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This should produce some lively debate. Joyce and I will probably return to Africa in 2014. I'd like to hunt leopard and "Bait Babe" would probably do her own thing on bait (but is just as happy as an observer). 1) We like to go to new spots not traveled in the past. 2) We are low maintenance but our personality types would probably wear out an introverted PH. 3) It's all about the experience. 4) Daylight only, no lights. Might think of some other criteria but that should get things started. Cheers Jim ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | ||
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I don't know your budget but I would love to hunt leopard in Ethiopia or CAR. Very expensive but it does sound interesting! | |||
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Jim; If you let the outfitter know about this ahead of time, they will surely charge you extra!!!  D. Nelson | |||
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Well you've hunted Zambia so next option for could be www.africanbushcompany.com in Tanz or www.kambakosafaris.com in Moz | |||
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I'm not sure about our "budget" either Dennis.  The word exotic comes to mind with those suggestions. Thanks for adding them to the mix. Cheers Jim ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Here are a couple for you to look at. You will be responsible for bait animals. www.lakesafaris.com Out of Durban, South Africa in 2011 leopards were after cattle on a ranch and while i was there and they were trying to speed a permit process for me to have a go at one pesky leopard. permit came the day i was leaving. The rancher would have assisted my PH to help with success. www.touchafricasafaris.com out of Zimbabwe I shot bait animals for 2 leopard hunters in Zimbabwe this year and both had shots at leopards in day light hours. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got the strongest hand in the world. That's right. Your hand. The hand that marks the ballot. The hand that pulls the voting lever. Use it, will you" John Wayne | |||
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Wayne Grant in Zimbabwe would be something different. He is a leopard specialist of sorts. Let him pick the exact location. He is known for monster cats. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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http://forums.accuratereloadin...=521103905#521103905 Another vote for Ethiopia, a chance to take a black leopard, beautiful and exotic country, and a high density of big cats. Negative: non-importable to U.S.A. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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Deal breaker but thanks anyway. ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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I only have 4 safaris worth of experience, but totalling 60 days so I've seen a little bit and will offer up a comment. In Zim the Valley area had lots of sign and I did find one cat sleeping in a dry riverbed while hunting ele. Chifuti seemed well set up to do a great hunt. For Namibia, I can recommend either Omujeve or Leopard Legend without reservation. Both would be great hunts, daylight, with high chance of success on some big cats. Some of the most fun and enjoyable people around, too, and definately not introverted!. | |||
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Will Parks (safari-lawyer) seems to have had great success with Thierry from Zambezi Hunters. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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Agreed, but I thought that was in the Save? ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Labat seems to be filling tags wherever he goes | |||
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Certainly exotic, but neither are importable to the US. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Assuming the Save doesn't fall to pieces what's the chances of a day time leopard? From speaking to people who have hunted there it sounds like day time lion are hard enough let alone leopard. Thoughts? Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Damn! Ok what ab about Uganda? | |||
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Right now...Uganda leopard are PAC only. However...there are no shortage of problem leopards...so a hunt could be arranged. That said...to my knowledge...a Ugandan leopard has not been imported into the US since the reopening of hunting. My partner (Nigel Theisen) and I are exploring Ugandan leopard US import as we speak. But right now...it is a question mark. Certainly some fine leopard there however. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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My last trip with Thierry and Zambezi Hunters we saw 2 leopards during the day. One was definitely a female and the other was seen for such a short time that we couldn't tell. It would be tough for a daytime hunt for leopard in the Save' in my humble opinion. If you go to the SCI shows then just stop by and talk to Thierry. He is a GOOD cat man and hunts both Zimbabwe and the CAR. The only easy day is yesterday! | |||
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For day time cat, I would certainly choose Tanzania or Zambia! Anything North of Zambia, will not be importable to the USA...so why bother! USFW said in 2010 that they would never allow leopards to be imported above a line drawn on a map, just north of Zambia(at the SCI wildlife consultative forum, Vic Falls Zimbabwe). | |||
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Frostbit, Both myself & a hunting companion shot "daytime" leopards in Tanzania with Federico Gellini Safaris. There was certainly lots of cats available. I think that Tanzania is a great destination, the only negative is that you will need a 21 day license/safari which is expensive. However, you can also take elephant, 3 buff, sable, eland, lion,... Good luck with your "tough" decision! Jim P.S. For what it's worth, I'm scheduled to hunt with Theirry Labatt in Sango/Save in May 2013 for leopard (if it's still there?) | |||
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Thierry is an active member of this forum and has been posting..... Not sure about the chances of a day-time leopard but we did have several day-time photos of leopards on the bait on my hunt. And the way Thierry knows leopards I would guess he'd have some ideas. And I can guarantee you will have a good time with him but I'm guessing '14 would be a long shot for a leopard opening as I'm currently in line for an opening myself. Best speak to Alistair Pole or Thierry on scheduling if you're interested. AlistairPole@gmail.com. | |||
