I just noticed that Hornady has some new product announcements on their web site.


375 Ruger
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=482

pdf file: http://www.hornady.com/media/375_Ruger_Sell_Sheet.pdf


9.3x74R
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=484

pdf file: http://www.hornady.com/media/9.3x74_Sell_Sheet.pdf


450/400 Nitro Express 3"
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=483

pdf file: http://www.hornady.com/media/450_400_Sell_Sheet.pdf

-Bob F.

http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=481

dont forget the 308 marlin express

should be good for medium size plains game

viva le lever revolution!

Craig Boddington has a positive article about the Hornady ammo in Guns and Ammo's latest, including, I believe, a report on the 450/400 ammo.

Gentlemen,
416 Rigby is also listed on their site, approximately 96.77$ for a box. I wonder when 404 Jeffery will be manufactured.

How is the quality of Hornady brass?

Cheers
/JOHAN

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This new load features a 286 grain Spire Point-Recoil Proof bullet..

What is a recoil-proof bullet? Not supposed to flatten in a mag box under recoil? What is the point in a 9.3x74R? Inquiring minds want to know. Maybe they will put it in a 9.3x62??

Yeah, I'm still stratching my head about the "Spire Point-Recoil Proof bullet". I think it might be just an editing / ad copy error. "Spire Point-Recoil Proof bullet" sounds more like an ad copy phrase for the bullets in their LEVERevolution ammo. But, I'm just guessing....

-Bob F.

probably protected point whereby the lead is flush with the copper

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Originally posted by BaxterB:
probably protected point whereby the lead is flush with the copper

Looking closely at the photo, that sounds like a reasonable explanation.



Like Charles said, though, what's the point of that in a single shot or double rifle? Oh well....


-Bob F.

If I remember right I read about a year ago or so that they were also supposed to make 338 LM ammo? What ever happend to that?

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Originally posted by Charles_Helm:

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This new load features a 286 grain Spire Point-Recoil Proof bullet..

What is a recoil-proof bullet? Not supposed to flatten in a mag box under recoil? What is the point in a 9.3x74R? Inquiring minds want to know. Maybe they will put it in a 9.3x62??

Yeah, maybe Hornady will offer later it as a new bullet for reloading. They need some .366" bullets in their line up. A flat point bullet in a 9.3x62 (or a 9.3x64 or whatever) rifle would make some sense.

-Bob F.

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Originally posted by Use Enough Gun:
Craig Boddington has a positive article about the Hornady ammo in Guns and Ammo's latest, including, I believe, a report on the 450/400 ammo.

Boddington was hunting with Steve Hornady in Zim this season (while I was there in the same concession), so I would consider his opinion less than unbiased.

By the way, did Boddington happen to mention the lousy performance of the Hornady .416 Rigby (Interbond) ammunition?

Regards,

Terry

Terry: I believe that his article dealt with the Ruger No. 1 chambered in the .450/.400 shooting Hornady's 400 grain bullets. One shot buffalo with this set-up. A second picture of the bull that he shot with this set-up is also found in his article entitled "Fangs, Claws, Horns", in the latest Peterson's Hunting Magazine.

Notice that they had to work with a 20" barrel. I presume that the Ruger M77 hosting this cartridge will come with the 20" barrel too. It sounds like my .376 Steyr ProHunter.

Ruger has mentioned an Alaska version and an African version. Carbine for Alaska, and the rifle for Africa?

jim

Sturm, Ruger Announces M77 Hawkeye Rifles Chambered in the New .375 Ruger Caliber
November 7, 2006

Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. (NYSE: RGR), the nation's largest firearms manufacturer, is proud to announce the introduction of two new Ruger M77 Hawkeye rifles chambered in the new .375 Ruger. The cartridge, co-developed with Hornady Manufacturing, perfectly fits the Ruger standard length action, the same one used for .270 Winchester and .30-'06 Springfield. The new cartridge delivers performance from a 20" barrel that equals the venerable .375 H&H from a longer magnum-length action with a 24" barrel.

The M77 Hawkeye "Alaskan" chambered in .375 Ruger features a matte black finish, a handy 20" barrel, and a Hogue OverMolded synthetic stock. It will be available in early 2007. The M77 Hawkeye "African," also in .375 Ruger and available in early 2007, features a 23" blued barrel and checkered walnut stock. A left-handed "African" model will be available in mid-2007.

