5 X Days accommodation
1 x Lion
1 x Lioness
Total $22500.00
Observers $250.00 per day

Day fees Includes
01. Service of a Licensed Professional Hunter
02. The service of trained trackers
03. The service of trained skinners
04. Hunting vehicle
05. Field preparation of trophies
06. Accommodation, meals and soft drinks as well as beer and wine in moderation
07. Daily laundry service

Day fees do not include
01. All air travel before and after the contracted period of the Safari
02. Accommodation and travel charges incurred before and after the contracted period of the Safari
03. Transfer by road from international airports to camp
04. Trophy fees for animals taken or wounded
05. All air charters
06. Gratuities to Professional hunters and other staff members
07. Preparation, packing, documentation and export of trophies
08. Rifle hire and ammunition
09. Rifle import permits
10. Hunting cards/permits
11. Travelling between concessions

Limpopo Big Game Safaris

P.O. Box 1763
Louis Trichardt
0920
Limpopo
South Africa

26 Stubbs Street
Louis Trichardt
0920
Limpopo
South Africa

Bossie Mostert
Cell Phone: +27 711 528 411
Email: lbgsafaris@yahoo.com

First,welcome to AR.

This is a tough arena to offer this type of Lion hunt, but a few soft questions...
How large is the enclosure that will be hunted?
How long before the hunt will the lions be released into the enclosure?
Where in ZA will this hunt take place?
Thanks

Hi Bob

Thanks for the Welcome note

Yes you are right, any forum is a tough arena to offer a Lion hunt in South Africa.
Lion hunts in South Africa are under the spotlight, but if it is done according to the norms and standards required by each province I can’t see why it is wrong.

Regulation requires 1000ha (2470 acres)
The hunt is conducted on 2800ha (6918 acres) in the Kalahari (Mafikeng)
Track and Stalk method is the only way we hunt these Lions

Regulation requires 24 hours after it has been released to be hunted
The Lion is released 7 days prior to the client’s arrival

Please note that the norms and standards required do differ from province to province, these regulations are for the North West Province.

Kind regards Bossie Mostert

Bossie...thanks for the straight up clarifications.

bobgrow

Would it make any difference if the Lion was released on 70 000 Ha high fenced property, just a soft question.

Ferdi...no, just a hard answer.

Nice to see clarification on this safari. A good offer from LBGS.

Thanks for being a straight shooter. Good luck selling this hunt.

At least he's totally honest about the hunt/offer. I say good luck and hopefully you sell it quickly.

I wish my recent Tanzania lion hunt only took 7 days, rather than 3 weeks!

What are the trophy fees for the lion and lioness?


Geoff

Mr Mostert:

Are you the gentleman that breeds the white lions?

quote:

He said "John it's just my job and I hope you understand"
Hey calling it your job ol' hoss sure don't make it right
But if you want me to I'll say a prayer for your soul tonight

sure don't make what right? The man has advertised a legal offer, and it would appear, has been up front about what the offer is. If what he says is true than the intended game would be private property, no? How would you like for someone else to tell you what you can and cannot do with your personal property, mein herr?

quote:

Originally posted by 505 gibbs:

quote:

He said "John it's just my job and I hope you understand"
Hey calling it your job ol' hoss sure don't make it right
But if you want me to I'll say a prayer for your soul tonight

sure don't make what right? The man has advertised a legal offer, and it would appear, has been up front about what the offer is. If what he says is true than the intended game would be private property, no? How would you like for someone else to tell you what you can and cannot do with your personal property, mein herr?

quote:

Originally posted by Pennsyltucky:
He said "John it's just my job and I hope you understand"
Hey calling it your job ol' hoss sure don't make it right
But if you want me to I'll say a prayer for your soul tonight

I'm trying to decide if this post is weird or surreal...

Aaron:

No. You don't.

Morning Guys

Thanks Bob, please feel free to ask any questions, I will do my best to answer each one of them with honesty and respect to all.

Hi Geoff
The brake up of the hunt is as follow.

1 Day Pick $000.00
5 days accommodation $3000.00
Lion $15000.00
Lioness $4500.00
1 Day Drop off $000.00

The male sells for $15000.00 in a combo but if one would only want the male and not the female the trophy fee for the male will be $19000.00 as it is on my website.

Hi Larryshores
Thanks for the good question.
No I am not the gentlemen who breed the Lions (I wish I was) I make use of concessions and this is one of the areas I hunt. Mostly Lion and species not found in my area (Limpopo) such as Black Wildebeest, Springbuck, Red Hartebeest etc.

