handle the situation, and you might end up on the short end of the stick.


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Everyone seems to be concentrating on the unqualified professional hunter.

How about the genius who shot it?

Shooting it with a crossbow, gut shooting it, and then stay in the back while others put their lives on the line for him?

Shows real guts.

Especially for one not using a rifle to kill a pet, farm grown buffalo.

I remember Mark Sullivan saying in his video that hunting farm bred, tagged buffalo was the best buffalo hunt he has ever done! rotflmo

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From Murray State University in WESTERN KENTUCKY, get it? Cowboys/Rodeo Clowns? "Thank you Murray Kentucky!"
Strange things happen there.
A lady visiting the MSU campus a few months ago was struck by lightning and died.
Not funny, but those rodeo clown competitions are.

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Those fellas could learn a thing or two from this fella:


https://video.search.yahoo.com...35873e6e&action=view


Cool

Strange things happen in RSA too, eh?
Looks like a first rodeo for these cowboys/clowns:

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Only the dog new what was coming!

The third guy (unarmed, wearing black-paneled camo, waddling behind the two "riflemen"): was he carrying a camera or a coffee cup?
We did not get to see his footage, maybe he dropped the camera and went into rodeo clown mode,
getting in position to leapfrog the bull?

The fourth guy was on the termite mound overlooking, filming with his cellphone camera, vocalizing soto voce only at the end of the clip "OH MY GOD."
Appropriate narration.
Could have been stated earlier.

So who wounded the buff with a crossbow?
The guy on the termite mound with a cellphone camera, or the rodeo clown tagging along below?

Let me see if I got this straight:

The RSA PH is the lefthand shooter with a righthand, big-scoped, CZ 550 Magnum .375 H&H, wearing the duckhunter camo suit?

The farmhand/manager is carrying a big-scoped, suppressed .30-06, wearing bluejeans?

OK, even Roy Vincent is a lefty who uses a righthand Mauser chambered in .450 Vincent.
But I bet he reloads like eagle27, keeping rifle on the shoulder.

In the seconds from 1:08 to 1:23, 15 seconds, they got off 6 shots, three shots each,
the slow-reloading lefty firing the first shot, and the last shot, while the farmhand was rolling on the ground,
not a high scoring rodeo clown technique,
but sometimes saves bacon.

That little terrier luvvin' on the tracker's leg,
or just tugging protectively on the pants leg: Man's best friend.
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