Outfitter: Brooklands Hunting Safaris/Pete Fick

Animals: Lion/Buffalo

Year: 2010

Country: Zimbabwe

Website: www.jeffcnealinc.com

Agent: Jeff C. Neal, Inc.



Save Conservancy Lion Special - $50,000.00 Inclusive of Trophy fee!


We have a deal in Zimbabwe in the Save Valley Conservancy, a place where they kill some giant cats. The all inclusive lion package for 18 or 21 days is only $50,000, inclusive of trophy fee for lion and buffalo plus daily rates! This hunt price is for 2010 only. Other animals available at a trophy fee basis including Buffalo, Leopard, Waterbuck, Nyala and a large variety of plainsgame animals.

Available dates are:
21 April - 9 May or
Anytime from 7 Sept to 6 Oct or
Anytime from 27 Oct to 30 November

The area is part of the Save Valley Conservancy, a vast, 1,000,000 acre area that is very well known for its Lions. The hunting area itself is 95,000 acres.

Clients can get to the hunting area one of two ways:
• By air - A charter to a registered strip which is a short distance to the west of the Hunting Lodge can be organized. This charter takes approximately 1 hr 20 mins
• Vehicle transfer - is a 4 - 5 hour drive from Harare. Quotations on the above can be provided.


This area is very accommodating to the non-hunter as well. The Camp is in close proximity to various other activities for the non-hunting clients. They are as follows:
• The Zimbabwe Ruins - the famous stone structures of cultural, historical & photographic interest
• The fascinating Chilo cliffs
• The beauty of the Chimanimani mountains
• Cultural visits to the arts & craft centres which typify Zimbabwe.

Please contact Greg Brownlee with Jeff C. Neal, Inc. for more information on this hunt or for booking. This is the only Lion available in the conservancy for 2010 and will not last long.

Jeff C. Neal, Inc.
(918) 299-3580
www.jeffcnealinc.com
Greg4jeffcneal@aol.com

$50K.........Is this a bargain?

Jason - Considering the quality of some of the lions in the Save, and comparable prices of the same quality lion hunts in Zambia or Tanzania, its not a bad deal at all. JMO of course.

Ditto that

Yes, I think it is. I paid $2,000 per day to do the same thing last year with Zambezi Hunters. That is $42,000 of daily rates alone.

Lots of lions in the Save. I had better luck in the first 10 days there than I did in my previous 63 days in Tanzania.

Wow, I had no idea that the Save commanded such a high price......I suppose if a person has a better than average chance at a big Shumba there then it makes sense..........

My how I wish I had the $$

Indeed, it is the going rate. I'm booked for Save lion for 2012 in the same price bracket. Cheaper than Tanz by more than half, but on the whole the hunt is more successful than Tanz.

BTW, getting back to this hunt, I'm not a buyer at 50k, but I'm having a pretty good year so far. If this hunt is still available in May or June and the operator is ready to negotiate, I might be the man to call.

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Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
Indeed, it is the going rate. I'm booked for Save lion for 2012 in the same price bracket. Cheaper than Tanz by more than half, but on the whole the hunt is more successful than Tanz.

BTW, getting back to this hunt, I'm not a buyer at 50k, but I'm having a pretty good year so far. If this hunt is still available in May or June and the operator is ready to negotiate, I might be the man to call.

Sounds good, I will keep that in mind. There are a few other of our regular clients looking at it but I will remember to give you a shout in May or June!

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Cheaper than Tanz by more than half, but on the whole the hunt is more successful than Tanz.

Tanzania hunters shoot more Lions (every year) than ZIM, Zambia, Mocambique together.



Seloushunter

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Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
Cheaper than Tanz by more than half, but on the whole the hunt is more successful than Tanz.
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You'll excuse me for saying so but that comment is far from true.

We're far from the cheapest in Tanzania but nor are we anywhere near the most expensive and we sell a full bag 21 day safari for US$49K plus a trophy fee of US$7K and on that hunt the client also has 3 Buff, a leopard, a lion and umpteen other animals a well.

I'm not criticising this Zim hunt at all but to compare this to a Tanzanian hunt is comparing apples to oranges. Both are good but both are very different from each other.

