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I just strolled into my dad's office (pretending to work but actually just browsing AR), and bumped into this crusty critter....Lot of snakes around at the moment...      | ||
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Thats a Mfezi is it not? I dont like them when the are pushed into a corner ...  Gerhard FFF Safaris Capture Your African Moments Hunting Outfitter (MP&LP) Proffesional Hunter (MP&LP) History guide Wildlife Photographer www.fffsafaris.co.za | |||
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Yikes!!! Russ and I saw a couple of adders and even one of those guys when we were there a couple of weeks ago.. They were most definately out and about.. | |||
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Dave, wouldn't he/she make several nice belts and hat bands? Good pics as always. Hope your doing fantastic. David Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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That my friends is why the good lord helped man invent the shotgun! Albeit not in the house! | |||
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I nwould "blow him away" with a shotgun or even my LOTT. Then get a mop and maybe some paint.  Keith IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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Some of the spiders you guys have in Africa warrant a shotgun. ____________________________ If you died tomorrow, what would you have done today ... 2018 Zimbabwe - Tuskless w/ Nengasha Safaris 2011 Mozambique - Buffalo w/ Mashambanzou Safaris | |||
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Naaaaah! I keep a trained Mongoose in my desk drawer for just such an emergency. Kinda like those "Trunk Monkey" commercials ...  | |||
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Mac, a mongoose would be OK. if he did not wreck the whole house chasing the snake. I have tested some 1oz. shot loads for my Lott. Up close they work pretty good. Keith IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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Why didn't one of those things join the beloved Bob at the birthday party? Oh, where is L. Ron Hubbard and his followers when you need them? JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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That is the best kind of snake... You saw him before he bites you... Mike | |||
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BUT, he still needs to die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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But it was oh so close - it was curled up behind the door.... Interesting statistic I'd like to share - Since Roger Whittall can remember, not one person on Humani has died from a snake bite... I know of only one fellow who died in this area, and he was bitten by a mamba. I don't know if we should all be so keen to grab the shotgun, although I know that's easy to say. I mean, snakes have their role - eating rats and stuff......I can see this argument is going to get shot down in tatters, ha ha. Glad you guys like the pictures. Dave | |||
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Do you have a good pair of tongs? Steve "He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin Tanzania 06 Argentina08 Argentina Australia06 Argentina 07 Namibia Arnhemland10 Belize2011 Moz04 Moz 09 | |||
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David's reaction is very "African". Any sane American would kill any deadly snake like a mamba or a cobra and many would kill every rattlesnake, copperhead or even coral snake (which never hurt anybody that wasn't stupid or asking for it). But over the pond it seems to be different. My last trip we came upon a rather large mamba in the high grass, nyoka mkubwa. After the initial challenge where my PH and the snake faced off, the snake retired and we let it go. The explanation? He wasn't in camp. Seems reasonable. Now behind my door, I don't know ... | |||
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Ok. Now the Zimbabwe 100 Trillion Dollar question (worthless as tits on a boar warthog at the moment): David, what ulitmately happened with your friend in the corner? | |||
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UEG, I persuaded him to slither into a cardboard box and then took him off into the bush... To be honest, I hate killing snakes, but mambas around the house or garden definitely get the shotgun treatment! Dave | |||
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This is what you hope to avoid... He came to fight with two knives and I brought a gun... Your favorite not to meet snake in Southern Africa... mamba Mike   | |||
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David, you're a better man than I am. | |||
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lavaca, Maybe just more foolish....I have come second a couple of times trying to catch snakes. Now I am very careful... Dave | |||
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Here's mine. Don't you just love 'em?   I hit this Black Mamba twice with a .308 Win and the PH hit him with a 9.3x62 and it was still fighting until the next day. Lesson: USE ENOUGH GUN! Namibiahunter  . | |||
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I grew up in snake country in southeast Alabama. My father, who taught me to hunt at a very young age, also taught me respect for snakes. I don't kill them unless they are a threat. I had a green Mamba in my tent in the Kenyan NWT one time. We just chased him out. But the black variety gives me chills. Would likely shoot one if he came too close. | |||
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BANG! BANG,BANG,BANG,BANG Reload then BANG! BANG,BANG,BANG,BANG Reload again, then BANG,BANG,BANG,BANG Go to WalMart get more bullets then BANG,BANG,BANG,BANG . I must be a "Redneck"???? Snakes give me the WILLYS! Deadly snakes Give me the WILLYS Bad!!!! "Snakes will make you hurt yourself". | |||
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Ya mean like THESE native Texans ...??? 