"We are extremely excited about this new co-development between Ruger and Hornady," said Sturm, Ruger President, Stephen L. Sanetti. "The .375 Ruger cartridge has already been tested in Africa by both Ruger and Hornady staff with excellent results. The shorter-barreled 'Alaskan' rifle is the perfect gun where quick handling and hard-hitting cartridges are needed, while the 'African' rifle will provide the same performance in a classic hunter's rifle."

Both rifles feature windage adjustable shallow "V" notch rear sights and large white bead front sights for instant sight alignment. They also are delivered with Ruger's patented scope rings, allowing the shooter to choose which optics to install on the integral mounts. Both rifles also have new, more effective recoil pads and new light and crisp Ruger LC6â„¢ triggers.

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Sturm, Ruger Announces M77 Hawkeye Rifles
November 7, 2006

Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. (NYSE: RGR), is proud to announce the introduction of the new Ruger® M77 Hawkeye bolt action rifles that are designed to be instant classics. America's best production rifles just got a lot better!

The M77 Hawkeye rifles are refinements of the popular Ruger M77 Mark II rifles, but have improved, new features, including the smooth and crisp Ruger LC6 trigger for improved out-of-the-box trigger pull and a new red rubber recoil pad that provides more effective recoil reduction. Key features of the Ruger M77 Mark II have been retained in the new M77 Hawkeye rifles, including Mauser-type controlled feeding and a powerful claw extractor, 3-position safety, hammer forged steel barrels and free Ruger patented scope rings.

The design of the patented steel floorplate, now bearing the distinctive Ruger logo, provides easy unloading and eliminates accidental "dumping" of ammunition.

Two models of the new Ruger M77 Hawkeye rifles are available. The matte blued version features a newly designed, slimmer walnut stock with wrap-around cut checkering on the forearm and more rounded contours on the bottom of the stock and top of the pistol grips. The matte stainless version features a synthetic stock with a new recoil pad.

"The M77 Hawkeye rifles are the result of Ruger listening to its customers," said Sturm, Ruger President, Stephen L. Sanetti. "Although some well-known, reliable features of the Ruger M77 Mark II have been retained in the M77 Hawkeye rifle, it also incorporates new and improved features which are sure to please even the most discriminating Ruger customer."


http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/N-Firearms_News.html

Interesting, the blurb on the .450/400 says that all components are produced "in house" and states that both loads push a 400gr bullet at 2050fps. I get that velocity already with the 400gr Woodleigh bullets in my .405 #1.

The 9.3x74r doesn't have the "in house" statement except to state that Hornady makes the brass and no velocity is listed

rick r...



make a supersize 405 win by necking up the 9,3x74r

Boom,

the .450/400 is capable of a bit more, Hornady appears to have gotten reloading data from the corporate liabillity lawyers.

And 9,3 bullets from someone who's not "in house", I was kind of hoping for a 286gr Interbond for my 9,3x62.

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Interesting, the blurb on the .450/400 says that all components are produced "in house"

I doubt this as Steve is on record as saying he'll never make primers and he also don't produce poowder.

Glad to see that Ruger is improving the 77 and that the Alaskan and African models will have express sights and the short barreled Alaskan is a good move. Did anyone also notice a one MOA mini 14 on the list. I'd have to see that to believe it.

Neato.
Picture of the African seems to show a stout looking single leaf fixed rear express sight.

This must be the fix for the RSM. This M77 African and Alaskan combo looks sweet.

And finally some Ruger No.1's that make sense.

Thank you Ruger and Hornady.

At least the brass will be useful, and cheap as well.

But based on many reports I have read, no bullet now made by Hornady is fit for use against DG.

And that, for what is primarily a bullet company, is just stupid.

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Originally posted by mrlexma:
But based on many reports I have read, no bullet now made by Hornady is fit for use against DG.

IMHO, your comment applies to all large game - not just DG.

Doug

Hello

Were can I see a picture of these new 375 Rugers? And, does anybody know how much these rifles are going to weigh?

Thanks

Mark

Nice to see the work!! The 416 rigby is suposed to be at midway tomorrow!! and 1/2 the price of the federal load...

