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MJines has accused me on another thread that I threw Buzz under the proverbial bus and I do not recall that but what I do remember is that I stood by Mr. Robinson whom I have spent time with and proved to be a very fine gentleman.

So Mr. Jines please prove here how I threw CMS under the bus. Let's dissect this topic till we have a conclusion because your recent posting has consistently referred to my character which I am prepared to defend.

Firstly let us look at my favourable remarks to all CMS hunt reports bar one.

Secondly, let's look closely at our host's comments which you have neglected to mention.

Then thirdly why do you follow me around like a bad smell?


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. . . seriously, I can find plenty of others ways to waste my time. Send Buzz an email and see what he thinks of your prior posts and their implications regarding CMS . . . I happen to already know the answer to that question but you seem to be in doubt.


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No one threw Buzz under the bus!

He jumped in headfirst!

Behaving as an entitled idiot and got treated as one.

Charging clients non refundable trophy fees and blanking all faces because a wimp hunting with him complained!

Worse part about Buzz he didn’t have the guts to own up to his own mistakes!

You will NEVER see me hunt with him!


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When two pigs wallow in poop, guess what, usually both get smeared with poop.
Andrew, letting things simmer down may be a better course of action or talking to them offline and directly. You may type something that is misunderstood and makes the situation worse.

We all know MJines and the others mentioned. Maybe let this one go....
 
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No one threw Buzz under the bus!

He jumped in headfirst!

Behaving as an entitled idiot and got treated as one.

Charging clients non refundable trophy fees and blanking all faces because a wimp hunting with him complained!

Worse part about Buzz he didn’t have the guts to own up to his own mistakes!

You will NEVER see me hunt with him!


+1

And in my case for other reasons resulting from personal experience as well.


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. . . seriously, I can find plenty of others ways to waste my time. Send Buzz an email and see what he thinks of your prior posts and their implications regarding CMS . . . I happen to already know the answer to that question but you seem to be in doubt.


Here’s a question.

Do you have a financial interest in or serve in any other capacity with respect to CMS or its US affiliate, Global Marketing Consultants, LLC?

Besides serving as attack dog?


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When two pigs wallow in poop, guess what, usually both get smeared with poop.
Andrew, letting things simmer down may be a better course of action or talking to them offline and directly. You may type something that is misunderstood and makes the situation worse.

We all know MJines and the others mentioned. Maybe let this one go....


I like that saying. It’s like “that white piece on chicken shit is still chicken shit.”


I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills.

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Perhaps someone should start a thread detailing only those PH/operators/owners, etc etc, who are clean as the driven snow and have a total of 0 complaints of any kind. I think that would be useful for some of us.
 
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Instead of calling people out you should be working on the refund that you guaranteed. Tick tock!!! It’s been 19 days since you were called out and no money has been returned. That seems to line up with what I have told everyone. Multiple requests for a refund with no action taken.

I don’t see anyone complaining about CMS selling a hunt that wasn’t viable or not giving back refunds. Don’t call out MJines for your mistakes. You are sure working hard in the cyber world to save your reputation but what have you done to fix the problem? You have the talking part down. The actions don’t support the talk or this wouldn’t have been brought to a message board in the first place.


The more you continue to throw rocks from that glass house the more people are going to continue to point out your mistakes.
 
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I believe that is called "deflecting blame" when you mis-direct the problem to someone not really in the mix.....
 
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Perhaps someone should start a thread detailing only those PH/operators/owners, etc etc, who are clean as the driven snow and have a total of 0 complaints of any kind. I think that would be useful for some of us.


Good idea.

Nearly every outfit has a problem or two if they have been in business very long. The key is how it is handled and sorted out. I have had a couple of messes that were sorted badly and a couple that were sorted to my satisfaction.

The worst has been two different sheep hunting outfits in Canada. Both were a big problem and were not sorted properly.

The problems in Africa were all sorted and ended up fine.
 
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Perhaps someone should start a thread detailing only those PH/operators/owners, etc etc, who are clean as the driven snow and have a total of 0 complaints of any kind. I think that would be useful for some of us.


I know you meant that in jest but as someone who works for the public daily…that could only come with a “white as snow” public clientele base…doesn’t exist.


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. . . seriously, I can find plenty of others ways to waste my time. Send Buzz an email and see what he thinks of your prior posts and their implications regarding CMS . . . I happen to already know the answer to that question but you seem to be in doubt.


