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Originally posted by Leopardtrack:
All hero worship as well as criticism aside...dosent 4 marriages and a bankruptcy put up a red flag for any of you blindly defending CB's character?

I have allot of respect for what he has accomplished and for what he has done for our sport, but the aforementioned dosent sit well with me. Until it is resolved one way or the other I will keep a suspicious eye on CB.

I'm sure he is aware of what's going on lately with this thread lately so maybe it's time for CB to speak up and put it all to rest.

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Notice I stayed out of this, even though Saeed ( no foul boss) re posted Evarts accusation that my partner Tim was the BODDINGTON HITS ROCK BOTTOM thread starter, which was a outright lie by the way. He will see me at SHOT SHOW, he is very welcome to start that again in person. If he does, it will be newsworthy I promise.
I think Larry Shores is a standup guy, like all who actually know him will attest to. That seems to be a thread here. Perhaps it is better to make opinions on people YOU KNOW, than to form ironclad opinions based on a handshake and autograph at SCI. I'll say this, I worked one season filming for Sullivan before starting my own outfit, and he paid his bill! And no, bankruptcy is not one wrong move away from me, or the majority of people on AR, or anywhere I believe. I owe no one, do not spend money I do not have, live within my means, and ask no one to pick up my tab,from a sandwich to a safari. In my opinion good decisions become a habit, so do bad ones. Happy Holidays to the AR family.

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Notice I stayed out of this, even though Saeed ( no foul boss) re posted Evarts accusation that my partner Tim was the BODDINGTON HITS ROCK BOTTOM thread starter, which was a outright lie by the way. He will see me at SHOT SHOW, he is very welcome to start that again in person. If he does, it will be newsworthy I promise.
I think Larry Shores is a standup guy, like all who actually know him will attest to. That seems to be a thread here. Perhaps it is better to make opinions on people YOU KNOW, than to form ironclad opinions based on a handshake and autograph at SCI. I'll say this, I worked one season filming for Sullivan before starting my own outfit, and he paid his bill! And no, bankruptcy is not one wrong move away from me, or the majority of people on AR, or anywhere I believe. I owe no one, do not spend money I do not have, live within my means, and ask no one to pick up my tab,from a sandwich to a safari. In my opinion good decisions become a habit, so do bad ones. Happy Holidays to the AR family.

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Originally posted by mdstewart:

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Notice I stayed out of this, even though Saeed ( no foul boss) re posted Evarts accusation that my partner Tim was the BODDINGTON HITS ROCK BOTTOM thread starter, which was a outright lie by the way. He will see me at SHOT SHOW, he is very welcome to start that again in person. If he does, it will be newsworthy I promise.
I think Larry Shores is a standup guy, like all who actually know him will attest to. That seems to be a thread here. Perhaps it is better to make opinions on people YOU KNOW, than to form ironclad opinions based on a handshake and autograph at SCI. I'll say this, I worked one season filming for Sullivan before starting my own outfit, and he paid his bill! And no, bankruptcy is not one wrong move away from me, or the majority of people on AR, or anywhere I believe. I owe no one, do not spend money I do not have, live within my means, and ask no one to pick up my tab,from a sandwich to a safari. In my opinion good decisions become a habit, so do bad ones. Happy Holidays to the AR family.

Dave,

Good post. You are so lucky that all is good in life; but I promise you that it only takes one accident/incident for your personal fortune to go away real fast. Maybe a hunting accident, a heart attack, a false claim, anything (especially in your business). Just let these attorneys get ahold of your hide, and you'll be wasting your fortune on attorney fees, court cost, restitution, fines, etc. And you don't even have to be guilty. None of them care about your personal guilt or innocence. It's all about the MONEY. So be "VERRRY VERRRY CAREFUL, as taken from a popular 60's cartoon.

And for the second time, I never said Larry was not a stand up guy; I just think he stepped on it with his posting of unsubstantiated reports against CB. There is absolutely no evidence that CB did anything wrong here; it's just heresay. What say you; do you know the real scoop.

And please don't give me the ole "where there's smoke there's fire" crap. I could accuse anyone on this forum of being involved with a male prostitute, say I saw them in Vegas at SCI, and there are many (if not most here) who would believe it. Saying something over and over again does not make it the truth. Let's see the charges filed against CB, his wife, his hunting party, or get off it.

