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Workhorse stock up nicely this morning... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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I don't mind betting on other people's stupidity. I've bought and sold TLSA three times and made enough to buy one of their silly vehicles, but that ain't gonna happen. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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Noted recent post on vehicle reliability. TESLA was at the bottom on the list. Below Range Rover and Audi (OUCH). For a vehicle with about 1/3 of the moving parts of a gas powered vehicle it is embarrassing. Again (Below Audi and Range Rover)!!!! The Bad Boy buggies had not put much of a dent in the gas UTV market. I do believe it is a matter time. Looking forward to when nuclear fusion is perfected and the need for fossil fuels is diminished / reduced. | |||
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It's what happens when snowflakes attempt to build a vehicle...  ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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What’ll they do with the batteries when they go bad? Landfill? | |||
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Todd hit it right on the head! That thing is interesting to look at but I certainly would not take that thing in the places I hunt. There are some things that suit the folks who never leave the pavement, or country gravel roads, but the picture at the top of this thread with that jeep in a rock gully is what a REAL off road vehicle has to be able to negotiate, not the parking lot of the football field !  MacD37  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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Not for “Good ol boys”? (now the Dukes of Hazzard song is in my head) What about the Jeep 4XE? It is a gas and electric hybrid that can be both or either powered. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I haven't needed to buy another truck in many years but was talking to a friend tonight whose son was looking for another knock-around truck + it seems the going rate these days for the 80s series is about 6-8K for trucks that DON'T RUN. I don't get it. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Any of these electric trucks would have become a stationary flower pot on our November Bison hunt in Delta Junction. Just sayin' ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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 ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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In the 70s I swore by Chevys, + owned quite a few. Today I'm driving a rice burner Nissan small P.U. that has been very serviceable. But to give the devil his due, what I can say about the Ford trucks that I have owned over the years, "They have NEVER left me on the side of the road." Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Anywhere diesel is used. Battery electric won’t replace or complete for it. Electric does not really compete with diesel regardless of the hype in the battery market. All new electric pickups https://www.caranddriver.com/n...ctric-pickup-trucks/ All new electric vehicles https://www.caranddriver.com/n...lectric-cars-trucks/ The capital that rivian has raised https://www.investors.com/news...pping-investor-ford/ Mike | |||
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Ford is thinking of modular generators https://www.caranddriver.com/n...er-ev-pickup-patent/ Turning a Plug in Hybrid around 180 degrees but keeping a option of recharging batteries via gasoline or diesel or hydrogen. Mike | |||
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GM going electric https://www.gm.com/commitments...AvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Japan going electric https://asia.nikkei.com/Busine...lectric-vehicle-goal Tesla https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/1...rs-combined-why.html I personally think Tesla is a bubble. I am not short it but I short some other battery companies. Exxon that was most anti climate change is moving towards climate change https://www.wsj.com/articles/e...missions-11614787892 I personally think a lot of money will be made in refining, renewable diesel ect and guess (won’t bet) lots of money will be lost in electric vehicle companies (Tesla). But electric is here. Maybe less in us but will dominate Europe, Japan and maybe China. I guess 30-40 percent of cars in 2030 will be electric in the US. Mike | |||
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We need to stop seeing electric as a one size fits all deal. High density car cities, sure, refine and perfect them for metro areas and short commuters. I’m not trusting a battery in the backcountry. Or on a long trip- a 7-minute refill vs. an 8-hour recharge? No thanks. And wait until tbe charging grid is expanded...you think those recharge rates won’t go up? When Tesla (the guy) was talking with Westinghouse about harnessing the earths power to distribute to people, Westinghouse asked, “Where do you put the meter?” Electric will be the new gas... | |||
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agree 100 percent if you read what the European auto guys are saying about electric. they moving to smaller lighter cheaper shorter range batteries. to most consumers of electric vehicles - there is no difference between 200 mil and 400 mil battery range. i expect there to be a ton of good relatively cheap electric vehicles soon. Mike | |||
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/w...uctive-02611691/amp/ you probably will see a lot of these driving around on the roads soon. Mike | |||
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It’s amazing that under the guise of ergonomics and efficiency people are turned into automatons. “Walk 2.5 meters, turn left 60 dsgrees. Extend arm and grasp item. Turn right 60 degrees...” I used to work for a routing and scheduling software company back in the early 90s. Our only competitor was UPS. One of the most effective time saving parameters we had? Eliminate left hand turns. | |||
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LOL. If a FORD never left you on the side of the road broken down, you didn't drive it much! FOUND ON ROAD DEAD!!! | |||
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