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04 August 2007, 10:31
J P Baker
Argali horns on E bay
There is a set of 48" Argali horns on E-bay but they do not know what they are. Just listed as " huge set of rams horns ". What is something like these worth?


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05 August 2007, 21:42
blaser93
Must be gone , I can't find them.
05 August 2007, 23:56
J P Baker
Here is the Item number: 330153037827

just copy and paste in the ebay search bar and it will come up, it has four days left.


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06 August 2007, 21:45
L. David Keith
Hey John,
Something tells me they are horns from a domestic Barbaroussa ram and not Argali. I could be wrong but the only way to be 100% would be to have dna testing done. What do you think? Good hunting, David


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06 August 2007, 22:18
SGraves155
David, I'm betting on Argali. 14 inch base, Horn lenths of 48 inches.




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06 August 2007, 23:01
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quote:
Originally posted by L. David Keith:
Hey John,
Something tells me they are horns from a domestic Barbaroussa ram and not Argali. I could be wrong but the only way to be 100% would be to have dna testing done. What do you think? Good hunting, David

I agree.


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07 August 2007, 01:49
J P Baker
quote:
Originally posted by L. David Keith:
Hey John,
Something tells me they are horns from a domestic Barbaroussa ram and not Argali. I could be wrong but the only way to be 100% would be to have dna testing done. What do you think? Good hunting, David


No, I have worked on hundreds of Barbados and this is not a Barbados ram. Taking into account the length,circumference,flare and growth rings I feel it is an Argali (Marco Polo?,Stumberg ?). There is a Argali cross in Texas called Stumberg Sheep.

Stumberg Sheep (Ovis musimon x Ovis ammon) - In 1969, the owner of the Patio Ranch took 5 European mouflon ewes to a facility in Oklahoma that had a lone argali ram with no females. Five offspring were born the following winter. The females of those offspring were returned to the same facility the next year and bred back to their father. The progeny of that male and these mouflon ewes were the start of the hybrid sheep herd on the Patio Ranch. A number of years later, a member of the hunting community in Texas coined the term “Stumberg Sheep†to name these hybrids and the term took hold. The argali sheep are the largest of the world’s wild sheep. The hybrids have coloration very similar to European mouflon, but have much larger bodies and greater horn size reflecting the argali influence. The largest ram to date is over 45†on the curl with bases of over 12â€.


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07 August 2007, 08:44
L. David Keith
Hi John, I remember the Stumberg's as I became a scorer for Thompson Temples Records of Exotics years ago. However, I've only seen pictures of them and never examimed one. Could be an Argali but I've dealt with a number of "old slicks" on Ebay for years and they always seem to never know what they're selling, yet $500 seems a little high for "sheep horns" from the unknowing. The largest Barbaroussa I ever mounted was just over 42 inches and was 2.5 curls. You could be on the money but caveat emptor to anyone that buys them. It's amazing what shows up on Ebay. Keep us posted on the selling price. Anyone got an extra Argali cape for sale Smiler Good hunting, David


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12 August 2007, 06:43
J P Baker
They sold for 710.01


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13 August 2007, 02:14
L. David Keith
Thanx for the update. I wonder if the buyer realizes what they are...other than sheep horns?


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16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
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Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
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Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
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10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
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"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
14 October 2007, 07:49
D99
Just saw this.

I would hesitate to say they are Argali. I have seen "barbirousa" Rambouillet (domestic wool breed from France) rams with horns that size, and they are fairly light colored.

I guess they could be Argali horns, but the odds are super slim.

Maybe?