Here’s a question.

Do you have a financial interest in or serve in any other capacity with respect to CMS or its US affiliate, Global Marketing Consultants, LLC?

Besides serving as attack dog?


Pretty simple question.

Cat got your tongue?


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. . . a swing . . . and another miss. Another, "quick, look over there" post. 2020


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. . . a swing . . . and another miss. Another, "quick, look over there" post. 2020


Actually Mike I made a mistake putting up this thread and as you have suggested I will send Buzz an email and you a private message.

Therefore I will delete it as being vindictive is not really in my nature.


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For some reason it is not giving me a delete option?


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Instead of calling people out you should be working on the refund that you guaranteed. Tick tock!!! It’s been 19 days since you were called out and no money has been returned. That seems to line up with what I have told everyone. Multiple requests for a refund with no action taken.

I don’t see anyone complaining about CMS selling a hunt that wasn’t viable or not giving back refunds. Don’t call out MJines for your mistakes. You are sure working hard in the cyber world to save your reputation but what have you done to fix the problem? You have the talking part down. The actions don’t support the talk or this wouldn’t have been brought to a message board in the first place.


The more you continue to throw rocks from that glass house the more people are going to continue to point out your mistakes.


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. . . a swing . . . and another miss. Another, "quick, look over there" post. 2020


Interesting. So the answer is that you do have a financial interest in CMS.

And an undisclosed financial interest, at least until now.

Small wonder you act like an attack dog whenever the slightest criticism is directed at CMS.


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For some reason it is not giving me a delete option?


Andrew, you can't delete a thread that you have started after anyone else has posted on it; however, you can ask a moderator to do that.


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Perhaps someone should start a thread detailing only those PH/operators/owners, etc etc, who are clean as the driven snow and have a total of 0 complaints of any kind. I think that would be useful for some of us.


Good idea.

Nearly every outfit has a problem or two if they have been in business very long. The key is how it is handled and sorted out. I have had a couple of messes that were sorted badly and a couple that were sorted to my satisfaction.

The worst has been two different sheep hunting outfits in Canada. Both were a big problem and were not sorted properly.

The problems in Africa were all sorted and ended up fine.


Can you PM me the sheep outfitters? I would appreciate it.
 
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. . . a swing . . . and another miss. Another, "quick, look over there" post. 2020


Interesting. So the answer is that you do have a financial interest in CMS.

And an undisclosed financial interest, at least until now.

Small wonder you act like an attack dog whenever the slightest criticism is directed at CMS.


I have no idea myself. However, I did a bit of research. Buzz & Myles are listed as key people. Another gentleman I have heard of (who I believe is a lawyer but not Mikle Jines) is the registered agent. The address is a long way from where Mike Jines is located.

https://www.corporationwiki.co...37683105.aspx#people
 
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. . . a swing . . . and another miss. Another, "quick, look over there" post. 2020


Interesting. So the answer is that you do have a financial interest in CMS.

And an undisclosed financial interest, at least until now.

Small wonder you act like an attack dog whenever the slightest criticism is directed at CMS.


. . . another swing and a miss. I have no financial interest in anything to do with CMS other than as a paying client. You really should stop, you’re embarrassing yourself . . . again.


2020


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In my opinion the only thing this group wants to see is Cme get his deposit back.

Everything else is just muddying the water.
 
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You guys are making me feel nostalgic.


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For some reason it is not giving me a delete option?


Andrew, you can't delete a thread that you have started after anyone else has posted on it; however, you can ask a moderator to do that.


OK but the accusation was I that orchestrated a Kangercourt against CMS and my only contributions to that thread were my disappointment at the CMS newsletter and understanding a hunter who called it quits.

The main players were Mr Robinson, Saeed, and MJines were they not? Everyone is welcome to revisit that thread and dress me down if need be


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Perhaps someone should start a thread detailing only those PH/operators/owners, etc etc, who are clean as the driven snow and have a total of 0 complaints of any kind. I think that would be useful for some of us.


And since it would be based on opinions the list of driven snow would be short.

Remember my friend, opinions are like hemorrhoids, eventually every asshiole gets one.

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just do not know why I have been singled out as the bad guy and how this will affect future bookings on AR


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Instead of calling people out you should be working on the refund that you guaranteed. Tick tock!!! It’s been 19 days since you were called out and no money has been returned. That seems to line up with what I have told everyone. Multiple requests for a refund with no action taken.

