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Buffalo fight to the death,photos
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17 August 2008, 12:46
Johnny ZanniWOW!
Did the buff survive? were they dead when found of did they have to be killed?
thanks for posting these amazing pics
17 August 2008, 15:28
Equinsu Ochathose are some amazing photos!! Thank you for sharing them with us!! WOW
17 August 2008, 16:27
SGraves155Yup, stuck, and no way out. Thanks for posting.
17 August 2008, 18:24
Wendell ReichSomething I never thought I would see. What are the odds. That is amazing.
Usually only antlered species get "hung up", I have heard that it is possible with Kudu, in the right circumstances, but Buffalo?
Wow.
17 August 2008, 19:27
DC300Gimme a break...this is as phony as a three dollar bill. Not a mark on either animal. Obviosly posed.
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I'd hate to run up against the guy that could man handle those buffalo and pose them like that.
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17 August 2008, 20:11
Woodmnctryquote:
Originally posted by DC300:
Gimme a break...this is as phony as a three dollar bill. Not a mark on either animal. Obviosly posed.
Guess they must have moved the equipment out of sight and covered the tracks ---eh?
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17 August 2008, 20:41
NickuduLooks to me as though each bull may have scored a skull penetration.
They are so well matched, they could be brothers!
17 August 2008, 21:16
Scott KingI'm not sure even "Ahhnold" in his prime could have arrainged thos buffalo.
Wait, I did see "Terminator" never mind, he could.
I'd guess those pictures were genuine. I don't see the profit in spending the time and effort to pose the two in such a fashion. They are bloating and loosing fluid from the nose and back end so I'd guess they've been dead hours.
17 August 2008, 22:14
scruffyWow, James !!! What an amazing set of pictures !!!
17 August 2008, 22:21
L. David Keithquote:
I'd guess those pictures were genuine. I don't see the profit in spending the time and effort to pose the two in such a fashion. They are bloating and loosing fluid from the nose and back end so I'd guess they've been dead hours.
Spot on Scott. Good observations on your part. That should have been a "dead" give away to those that pay attention to details.
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18 August 2008, 01:05
DC300Doesn't make any difference how long they have been dead. These pictures could have been the last ones taken after they were posed. Believe what you want to. Still looks posed to me.
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18 August 2008, 01:27
jdollarlet me see if i have this right. you take 2 1200lb animals, pose them like this, leave them there long enough to bloat, then come back to take pictures- all for NO MONEY. SURE, MAKES SENSE TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!
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Whitetail deer do it. Cape buffalo do it. Maybe there are holes in the skulls where points entered?
That will make a nice "double skull mount" to commemorate this rare event. I hope someone makes a display with the bleached skulls and recreates the locked horns of combat to the death.
18 August 2008, 01:49
BlacktailerWho won?
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18 August 2008, 08:29
The Slugquote:
Originally posted by DC300:
Doesn't make any difference how long they have been dead. These pictures could have been the last ones taken after they were posed. Believe what you want to. Still looks posed to me.
Are you freakin' kidding? Do you have any idea what it would take to pose those animals like that? For what purpose would someone do it? You need a reality check. Life in the wild is tough and some times things don't work out the way we expect them to.
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18 August 2008, 08:41
graybirdquote:
Originally posted by Blacktailer:
Who won?
I think they both lost!
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18 August 2008, 08:56
Jefffivequote:
Originally posted by Blacktailer:
Who won?
Pretty clearly a tie, but no rematch has been scheduled.
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18 August 2008, 09:25
yukon deltaHow bizarre. That would have been an interesting sight to see. Thanks for posting.
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18 August 2008, 13:29
ozhunterpoor Bastards.
18 August 2008, 18:43
silwaneorigionally posted by DC300
Gimme a break...this is as phony as a three dollar bill. Not a mark on either animal. Obviosly posed.
DC300 you can go to Youtube if you want to post some
like that. We dont have that kind of forum here.
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18 August 2008, 20:29
jimmaraFor those buff to have been posed they would have had to been shot at the same time.Once riga sets in you not bending there necks like that for anything.
18 August 2008, 20:55
TamidI don't quite see how they are locked up? The horns seem quite loose around each other. Interesting is the pose. I would expect to see face to face, nose to nose or some semblance of that. Here they are back of head to back of head. I suppose they might have spun that way when they threw each other. I might also speculate that the bull on the bottom may have broke his neck when they fell and his horn penetrated the skull of the bull on the top.
18 August 2008, 21:05
silwaneThats kind of what it looks like to me as well. The bull on the bottoms head is nearly turned around backwards, it had to break the neck....