416 rigby
450/400
375
9,3
next, we need the 470 NE!!! and bullets

jeffe

Well, it'll be good plinking ammo or for hunting non-dangerous thin skin animals, but given the poor results at the hands of Mr. Hornady himself on a buff hunt, you won't find me using it for serious work. jorge

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Originally posted by BFaucett:

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Originally posted by Charles_Helm:

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This new load features a 286 grain Spire Point-Recoil Proof bullet..

What is a recoil-proof bullet? Not supposed to flatten in a mag box under recoil? What is the point in a 9.3x74R? Inquiring minds want to know. Maybe they will put it in a 9.3x62??

Yeah, maybe Hornady will offer later it as a new bullet for reloading. They need some .366" bullets in their line up. A flat point bullet in a 9.3x62 (or a 9.3x64 or whatever) rifle would make some sense.

-Bob F.

I agree with Bob on this one! Hornady is historiclly a handloader's componant manufacturer, and the bullet is made for the handloader, for the very popular .366 dia for bolt rifles chambered for 9.3X62, and 64mm cartridges. They simply are telling you this is the bullet they will be useing in the 9.3X74R cartridge as well! The 9.3 cartridges are usually in rifles that are fairly light, and the recoil velocity is a sharp "SNAPP" makeing the bullets suseptable to point damage in a box magazine. One thing they could do to make the bullet "RECOIL PROOF" in a double rifle is, make the bullet with a crimping grouve. If four of five shots are taken with the right barrel, without tradeing barrels with the cartridge in the left barrel the bullets somethimes back out, from recoil. However, I think they are simply thinking ahead, to the use handloaders will put this bullet to, and the NAME of the bullet is the: .366, 286 gr RECOIL PROOF !

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Originally posted by T.Carr:

By the way, did Boddington happen to mention the lousy performance of the Hornady .416 Rigby (Interbond) ammunition?

Don't be ridiculous! All screwups and defective products are held in the strictest confidence or future sponsorships would be in jeopardy.

Translation: Honesty is sacrificed in favor of financial gain.

While the bullets topping the cartridge may not suit everyone. The cartridge itself seems to hold interesting promise for reloaders.

BUT, that's only if reloaders can approach the same performance as these factory loads.

As Mrlexma pointed out so correctly, Hornady is primarily a bullet company.

I see, producing a cartridge that reloaders can't take full advantage of is slapping the hand that feeds them. Time will tell.

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Boddington was hunting with Steve Hornady in Zim this season (while I was there in the same concession), so I would consider his opinion less than unbiased.

By the way, did Boddington happen to mention the lousy performance of the Hornady .416 Rigby (Interbond) ammunition?

A recent "Tracks across Africa" showed what I think was the infamous buffalo hunt with Steve Hornady. As I recall it, Hornady took a shot and the next thing shown in the film was a dead buffalo and at an obviously later hour of the day. I remember thinking they edited out the "exciting" part of that hunt since it was due to bullet failure. Anybody else see that?

Where is the .404jeffery?!?!?!?!?!?

I want to know about the 416 Rigby brass. Is it soft like Normas?

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Originally posted by boom stick:
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/PDF/NewProducts/HM77RSPHAB-A-S.pdf

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/PDF/NewProducts/HM77R-A.pdf

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/PDF/NewProducts/HM77RS-A-S.pdf

That doesn't look like a CRF action to me! Does anyone know if it is or isn't?

If it isn't, they can keep it! I might chamber a Mauser action I have to the cartridge, though!

Mac,
other than the 22/223, and 44, I believe all the ruger centerfires are CRF

jeffe

I have a Ruger M77 Hawkeye African version in .375 Ruger on order.

On the .450-.400 ammo I expect Hornady to follow CIP standards for the cartridge and hope that it will shoot properly in doubles too.

jim

Does anyone know if the 375 Ruger reamers are available? Or will they keep this one "proprietary"?

And how much is the 9.3 ammo? The Europeans overprice the stuff and I think that's a shame as this keeps folks away from this excellent caliber.

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Originally posted by HunterJim:
I have a Ruger M77 Hawkeye African version in .375 Ruger on order.

jim

The "African" model has a 23" barrel which will probably be more reloader friendly. Let us know how you like it.

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Where is the .404jeffery?!?!?!?!?!?

Where it belongs in History.

Dr B

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Originally posted by Dr B:

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Where is the .404jeffery?!?!?!?!?!?

Where it belongs in History.

Dr B