Hi Pennsyltucky
He said "John it's just my job and I hope you understand"
Hey calling it your job ol' hoss sure don't make it right
But if you want me to I'll say a prayer for your soul tonight

Where does this come from???

If I have missed anyone’s question please be so kind to repost or send me a mail

Kind regards to all
Bossie Mostert

quote:

Originally posted by Jerry Huffaker:

quote:

Originally posted by 505 gibbs:

quote:

He said "John it's just my job and I hope you understand"
Hey calling it your job ol' hoss sure don't make it right
But if you want me to I'll say a prayer for your soul tonight

sure don't make what right? The man has advertised a legal offer, and it would appear, has been up front about what the offer is. If what he says is true than the intended game would be private property, no? How would you like for someone else to tell you what you can and cannot do with your personal property, mein herr?

"Rain on the Scarecrow" by John Mellencamp.

Mr. Mostert,
Thanks for clarification as the initial offer excluded trophy fees for animals taken or wounded. For those who wish to take a lion and lioness in such a manner, this is an exceptional deal.

Geoff

Pennsy - Let us know how you really feel about this offer!!

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

quote:

Originally posted by Pennsyltucky:
In response to the above:

(i) in my very humble opinion shooting what is, in essence, the world's apex preadator after it has been hand raised and then released in a big pen is crap;

(ii) whats worse, you are repeatedly referencing the legality of the activity, "by province." You're shooting these lions and justifying it by stating that its ok with the government. This is the same government that also not only permits, but encourages the vast, non white, population to suck on the ANC teat pending the total Mugabization of South Africa? I mean really, its OK because THEY say its OK? Legality and Morality are often, and sadly, two different things, "Mien Herr."

(iii) Who in God's name wants to shoot someone's "personal property?" If you invested in ranch lions just so you could have some cracker jackass kill them in a pen then you're a friggn scumbag. Nothing less then a pimp.

I wouldn't want to kill a lion under the offered circumstances and I would wonder why anyone would.

That said, it is refreshing to have someone who is honest about their RSA offer and doesn't mind revealing the details, to include the premises (size) to be hunted, the applicable regulations and the origin of the lion.

In other words, I can find very real reasons to disagree with the offer, but I can't damn the guy who made it and somehow, I can live with that dichotomy.

Ditto JudgeG

IMHO, it is bad form to comment on someone's offer if you aren't interested -- unless it's a positive comment "but I'm broke, already booked, etc."

I poked fun at Aaron on thia public forum and probably should have done so on a PM, but the point is this offer has been honestly represented for what it is. It's legal, it's offered in an honorable fashion and someone might be interested. It's unfair to launch into a philosophical debate on this forum. There is a whole discrete topic for those of you who want to debate that issue. Knock yourselves out.

This sounds like a reasonable deal. Can hunters also shoot cubs? I have a buddy who always wanted a lion cub to accompany his female lion taxidermy mount.

What would be a reasonable price to shoot a cub and lioness combo in 7 days?

P.S. Feel free to release the lion cub just before I arrive so that it looks reasonably healthy when I make the kill-shot. Ideally, I'd want to shoot one that's no more than 35 pounds. Is it cheaper to pay for the trophy by the pound?


P.S.S. Feel free to let your rancher know that he would do the world more good if he actually supported and significantly contributed to conservation efforts in Africa! IMHO, you are a pimp hawking a prostitute's pussy- literally! So WTF!

quote:

Originally posted by Pennsyltucky:
In response to the above:

(i) in my very humble opinion shooting what is, in essence, the world's apex preadator after it has been hand raised and then released in a big pen is crap;

(ii) whats worse, you are repeatedly referencing the legality of the activity, "by province." You're shooting these lions and justifying it by stating that its ok with the government. This is the same government that also not only permits, but encourages the vast, non white, population to suck on the ANC teat pending the total Mugabization of South Africa? I mean really, its OK because THEY say its OK? Legality and Morality are often, and sadly, two different things, "Mien Herr."

(iii) Who in God's name wants to shoot someone's "personal property?" If you invested in ranch lions just so you could have some cracker jackass kill them in a pen then you're a friggn scumbag. Nothing less then a pimp.

Penn,
Take your concerns to another forum. This is not the place to discuss ethics or your hunt choices. While many agree with you, this is a legit offer and he complied with the rules of posting.

