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. We hunted late last year in the Tian Shan for ibex, booked through WTO and AMO. Due to various admin and miscommunication issues we could not take the skulls / horns with us at the end of the hunt as planned and agreed, as the PH / outfitter could not get the paperwork sorted. At additional expense to us (shared by AMO at USD 500/- each) Ruslan, the outfitter, sent the trophies 6 weeks later, to us in Duesseldorf using Turkish Airlines. Seemed pricy at USD 1.000/- for a 20 kg shipment but there we go. We lost a 4 week battle with the German State Vets Office to have the trophies cleared in Duesseldorf and in the end the office inspected the trophies and declared them unfit for importation and 'to be destroyed' (at a cost to us of EUR 875,-). They stated in their report that the trophies were not properly packed, were fly and maggot infested and damp / wet. WTO and AMO cited that they were booking agents, have contracts and waivers and are not responsible. Fair enough. The PH, Ruslan, is reported to have said that he can replace the trophies. He's gone very quiet about the whole thing. We don't want someone else's horns on our wall, you will understand that. It would be a total waste of time, energy and cost to challenge the German State Vet's office and the trophies and crate have been incinerated in the meantime. We will frame a couple of the better trophy photographs that we took and hang them on the wall. Great shame, as it was an amazing adventure despite the admin and trophy screw ups. You live and learn. . "Up the ladders and down the snakes!" | ||
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Shit that's a shame mate. Just read the hunt report last night. ------------------------------ A mate of mine has just told me he's shagging his girlfriend and her twin. I said "How can you tell them apart?" He said "Her brother's got a moustache!" | |||
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I'm very sorry to hear this. I suppose you'll never know what went wrong. From your photo (below), it looked like the prep work was being done thoroughly.  (Photo taken from Charlie's original hunt report, here: http://forums.accuratereloadin...036/m/6081079352/p/1 ) Reindeer & Geese, Iceland, 2023 Plains Game, Eastern Cape, 2023 Buff - Zambezi Valley, Zimbabwe, 2022 Muskox-Greenland, 2020 Roe buck and muntjac in England, 2019 Unkomaas Valley, RSA, 2019 Kaokoland, Namibia, 2017 Wild boar hunting in Sweden, 2016 Moose hunting in Sweden, 2014 How to post photos on AR | |||
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Hope you didn't pay them to 'destroy' things. Screw 'em, they're desires wouldn't add to my costs no matter what. Sorry to hear this Charlie. George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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Damn Charlie, sorry about that. Losing a trophy like that would make me sick... On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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That is just terrible! Heartbreaking! | |||
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I guess there’s always pictures but honestly there are some species that are just plain special and are worth becoming mounts. I’m going for 2-3 tur species this year and can’t imagine only pictures. The responsibility rests on the shoulders of the outfitter selected and sorry for your terrible experience. | |||
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Sounds terrible and sorry to hear. | |||
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Germans are like that. I've had clients bringing tanned Zebra skins through Germany only to have them seized by agents. I guarantee you they stole them...because they could. This totally sux  Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Very sorry to hear that! Who did the importation? It is quite unusal to ship trophies without checking the scanned paperwork before the trophies leave the country. And even then you have normally a few month to get it sorted unless it is obviously unsortable. As you know I organize hunts and import many trophies to Germany and that is rather unusual. Regards Dennis | |||
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Sorry to hear that, I am with you 1000%...do not want someone else's animal on the wall. "Let me start off with two words: Made in America" | |||
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