Steve: Please do find me a hunt in Tanzania for lion, leop, and three buff for $50k that actually produces the quality of lions that are being shot on the Save with the success rates posted by the Save and I'll buy the hunt. Having spent some time on the issue, Tanz Big Game Safaris would be my starting point if I were headed to Tanz, but that fine hunt costs not a penny less than $125,000, all in. I hear TGTS to be in the same ballpark these days.

Greg: Sorry you got hijacked. Big Save lions are marveous. That lion in the post, shot by "bronxfats" who posts here, is fabulous . . . my dream lion. I first posted pictures of that lion on AR shortly after he returned from his safari. That lion and ones like him are what have me and my $$$ going to the Save for lion in 2012 UNLESS the right deal came along and I got to go and hunt him in 2010. (HINT)

Cheers to all.

Will - Mostly you're right. For $50k all-in, it would be tough in TZ to beat that in a good area. But the offer only includes the LION, not leopard, buffalo, etc. So that of course would make it more expensive. And to get someone in the Save to give you 3 buffalo, see what they quote you then? Although you could maybe do it for that price in some excellent areas of TZ in 2010.

But Steve is right about one thing, the Save hunt is great, I shot a very good lion there in 2008, and really like the place. But comparing the Save to places in Rungwa, Lukwati, the Moyowosi, Masailand, etc, etc, is definitely not comparing apples to apples.

By the way, speaking from PERSONAL/HUNTING experience, I would avoid TBGS. JMO.

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:
And to get someone in the Save to give you 3 buffalo, see what they quote you then?

Agreed. Unless you were buying up some leftover buff quota, I suspect a lion, leop, and three buff offering would run the hunt somewhere around $80k.

Will,

I think you needs to re-read what I said in my post buddy.

I quoted you as saying "Cheaper than Tanz by more than half" and replied that the statement was incorrect. Our prices are about middle of the road and we charge US$49K plus a trophy fee of US$7K..... although perhaps my reply wasn't clear enough and I apologise if that was the case.

What I meant was that the Tz 21 day safari also gives you a whole lot of other species on the licence that the hunter can take for trophy fee only.

This hunt looks good but to compare it to a Tanzanian hunt is comparing apples to oranges. Both are good but both are different.

My apologies to Greg for wandering off topic.

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Originally posted by safari-lawyer:

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:
And to get someone in the Save to give you 3 buffalo, see what they quote you then?

Agreed. Unless you were buying up some leftover buff quota, I suspect a lion, leop, and three buff offering would run the hunt somewhere around $80k.

Will - Totally agree with that.

Steve - Now it would only be fair to compare areas, and quality of the Lions from your hunt to the Save too, if you are gonna compare prices. Where is your hunt, what location, with who??

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Originally posted by shakari:
Will,

I think you needs to re-read what I said in my post buddy.

I quoted you as saying "Cheaper than Tanz by more than half" and replied that the statement was incorrect. Our prices are about middle of the road and we charge US$49K plus a trophy fee of US$7K..... although perhaps my reply wasn't clear enough and I apologise if that was the case.

What I meant was that the Tz 21 day safari also gives you a whole lot of other species on the licence that the hunter can take for trophy fee only.

This hunt looks good but to compare it to a Tanzanian hunt is comparing apples to oranges. Both are good but both are different.

My apologies to Greg for wandering off topic.

No Problem Steve, please note that this hunt includes both Lion and Buffalo trophy fees in the $50,000.

Greg

Aaron,

It'd depend on what other criteria the client had and frankly, depending on those, I'm not even sure I'd recommend the SGR at all.

At the risk of hijacking Greg's post again, if someone had lion as their most important species, I'd probably suggest somewhere like the west or perhaps the north.

The Selous does produce good lions sometimes but I'm sure I don't need to tell you it's no where near the best part of Tanzania for 'em.

But none of that is really relevent. The only point I was trying to make is that the two types of safari are so different from each other they can't really be compared in any relevent manner.

I certainly wasn't criticising Greg's offer in any way.

Steve - I knew you were not criticizing the hunt, don't worry about that my friend.