I don’t see anyone complaining about CMS selling a hunt that wasn’t viable or not giving back refunds. Don’t call out MJines for your mistakes. You are sure working hard in the cyber world to save your reputation but what have you done to fix the problem? You have the talking part down. The actions don’t support the talk or this wouldn’t have been brought to a message board in the first place.


The more you continue to throw rocks from that glass house the more people are going to continue to point out your mistakes.


That is NOT strictly true.

The proverbial shit hit the fan when BUZZ demanded NON REFUNDABLE trophy fees!


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Saeed, please be fair with that accusation. Regarding the prepaid trophy fees, it was very limited. It was ONLY for clients that wanted to hunt in a concession CMS didn’t control at that time and it was ONLY for eland and zebra, IIRC, in that outfitters concession where that operator had limited quota for those species. That operator had clients wanting to hunt those species when they had been promised to CMS and others, requiring CMS to pre purchase the quota. CMS had a couple of clients change their minds upon arrival, No longer wanting to take those species, leaving CMS holding the bag for the trophy fees without subsequent clients lined up to pay for them.
 
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. . . a swing . . . and another miss. Another, "quick, look over there" post. 2020


Interesting. So the answer is that you do have a financial interest in CMS.

And an undisclosed financial interest, at least until now.

Small wonder you act like an attack dog whenever the slightest criticism is directed at CMS.


I have no idea myself. However, I did a bit of research. Buzz & Myles are listed as key people. Another gentleman I have heard of (who I believe is a lawyer but not Mikle Jines) is the registered agent. The address is a long way from where Mike Jines is located.

https://www.corporationwiki.co...37683105.aspx#people


Buzz sounds a lot cooler than James Durnford.


I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills.

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. . . a swing . . . and another miss. Another, "quick, look over there" post. 2020


Interesting. So the answer is that you do have a financial interest in CMS.

And an undisclosed financial interest, at least until now.

Small wonder you act like an attack dog whenever the slightest criticism is directed at CMS.


I have no idea myself. However, I did a bit of research. Buzz & Myles are listed as key people. Another gentleman I have heard of (who I believe is a lawyer but not Mikle Jines) is the registered agent. The address is a long way from where Mike Jines is located.

https://www.corporationwiki.co...37683105.aspx#people


Yes. Global Marketing Consultants, LLC is a closely held limited liability company, no doubt established for tax-driven reasons.

It is impossible to tell from the public record who all of its members or sub-participants may be.


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. . . a swing . . . and another miss. Another, "quick, look over there" post. 2020


Interesting. So the answer is that you do have a financial interest in CMS.

And an undisclosed financial interest, at least until now.

Small wonder you act like an attack dog whenever the slightest criticism is directed at CMS.


I have no idea myself. However, I did a bit of research. Buzz & Myles are listed as key people. Another gentleman I have heard of (who I believe is a lawyer but not Mikle Jines) is the registered agent. The address is a long way from where Mike Jines is located.

https://www.corporationwiki.co...37683105.aspx#people


Buzz sounds a lot cooler than James Durnford.


Most would agree. rotflmo
 
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Good lord. The amount of deflection on this thread is staggering.

Want evidence of Andrew's kangaroo courts? Look no further.
 
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. . . a swing . . . and another miss. Another, "quick, look over there" post. 2020


Interesting. So the answer is that you do have a financial interest in CMS.

And an undisclosed financial interest, at least until now.

Small wonder you act like an attack dog whenever the slightest criticism is directed at CMS.


I have no idea myself. However, I did a bit of research. Buzz & Myles are listed as key people. Another gentleman I have heard of (who I believe is a lawyer but not Mikle Jines) is the registered agent. The address is a long way from where Mike Jines is located.

https://www.corporationwiki.co...37683105.aspx#people


Yes. Global Marketing Consultants, LLC is a closely held limited liability company, no doubt established for tax-driven reasons.

It is impossible to tell from the public record who all of its members or sub-participants may be.


Only shows two members and involuntary inactive with the Comptrollers office.
 
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just do not know why I have been singled out as the bad guy and how this will affect future bookings on AR


fairgame,

Why is everything about you? The hubris and narcissism are mind blowing. Shouldn't your primary concern be getting your clients money back? Shouldn't your second concern be in showing empathy to a client who's father is dying and may now never be able to hunt Africa with his son. If you do those two things, all gets back close to normal.