Whatever happened im sure it was a hell of a fight.....MMA African style!
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18 August 2008, 21:36
jnc91Looks real to me. Both buffs are bloated and appear to have been dead for several hours at the time the photo was taken. It would be very difficult to pose such a photo with such large animals.
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18 August 2008, 22:52
SDHallI don't know if those buffalo were posed or not, but these kudu were definatley found dead, my friend took these pictures while we were hunting in Botswana back in July.
18 August 2008, 23:46
NzouI really don't think that this is a staged photo. I think the fact that they have been dead for a few days at least would confirm that. It looks like they are probably disease-free buff too (looks almost like Mountain Zebra National Park terrain in the background by the way). Who would waste that amount of money for two bulls to stage a photo like that?
Also, there seems to be a lack of major predators in the reserve they are in, such as hyena or lion, would likely have found them by such time. Kudu bulls seem to die locked in battle from time to time, think it is due to their horn structure with all the curls, which probably have more of a grapple effect compared to other horn types.
19 August 2008, 00:02
prairiewolfquote:
Originally posted by Woodmnctry:
quote:
Originally posted by DC300:
Gimme a break...this is as phony as a three dollar bill. Not a mark on either animal. Obviosly posed.
Guess they must have moved the equipment out of sight and covered the tracks ---eh?
and in doing so they also covered the tracks and torn up ground that 2 bulls of that size would have made while fighting
looks like some good photo shop work.
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19 August 2008, 00:41
Pauly3511some of you people are amazing. wow
19 August 2008, 01:55
JC375I think it is a real shame that no anti hunting folks were around to seperate them before they parrished.
19 August 2008, 03:29
DC300quote:
Originally posted by prairiewolf:
quote:
Originally posted by Woodmnctry:
quote:
Originally posted by DC300:
Gimme a break...this is as phony as a three dollar bill. Not a mark on either animal. Obviosly posed.
Guess they must have moved the equipment out of sight and covered the tracks ---eh?
and in doing so they also covered the tracks and torn up ground that 2 bulls of that size would have made while fighting
looks like some good photo shop work.
That's my whole point. The ground isn't torn up and neither are the animals. The grass and ground appear untouched to me. I'd think the animals would show some sign of battle. Look at the horns, not a mark. If two animals that size collided with enough force to lock horns that tightly there should be some evidence. The only blood visible is from the nose of one of them. One little trickle. None of us will ever know for sure.
DC300
20 August 2008, 19:03
AndersYou see this from time to time in Norway with wild reindeer. But they have like 20-30 points on their antlers.. This is just amazing!
22 August 2008, 00:29
Jeff WemmerWell I reckon if those Buffs were posed then somebody really did go to the extra effort in getting just the right amount of dung placed behind each bull!
My vote: This is legitimate.
JW
22 August 2008, 00:46
SGraves155Its gotta be posed.
First, They broke each buffalo's neck with a trick learned from the Crocodile Dundee movie using some kind of mind control. Then they used some of those machines like Ripley used to fight the Alien to get the horns locked. Then they moved 'em to the bush with a big fork-lift or a tractor-beam.
Then they brushed out the machine tracks using feathers and brush. Simple when you think about it.
Then they moved in the exact amount of shit mentioned by Jeff.
22 August 2008, 01:51
LorenzoWhile fighting they fell in that position and it was impossible for them to stand up again due to the position of their heads. They must have been very stressed and that must got thing worse.
Look at the droppings under their tails, they must have suffered a lot without being able to move in any direction. Poor animals
I must add that maybe one of them broke its neck making things more difficult to the other one.
L
22 August 2008, 01:52
shakariS Graves155
Funneeee!!!!!!!
Staged.
If such were to happen they would both had to die instantaneously and simultaneously. I have seen cattle after they die from bloat(which can take hours) and they will lay there in one spot(such as these)and make a heck of a mess of the ground as they are dying from paddling their feet much as these would have in an attempt to regain their footing. I also know the power of a winch and some strong men. There is not a scuff mark on either bulls body or horn. No blood on either horn that is next to the others head and not enough penetration to be fatal anyways. If you were to twist the bottom bulls head more to the right the top bull would come loose if pulled slightly forward and tipped towards his chest.
Two bulls(or bucks) of any kind will make a mess when they fight.
The why ??? Well we are talking about humans and I have seen they have no need of why's.
That is my opinion.
22 August 2008, 17:45
buckoOf course it is real.
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23 August 2008, 07:11
larryshoresWhere was this?
