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I drew a tag for db134 this Spring in Kodiak. I have a .340 Weatherby. Any suggestions as to bullet and weight to use to anchor a big brownie.
 
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275 grain Swift A-Frame.
 
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or 250 gr Partition Gold Moly Free

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or 250 grn barnes X


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http://www.northforkbullets.com/338-240.htm

this north fork is the best i.m.o. since you are pushing a 338 bullet verrrry fast and the impact velocity will be high you need a tough bullet that will hold together and retain weight...

the barnes x will lose its petals at that speed

next i would say the swift a frame and the nosler partition

but bullet placement is paramount!

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I would go with any of these.

The barnes TSX 250 or 225. or 225 mr-x
failsafe 230
nosler 250 partition
northfork 240
swift a frame 250 or 275

The mr-x are supposed to resist losing the petals but I don't care if they come off myself.

The mr-x and 250 tsx are new for 2006


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My preferences would be Northfork first and then Nosler Partition. I've found that Northforks are slightly more accurate in my rifles than the Partitions.
Since I've always had good results with these, I've never tried anything else so can't comment.
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The 250 NP is an awesome bullet in the 340 and it comes in a factory load if you don't reload.


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twilli, .338cal.s,- very good bullet don't matter what, weatherby included is the 250 grn. Partition. 2700-2800fps is alot of ummph with a SD of .313--in anyones book. Of course you can spend your dollars on any bullet you want but the partition says it all-I use em in both my .338's--cheers.
 
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I shoot a .340 Wby and a .338 Lapua. The .340 I took on a Moose hunt in Grizz country and at the time used a 250 grain Nosler Partition Gold that shot really well in my rifle. Since that trip I have shot many other bullets, one in particular stood out above all the rest. The North Fork 240 grain bullet would be my choice without a doubt, if I ever go back into Big Bear country with either of the mentioned chamberings. I have used the bullet on Elk and it shoots extremely well in both my rifles. If I were you I would at least give it an chance and see how it performs in your rifle and go from there. wave Good luck and good shooting.


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Don't play w/ the bears unless your gun is big enough.I shoot the 375 ultra mag w/ 300 grain bullets.That is enough gun.But i had a freiend once say who owned a 460 weatherby that "he shot a 460 because they didnt make a 640".
 
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Don't play w/ the bears unless your gun is big enough.I shoot the 375 ultra mag w/ 300 grain bullets.That is enough gun.But i had a freiend once say who owned a 460 weatherby that "he shot a 460 because they didnt make a 640".


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congrats on the the tag.

in factory ammo i use wthby factory ammo 250 gr. n.p. and would not use bullets lighter than 250 gr. for that hunt.

if you are handloading like b.i.f. said the northfork is good. use 300 gr. n.f. or n.p. either one kills critters dead quick. Wink


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got my last one with a swift a frame. guide said he had seen 3 instances of nosler partitions not penetrating & "coming apart" his next preferance was trophy bonded/ chaz
 
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speaking from my own experience.

i found several slugs, nicely mushroomed that went all the way thru the b.b. shoulder and slugs were found up against the opposite side hide. which was like very thick, very strong wet elastic. broke both shoulders in several places.

when the day comes that i see one of my n.p. fragmented, that would likely be the day that i switch to a more modern designed bullet. till then i am batting 1000%.


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cold zero, I have shot the 210 Part. in grizz and in moose and they do "fragmentate" I do not like that discript. though. I have yet to see the 250's breakdown on what I shoot. The .338 flies them 210 abit fast-the swifts would hold up better. I am anxious to try out the NORTH F's this spring with all the hubbub I read about.
 
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I am going to try some 250 grain northfork bullets and some 250 grain swift a-frame's. Superior Ammunition is going to load the bullets for me. Anyone ever use Superior Ammunition before? How did you like the quality of bullets?
 
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twilli ----- I load North Fork bullets for many of my rifles, in my opinion there is no better to shoot, and it normally shoots better than any other bullets in my rifles. I buy quite a bit of brass from Superior. They load the best factory loads you can buy. Now that they load the North Fork bullets you could not choose a better combo, if you don't reload yourself. wave thumb Good luck and good shooting.


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*** FIRST CHOICE - 300 Gr. ***

( IMHO ) , --- Having read some of Elmer Keith's developoment of the .333 OKH , -- which is the forerunner of Winnie's .338 Mag.
--- there are a few strong points for the 300 Gr. Bullet .

When Winchester developed the series , they did a lot of research ; -- and ORIGINALLY OFFERED A 300 GR. LOADING IN THE .338 . --- This was not without forethought and reason .

( I've said this so much , -- even I'm getting tired of hearing myself say it ) ; -- but the .338 is not normally a " Stopping " , -- D.G Round , and since Kodiak Is. is famous for a Large-Variety of Brown Bear , -- a prospective Hunter , must consider the Charge .

Anything in .338 Cal. is stretching it , in this sense , -- so I think it's reasonable to go with the heaviest ( Major-Manufactured ) bullets available .

Hawk Bullets makes a 300 Gr. , with a thick , .035 jacket , RN , -- that would be my choice .

Interestingly , Phil Shoemaker , ( vastly experienced Brown Guide ) , in my thread about , " Brown Bear Stopping " ; cites the 300 Gr. bullet in .338 among his favored Cartridges , effective on Large Bear .

Under any circumstances , for Jumbo Bears , you should have lots of penetration from any angle , into the vitals , -- and lots of heavy bone breaking potential .

With the velocity of the .340 , -- fragment shedding , and wt. loss , is anathema , and thicker jackets w/ engineered cores are best .

The massive Sectional density of the 300 , is legendary , -- it functions to keep a shot in-line within the carcass , even after hitting bone .

-- A friend of mine , who used to write for a leading Magazine , took a Caribou at two hundred yds. with the Win. Factory 300 Grainer .

-- He was an excellent shot , but was using iron sights for the shot , ( don't ask me why , -- long story ) ; -- and the front bead subtended the entire front of the animal .

The shot dropped to the right side , and the bullet broke , I believe , six ( 6 ) ribs , in line , without deflecting . He remarked , -- " . . . . now THAT'S sectional density " .

I believe that's what you need for Brown Bear , as well .

If you can't make reloads with the Hawk , -- next choice would be Swift's 275 Gr. A-Frame ; -- and if you want Factory , I'd say , go with Weatherby's heaviest .

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grizz007;

i have only used the 250 gr. n.p. out of my .340 w.m. and i have no experience with the 210 n.p..


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