I know you have personal/business issues involved in this discussion. It's funny how we all see things depending on the chair we are sitting in.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by mdstewart:

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Notice I stayed out of this, even though Saeed ( no foul boss) re posted Evarts accusation that my partner Tim was the BODDINGTON HITS ROCK BOTTOM thread starter, which was a outright lie by the way. He will see me at SHOT SHOW, he is very welcome to start that again in person. If he does, it will be newsworthy I promise.
I think Larry Shores is a standup guy, like all who actually know him will attest to. That seems to be a thread here. Perhaps it is better to make opinions on people YOU KNOW, than to form ironclad opinions based on a handshake and autograph at SCI. I'll say this, I worked one season filming for Sullivan before starting my own outfit, and he paid his bill! And no, bankruptcy is not one wrong move away from me, or the majority of people on AR, or anywhere I believe. I owe no one, do not spend money I do not have, live within my means, and ask no one to pick up my tab,from a sandwich to a safari. In my opinion good decisions become a habit, so do bad ones. Happy Holidays to the AR family.

Dave,

Good post. You are so lucky that all is good in life; but I promise you that it only takes one accident/incident for your personal fortune to go away real fast. Maybe a hunting accident, a heart attack, a false claim, anything (especially in your business). Just let these attorneys get ahold of your hide, and you'll be wasting your fortune on attorney fees, court cost, restitution, fines, etc. And you don't even have to be guilty. None of them care about your personal guilt or innocence. It's all about the MONEY. So be "VERRRY VERRRY CAREFUL, as taken from a popular 60's cartoon.

And for the second time, I never said Larry was not a stand up guy; I just think he stepped on it with his posting of unsubstantiated reports against CB. There is absolutely no evidence that CB did anything wrong here; it's just heresay. What say you; do you know the real scoop.

And please don't give me the ole "where there's smoke there's fire" crap. I could accuse anyone on this forum of being involved with a male prostitute, say I saw them in Vegas at SCI, and there are many (if not most here) who would believe it. Saying something over and over again does not make it the truth. Let's see the charges filed against CB, his wife, his hunting party, or get off it.

I know you have personal/business issues involved in this discussion. It's funny how we all see things depending on the chair we are sitting in.

Or to finally go to dukes with someone after making physical threats to numerous people on this forum since I've been around.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Dave has made veiled threats to folks on this forum since I've been around.

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Originally posted by KPete:
Having labored through the now 13 pages of this thread I've come to several conclusions:

First, the pious handwringing and unctuous moral outrage from some AR members on here borders on the nauseating. When I read a book about safari or hunting, I don't give a damn how many times the writer has been married or how muddled his finances may be. What business is it of mine – and why should it affect my enjoyment of his writing?

Second, in many ways Craig is arguably this generation's Ruark, Capstick or O'Connor, having contributed an extraordinary legacy of highly-accessible books and articles that continue to foster interest and growth in hunting. Is he a perfect man? No, a fact made particularly acute as someone who lives in the public eye. That said, how many of us are perfect or could withstand such ceaseless scrutiny?

Here is a man who is an outstanding ambassador for our sport, who's writings, television appearances, and lectures serve to educate both hunters and the non-hunting public alike and advance hunting. Is it really necessary for us to publicly vilify him for being married more than once; for having had business problems; and, maybe, having mistakenly relied upon his professional hunter to possess the proper license?

You don't have to be a fan-boy or celebrity-loving sychophant to recognize that unless you're his ex-wife or business partner, Craig Boddington's marriages and bankruptcy have shit to do with the rest of us. Just because someone is a public figure – or posts on AR – doesn't mean it's justified to paste a target on their back and attack them for matters that are none of our concern.

Perhaps, if only during this holiday season, we should apply simple human decency before feeling compelled to type out that next scathing rebuke about "one of us".

Best wishes to each of you for the coming year.

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With friends like some of you buggers who needs enemies !

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+1 never met Craig but think some guys are being seriously critical.
How many hunters when arriving in Africa or bum F#%€£ nowhere know if they are on legal hunting areas or not ?
And his finances !! Come on guys , give the bugger a break.
We forget HE started this out of HONESTY . now you guys wanna crucify him ?

With friends like some of you buggers who needs enemies !

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Originally posted by KPete:

. . . pious handwringing . . .

. . . unctuous moral outrage . . .

. . . borders on the nauseating . . .

. . . publicly vilify . . .

. . . a fan-boy or celebrity-loving sychophant . . .

. . . have shit to do with the rest of us . . .

Perhaps, if only during this holiday season, we should apply simple human decency before feeling compelled to type out that next scathing rebuke about "one of us".