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Our Texas copperheads are truely masters of camo. I have probably killed 20 over the years I have never seen working with a "bushwacker" around fence lines. | |||
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Macifej, eezridr, These are copperheads? Why are they all in a huddle like that? Dave [/QUOTE] Ya mean like THESE native Texans ...???
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Here's another one that doesn't like killing snakes and will only do so if absolutely necessary. They were here before I was and I'm the guest in their jungle. so why on earth kill them for being a snake. The only time I'll kill them is if they come in the house or camp and only then if there's no other way to get 'em back out to where they do belong. If I do have to kill 'em, I usually find an asagaii the best way to do it.......... | |||
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I am not sure why those copperheads are all huddled up. This weekend in Sweetwater Texas, I believe they are having the annual rattle snake round up. You will find rattle snakes in boxes or pens thrown in together. They wiil catch 100's of rattlers (western diamondbacks). Snakes do help keep the rat and mouse population and I like the non poisonous species myself. I have my grandchildren down at our farm from time to time and they are very small and I like to keep the area clear of copperheads, but here again they are hard to spot. | |||
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I don't like snake and always try to identify them...after I kill them. | |||
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Those Texas copperheads are democrats. The picture was taken on a Friday, outside the local county offices. It was well fare check day. 114-R10David | |||
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David, I am sure that I probably don't need to tell you, but just watch out for your eyes when taking close pics of those guys....they can be very sneaky and accurate! If you wear glasses you should be ok, but if not, it is quite easy to get spat in the eye! | |||
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Yep the 12 gauge shotgun NRA LIFE MEMBER DU DIAMOND SPONSOR IN PERPETUITY DALLAS SAFARI CLUB LIFE MEMBER SCI FOUNDATION MEMBER | |||
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David - yes they are Copperheads. Pit Vipers den up en masse in the winter in caves or large crevices. Bad news if you accidentally "find" the location. The problem with Copperheads is that they have nearly perfect camo for their environemnt and are very aggressive if you get one into a fighting mood. They don't have a rattle on their tail like the other North American Pit Vipers so not much chance of hearing one in advance. | |||
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How did you carry the box? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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I carried the box in my hands...It was securely sealed so no problem. When I was younger, I caught quite a few spitters amongst other snakes with my hands! Can't believe I did it now. My snake handling efforts came to an end when I got sorted out by both a stiletto snake (burrowing adder) and a spitting cobra...I was not very proficient at handling snakes, but a couple of my cousins and some of my friends were/are very, very good. With my own eyes I have seen guys handle mambas. Now that's just whacked! Dave | |||
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Sorry to hear about the bites! I believe stillettos are a nightmare to handle, and if you handle them in the conventional behind the head manner, your thumb or middle finger stands a good chance of 'getting it'. I think Mfezis and puffadders are generally responsible for most serious bites in Southern Africa due to their habits and abundance. We had an old gentleman gardener work for us who was blind in one eye from an Mfezi. It happened when he was a kid, but he probably would not have lost his sight if he had gone to a hospital and had it treated in time. | |||
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For fellows that live in Southern Africa. Is the Gaboon Viper very common? What a nasty looking guy. Reminds me a little of our cottonmouth water moccasin. A short fat snake with a mean disposition. | |||
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Nzou, Fortunately it was not a bite from the spitting cobra, but a good squirt in the eyes, which was bad enough. A bite from a spitting cobra can be very serious - one of my friends nearly died from one. Ultimately, he only lost a finger. Yes, a stilletto is impossible to handle and I am short one fingernail because of that! At the time, I had no idea what I was catching! ha ha, we live and learn eh? eezridr, The Gaboon Viper is very rare indeed, in Zim that is. I don't know where else it occurs....parts of SA? It only occurs in a certain height range, and can only be seen here in areas of the eastern highlands. A very dangerous customer indeed. That fella that Gayne posted a picture of also looks mean as hell! Dave | |||
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There are allot of Rattlesnakes in West and South, Texas. They are not typically aggressive. They will try and escape if they can; unless you surprise them. A cottonmouth water mocassin will generally stand its ground and not retreat and you are apt to get bit. They are not quite as toxic with respect to their venom as a rattler but their saliva has a much more detrimental effect to the bite area. It leaves a nasty bite. I have seen two in my life; not pretty! All North American pit vipers will shake their tail just like a rattler if scared and provoked. They just do not have that alarm a rattler does. | |||
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