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Hi In the Zambezi Valley with Chifuti Safaris. We can only hunt leopards in the day time and have had good success on them in recent years. Chewore North in very nice with the Zambezi river as the northern boundary. Theirry Labat is busy doing a hunt at the moment but should be back shortly. He is very good as well. Don't know how many get shot in daylight though. | |||
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I took a daytime leopard with Charlton McCallum Safaris June 2011 in Zim. CMS has a strong reputation on leopard. Monster sized cats as well.  | |||
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I'm surprised Mozambique hasn't been mentioned much yet. It seems as though Kambako Safaris has been scoring on daytime leopards, just ask Tim Herald. Graybird "Make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after ... it's the reckoning." | |||
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Jim, the Niassa would be a great, exotic option for daylight leopards. There's a few good operators in the area that have excellent track records on nice toms. Check out the McLean's are Jumbo Moore's areas. Let me know if you need some info on McLean, not much out there at this point but they're very good. Greg Brownlee Neal and Brownlee, LLC Quality Worldwide Big Game Hunts Since 1975 918/299-3580 greg@NealAndBrownlee.com www.NealAndBrownlee.com Instagram: @NealAndBrownleeLLC Hunt reports: Botswana 2010 Alaska 2011 Bezoar Ibex, Turkey 2012 Mid Asian Ibex, Kyrgyzstan 2014 | |||
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Hi Mark, Allow me to welcome you to AR. Always good to have PH's posting here. Cheers Jim ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Mark Welcome to the AR forum , hope all is well in the valley. Had a great hunt with Mark and Chifuti last year in Chewore South. Killed a very nice leopard and had another nice tom on a lion bait that we saw numerous times in daylight. | |||
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Want a challenge try Norm Crooks (Pro Safari Africa) last I talked with him he is doing only cats - in the West Nicholson, area. Ranch cats in the day with dogs. It is not so easy and not so boring as setting in a blind. | |||
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Glad to have you on board. | |||
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Heard great things from the Leesmays about you, Mark. Welcome, really cool to see more and more PH's showing up on the forums providing valuable "in the field" insight. Great help to all us planning hunts! | |||
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Jim, to get this back on topic rather than a "welcome to" but a daylight hunt in the valley is pretty tough as the leopards are harrassed quite much. I think the advice here is pretty sound and the best daylight cats are either with dogs (not cheap), or in Tanzania and it does take a 21 day which is more even. Frik and Luis Muller, Bruce Watson and Cliff Walker all hunt Rifa and I am not sure but I think cats must be daylight there. They do have a huge success rate and I can help you contact them if you want to talk. Better have a scope on something accurate rather than my old A/N. Also, the recommendation for CMS is always sound but I do not knwo the daylight factor there. Buzz could tell you more. good to hear you are going back over. Larry York, SC | |||
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Mark- It is great that you have become on AR member. The more experienced PH's we have posting here the better. Thierry speaks very highly of you and your abilities. I met you with Thierry and Suzie in that upstairs night club in Harare after my exciting leopard hunt with Thierry where we stalked mister spots through the woods in the darkest night I think I've spent in Zimbabwe. Was a great time. Cheers to you. The only easy day is yesterday! | |||
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Hi Larry, Thanks for the advice. I would rate my .375 as "accurate". Still love shooting your old A&N though. Perhaps a tusker will fall to it in the future. Cheers Jim ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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I may have to hide your .375.......  Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Hi Jim. To clear up a bit of confusion here. The Zambezi Valley is huge. Rifa which is run by the Mullers, Watson and walker is at the top of the Valley, you then got Nyakasanga, then Mana Pools National Park, then Sapi, then Chewore North and South run by Chifuti then Dande North and South. CMS is in Dande North who are our Neighbours. By the way the cats in the vallay have not been harassed as much as in other areas of Zim. In Chewore North I think our success rate is around 90%. | |||
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Selous, Nyassa, Zambezi Valley, Luangwa Valley.....but what do I know? Money wise I'd be looking at the Nyassa and Zambezi Valley....but again that's me with 0 leopard experience. Brett PS> I suppose Nyassa has more unique plains game, but the Zambezi Valley has tuskless and importable bull elephant!!!! DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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As said previously Leopard in Tanzania is a 21 day license but one does not necessarily have to stay for 21 days, some outfitters will give you a deal if you stay for less days, you will have to pay the government fees for 21 days but that does not amount to too much. I would make sure the outfitter acknowledges that you want a day time cat, some my say yeah yeah and once you are there with a night time feeder they may pressure you to take it anyway, but all the PHs mentioned above I would rate as very honest and ethical and wouldn't sell you a hunt that they couldn't provide ie: day time leopard! Professional Hunter GM Danny McCallum Safaris Executive Officer APHA | |||
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I am suprised that no one has mentioned Nuanetsi?? | |||
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Norm Crooks is the Muller boys father-in-law and he (when I hunted with him) hunted the West Nicholson area for ranch cats much smarter than the cats in the valley. All that said Norm is truly a cat man. Peter his houndsman is second to none. | |||
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It doesn't matter where you go - Mr. Spots is a nocturnal character by nature; feeds by night and sleeps during the day. If you want to shoot him in the light of day it means getting into the blind about 1 hour before daybreak and in all likelihood will shoot and pose with him in daylight. It is highly unlikely to find a leopard walking around in the sweltering heat during the day (though very rare) or if driving by his resting place may spook it. On such occasions not always will one have the time to 'sex' it and not necessarily may it be a monster or even a shooter. | |||
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