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Originally posted by KPete:
Having labored through the now 13 pages of this thread I've come to several conclusions:

First, the pious handwringing and unctuous moral outrage from some AR members on here borders on the nauseating. When I read a book about safari or hunting, I don't give a damn how many times the writer has been married or how muddled his finances may be. What business is it of mine – and why should it affect my enjoyment of his writing?

Second, in many ways Craig is arguably this generation's Ruark, Capstick or O'Connor, having contributed an extraordinary legacy of highly-accessible books and articles that continue to foster interest and growth in hunting. Is he a perfect man? No, a fact made particularly acute as someone who lives in the public eye. That said, how many of us are perfect or could withstand such ceaseless scrutiny?

Here is a man, however, who is an outstanding ambassador for our sport, and who's writings, television appearances, and lectures serve to educate both hunters and the non-hunting public alike advancing hunting in the process. Is it really necessary for us to publicly vilify him for being married more than once; for having had business problems; and, maybe, just maybe, having mistakenly relied upon his professional hunter to possess the proper license?

You don't have to be a fan-boy or celebrity-loving sychophant to recognize that, unless you're his ex-wife or ex-business partner, Craig Boddington's marriages and bankruptcy have shit to do with the rest of us. Just because someone is a public figure – or posts on AR – doesn't mean it's justified to paste a target on their back and attack them for matters that are none of our concern.

Perhaps, if only during this holiday season, we should apply simple human decency before feeling compelled to type out that next scathing rebuke about "one of us".

Best wishes to each of you for the coming year.

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
I think this has to be the "WORST" thread ever on AR. AT least it is the "WORST" one for 2013 for sure!! Typical in lots of ways, uniformed folks spouting off, flawed information, personal integrity attacks, personal physical threats, biased opinions, jealously, envy, all the stuff for a low life reality show!! No wonder this Country is going down the tubes with this kind of attitudes towards our fellow man/hunters.

Hopefully a change for the good in the New Year? Happy Holidays everyone.

Larry Sellers
SCI (International) Life Member

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Let me be crystal clear.

My comments and postings relate to the ALLEGATION that CB participated in an illegal hunt.
There clearly has been an ALLEGATION.

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Originally posted by Trax:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Let me be crystal clear.

My comments and postings relate to the ALLEGATION that CB participated in an illegal hunt.
There clearly has been an ALLEGATION.

The person making the illegal hunt allegation concerning a Boddington, contacted an appropriate NT gov. department/authority.
and that person was NOT Larryshores!

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Originally posted by larryshores:
I have to wonder why CB went on another hunt with Pennicott after all of this had started.

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Originally posted by KPete:
Having labored through the now 13 pages of this thread I've come to several conclusions:

First, the pious handwringing and unctuous moral outrage from some AR members on here borders on the nauseating. When I read a book about safari or hunting, I don't give a damn how many times the writer has been married or how muddled his finances may be. What business is it of mine – and why should it affect my enjoyment of his writing?

Second, in many ways Craig is arguably this generation's Ruark, Capstick or O'Connor, having contributed an extraordinary legacy of highly-accessible books and articles that continue to foster interest and growth in hunting. Is he a perfect man? No, a fact made particularly acute as someone who lives in the public eye. That said, how many of us are perfect or could withstand such ceaseless scrutiny?

Here is a man, however, who is an outstanding ambassador for our sport, and who's writings, television appearances, and lectures serve to educate both hunters and the non-hunting public alike advancing hunting in the process. Is it really necessary for us to publicly vilify him for being married more than once; for having had business problems; and, maybe, just maybe, having mistakenly relied upon his professional hunter to possess the proper license?

You don't have to be a fan-boy or celebrity-loving sychophant to recognize that, unless you're his ex-wife or ex-business partner, Craig Boddington's marriages and bankruptcy have shit to do with the rest of us. Just because someone is a public figure – or posts on AR – doesn't mean it's justified to paste a target on their back and attack them for matters that are none of our concern.

Perhaps, if only during this holiday season, we should apply simple human decency before feeling compelled to type out that next scathing rebuke about "one of us".

Best wishes to each of you for the coming year.

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.I know CB and he is the best hunting writer we have ever had

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Originally posted by lavaca:
KPete,

You have hit a new high in reading AR posts; you made me go to a dictionary. I thought I had a rather good command of the English language, but "unctuous"? "Unctuous" -- Smooth and greasy in texture. Now that's a $10 word!