I am not trying to be rude, but you have the ability to come off as crass and clueless sometimes.

You asked the question so I will try to answer it in blunt honesty.

1. Never post while drinking. Perhaps you haven't in either of these two threads. If so I apologize. Your writing in the early pages of the first thread certainly didn't come across as someone in complete control of their senses. The post I am answering doesn't seem coherent either.

2. Stay humble. "Yes it was my mistake for putting the money with Ibrahim but I am in communication with him and CME to try and get the money back as soon as possible". Then make sure and stay in touch with both parties regularly until CME is paid off. Don't make excuses. They don't work. Also don't have a pity party for yourself like the post I am responding to.

3. Don't lie or say things that can easily be disproven in text messages. You have had to eat your words way too many times on the previous thread to have credibility now.

4. Remember the rule of glass houses. When you live in a glass house, don't throw stones at Sam Farrow or Mike Jines. DON'T START A NEW THREAD THAT DOUBLES THE AMOUNT OF BAD PRESS YOU WILL RECIEVE REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH YOU THINK THE INDIVIDUAL YOU ARE ATTACKING DESERVES IT. It may feel great throwing a rock through their house but these two threads are destroying your home.

5. Remember the rule of holes. When you are in a hole and over your head, stop digging. This should have been evident after the first day of the first thread. See number 2 above and stay humble.

For the average AR member these threads have been entertaining. Probably the most entertaining topic on AR in the past couple of years. I keep getting commentaries on WhatsApp every day from friends asking if I have seen the latest thing posted. This can't be good for your reputation. There are multiple AR members like dogcat who have politely tried to tell you to stop being pompous and arrogant in your comments. Instead of listening to his advice you start a new thread.

I have nothing against you. I believe we communicated one time about your quota clean up hunt with Thor. I was going to be happy taking a tracker and still hunt a 200 meter wide belt of riverine brush a kilometer or two long for the entire week or 10 days, to have a chance at one of those amazing bushbucks Thor has but that quota was already spoken for. Would I consider a hunt like that now? I know people like Frostbit have had amazing hunts with you, but there are already way more amazing places and wonderful outfitters/ph's than I will ever get the time to hunt with in my lifetime.

As I said in the other thread. My heart goes out for everyone trying to make an honest living in Africa. This goes for you too Andrew. It is not easy. I have tried and failed.

I hope you can salvage your clientele and hunting reputation. To do that, first you need to get CME his money back.

Stay humble!
 
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Has Cme received his refund yet?


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Has Cme received his refund yet?


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. . . a swing . . . and another miss. Another, "quick, look over there" post. 2020


Interesting. So the answer is that you do have a financial interest in CMS.

And an undisclosed financial interest, at least until now.

Small wonder you act like an attack dog whenever the slightest criticism is directed at CMS.


I have no idea myself. However, I did a bit of research. Buzz & Myles are listed as key people. Another gentleman I have heard of (who I believe is a lawyer but not Mikle Jines) is the registered agent. The address is a long way from where Mike Jines is located.

https://www.corporationwiki.co...37683105.aspx#people


Buzz sounds a lot cooler than James Durnford.


Most would agree. rotflmo


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DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191
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No.


Thanks, I figured this was just another of Andrew’s, “Why is everybody always picking on poor old me” bullshit threads, but wanted to make sure.


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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
Saeed, please be fair with that accusation. Regarding the prepaid trophy fees, it was very limited. It was ONLY for clients that wanted to hunt in a concession CMS didn’t control at that time and it was ONLY for eland and zebra, IIRC, in that outfitters concession where that operator had limited quota for those species. That operator had clients wanting to hunt those species when they had been promised to CMS and others, requiring CMS to pre purchase the quota. CMS had a couple of clients change their minds upon arrival, No longer wanting to take those species, leaving CMS holding the bag for the trophy fees without subsequent clients lined up to pay for them.


It was the main reason Buzz got his knickers in the twist after a member here complained.

Buzz was very happy to get clients off AR.

Once he decided to become a crook - charging NON REFUNDABLE trophy fees is what crooks do.

And an AR member complained, he decided AR is not for him!

I have absolutely, positively, no respect for someone who lacks character to stand for what he does.

Or at least apologize for what he did!


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