Gentlemen
LBG has been up front, sincere and detailed his offer by the rules. Some of the posts here look like they come from PETA not from the hunting community.
JCHB

You see Penny by what you write and say EVERYONE on the forum can see that you have no clue what you are talking about. I referred to THE REGULATION not the ANC. The government don’t set the standards by them self, we have the LION BREEDERS ASSOCIATIONS, PHASA AND OTHER BODIES who set the standards and present it to the MEC.

HAND ROSE? So clean Buffalo in SA is also something you will not hunt.

IT IS A PITY THAT YOU WILL NEVER HUNT A LION IN SOUTH AFRICA; I WOULD HAVE KEPT A CLEAN PAIR OF PANTS FOR YOU IN CAMP.

By hunting one HAND RAISED AND THEN RELEASED Lion you are sure to save the wild Lion of Africa.

You know nothing about hunting or the value of Conservation Penny. HUNTERS PAYS FOR CONSERVATION.

I am sure if you go to GOOGLE you will find a Preen Pease forum to post your crap.
I have been down this road before and have come across fools like you. If you want to discuss this type of hunting start your own post somewhere else.

Hunter54

No we do not shoot cubs but if your buddy wants one he can mail me with his detail, we do have some cubs that die of cat fewer, I will give it to him for free.

quote:

I WOULD HAVE KEPT A CLEAN PAIR OF PANTS FOR YOU IN CAMP.

On the whole, I must say that the Captive lions are far more aggressive towards man than wild lions.
You should not take this lightly as your shooting skills will come into play in a big way.
They are hyper aggressive and a head on charge is not uncommon.

LBG
While it is tempting to match insults with a batch of your own, rather keep to the higher ground. You have been upfront about this hunt and it meets the strict regulations. It may not be everybody's (or my) cup of tea but the childish rants on this forum don't warrant response.
I hope you sell the hunt for the advertised price. In the long run there are not enough wild lions to go around and the price of them (4 or 5 times the price of your offer) will ensure that most hunters never get a chance to take one.
JCHB

quote:

Originally posted by Limpopo Big Game Safaris:
If you want to discuss this type of hunting start your own post somewhere else.

It's an awful short leap to saying that all hunting is evil, for that reason I try to keep from throwing too many stones at my fellow hunters. Even if I don't agree with them or their methods.

quote:

Originally posted by Pennsyltucky:
Hunter 45,

Along with the clean pants, can you keep extra petrol in camp? That way I can have your staff drive me somewhere and do something worthwhile while you go shoot you whiskered cattle.

At the end of the day, I could care less about about your "stock." Given the way that canned lion hunting is justified, over and over, with the excuse that its legal when the promulgators of the laws are continually depicted, and rightly so, as corrupt idiots who only care about their next bribe is what is ridiculous.

hey fool, pay attention. hunter54( who i assume is who you are referring to as hunter 45 and IS NOT AN OUTFITTER) is being facetious( look it up) and seems to be agreeing with you in a round about way. THE PANTS COMMENT WAS MADE BY SOMEONE ELSE. if your attention span is that short, seek professional help- OR STFU as you only make yourself look even more stupid

[/QUOTE]hey fool, pay attention. hunter54( who i assume is who you are referring to as hunter 45 and IS NOT AN OUTFITTER) is being facetious( look it up) and seems to be agreeing with you in a round about way. THE PANTS COMMENT WAS MADE BY SOMEONE ELSE. if your attention span is that short, seek professional help- OR STFU as you only make yourself look even more stupid[/QUOTE]

I love AR it is way more fun than FACEBOOK.

quote:

Originally posted by Limpopo Big Game Safaris:


I love AR it is way more fun than FACEBOOK.

You ain' seen nuthin yet, mate.

Bossie...look at it this way, the slams from a few of our members keeps the thread bouncing back to the top, increasing your marketing reach.
You've laid out the hunt conditions objectively, people can take it or leave it.
Good luck!

BTW...we have members that have only seen a Lion in a city zoo, and the closest they have been to Africa is watching videos.

quote:

Originally posted by bobgrow:
Bossie...look at it this way, the slams from a few of our members keeps the thread bouncing back to the top, increasing your marketing reach.
You've laid out the hunt conditions objectively, people can take it or leave it.
Good luck!

BTW...we have members that have only seen a Lion in a city zoo, and the closest they have been to Africa is watching videos.

quote:

Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:
At least he's totally honest about the hunt/offer. I say good luck and hopefully you sell it quickly.

I wish my recent Tanzania lion hunt only took 7 days, rather than 3 weeks!

Aaron, you only needed 9 days