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Originally posted by larryshores:
Yup. The other thing is the repeated refer to trophy hunting. We need to erase that phrase from our vocabulary .

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Originally posted by bcap:
I hope we learn something from this. If you see as of the last few days they seem to have gave up on the votes and just a few keep trying to say stupid stuff.

This should just show looking the other way or being scared to fight fire with fire back on any social media stuff is not the way we should handle the anti's. Fight backing sure seemed to shut them down after just a few days

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
Winning an internet vote won't stop the snowball from becoming an avalanche

Money......and lots of it......and not towards your next hunt


It's how battles are won and lost....

Sticking your head in the sand puts your assistance in the air

The NRA doesn't keep what's left of our USA gun rights by shaking their fist

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Originally posted by larryshores:
A serious fight has started. Have you seen the TV commercials slamming the HSUS? Those are serious messages reaching millions.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL - DO NOT FORWARD

Dear Friends,

In just over 48 hours, Anthony Licata and I will face off against HSUS and Born Free USA, in New York City, on the debate program Intelligence Squared. While it should be beyond debate, the contributions of hunters to conservation will be questioned in front of a live audience and via web and podcast. We have every intention of making it clear, once again, that wildlife is valuable, that hunters are the keystone on which wildlife conservation depends and that to remove us from the landscape would only hasten the extinction of many wildlife species across the globe.

Thanks to your efforts, and the efforts of your organizations, we already have our debate opponents on the defensive. A global action cycle has allowed us to maintain a 50 percentage point lead over our opponents in the pre-debate online poll - even after duplicate votes were scrubbed from the record. The frustration of our opposition is evident in the comments section and the venom being spewed there has led debate organizers to hire extra security for the event.

I know most of you are unable to join us in New York City on Wednesday, but you can still help us shape the environment and make the evening a pivot point for the conservation movement.

We are asking supporters to Live Tweet the event as it happens so that our key points are re-enforced and our opponents misinformation and missteps are highlighted.

You can do this by tuning into the livestream of the debate on Wednesday, May 4 at 6:45pm Eastern. The livestream will be available at http://intelligencesquaredus.o...rs-conserve-wildlife

As you Tweet we ask that you use the hashtags #ConservationRising and that you "cc" @IQ2US . Copying the Intelligence Squared Twitter feed on your tweets will increase the chances that the debate organizers Re-Tweet our messages.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words, I have developed some visuals to assist with your Live Tweeting efforts. They are attached. Some are fairly straightforward, some utilize popular memes to make a point. Please use them as you see fit.

Wednesday night will be a pivot point for our movement, one in which we seize the offensive so that we secure the world's wildlife and with it, our hunting heritage. Thank you for your support in making this happen.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Best,

Catherine E. Semcer
Chief Operations Officer
Humanitarian Operations Protecting Elephants (H.O.P.E.)
1520 1st St SE
Washington, DC 20003
Cell: 703-772-6972
Web: hopeantipoaching.org
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@CatherineSemce

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The debate was really lost, in my view, due to a large disparity in the quality and passion of the advocates for and against. For some time I have believed that hunting needs a spokesperson(s) that is articulate, polished, knowledgeable and passionate about the issues, e.g., like a Wayne LaPierre on Second Amendment issues. I do not know how the panelists for this event were chosen but certainly the cause could have been better represented. Hunters need a voice in the public arena. I have yet to hear or see someone that fits that role.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Shane is a great writer and personally I do not mind him as a speaker but I have heard others complain that he sort of gives them the creeps. I think of someone like Marc Watts (Bwana Moja). I know that Marc has moved on to other endeavors in life but you had someone that was comfortable being in front of a camera, facile with the media, personable, smart, handsome, a minority . . . and a hunter. When I think of someone who could be a good public face for hunting, someone like that is who comes to mind.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Shane is a great writer and personally I do not mind him as a speaker but I have heard others complain that he sort of gives them the creeps. I think of someone like Marc Watts (Bwana Moja). I know that Marc has moved on to other endeavors in life but you had someone that was comfortable being in front of a camera, facile with the media, personable, smart, handsome, a minority . . . and a hunter. When I think of someone who could be a good public face for hunting, someone like that is who comes to mind.

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Forget about the audience, my question is were the two proponents for the motion the best the hunting community has to offer? I hope not. The case for hunting will not make itself.

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I thought I read somewhere that Marc has distanced himself from his hunting past.