All my guns built around Mauser 98. Now I was offered to built light, easy to carry long shooting rifle on Savage action. I have no clue whats the difference and what this action is all about. How it is better then Remington which I never use for custom rifle. Any thoughts?
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Russian:

98 actions have slow lock times and are flimsy (not stiff). They aren't the easiest to bed.

Look to competitive shooters to see what they are using; I bet a 98 hasn't won a ribbon or cup in forty years.

Russian look at this website. You will find the information useful.

6mmbr.com

Thanks big time. I can see all the necessary info

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Russian:

98 actions have slow lock times and are flimsy (not stiff). They aren't the easiest to bed.

Look to competitive shooters to see what they are using; I bet a 98 hasn't won a ribbon or cup in forty years.

Where I can see this info?

Have been shooting competetion, Long Range, for quite a few years and can only remember one or two shooters using a Mauser 98 as their action.
Have asked same question as you long time ago and was told same reasons as mentioned above.
I am not referring to bench style shooting, but NRA prone,sling,style shooting at ranges from 600-1000yds. In reality the Savage actions were not seen until the past decade or so but from all I see and read now, they are working ok. Had one of the very first Savage factory match rifles and it shot fine, but effort to raise bolt after shot was excessive for a prone/sling shooter compared to the Rem. 700 or one of it's clones. Longer bolt handle would help to solve that problem. Extra effort to raise bolt handle in prone style shooting will cause you to "come out of position..." and break your focus or at least it did for me. I would stay with the Rem. 700 action(or clone) for it works for a large number of long range shooters and aftermarket options are endless due to it's popularity and peformance. Would mention that in August near Ottawa the Canadian Full Bore National Matches will be held(I'll be there)and you could observe what actions, equipment, etc. is being used by dedicated long range match shooters. Shooters are generally more than happy to share info and likes and dislikes about their equipment. Just a thought.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Russian:

98 actions have slow lock times and are flimsy (not stiff). They aren't the easiest to bed.

Look to competitive shooters to see what they are using; I bet a 98 hasn't won a ribbon or cup in forty years.

Guys, nobody mentioned Dakota rifles. What do you know about this action? Is it a simplified Mauser or what is that?

expect smaller groups with less effort, and an easily changed headspace if you want near zero

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Originally posted by Russian:

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Russian:

98 actions have slow lock times and are flimsy (not stiff). They aren't the easiest to bed.

Look to competitive shooters to see what they are using; I bet a 98 hasn't won a ribbon or cup in forty years.

Guys, nobody mentioned Dakota rifles. What do you know about this action? Is it a simplified Mauser or what is that?

its a slightly different model 70, which is based on the model 1903 -- don't give me the rubbish about patent infringement.. stripper clips aren't really used so much today in competitive shooting...