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Ok guys, I have gotten all of the details worked out with Mako Matt, and here is what we have come up with for the 2011 Season. This is a fairly new concept, and if you saw Jim Shockeys Professionals episode of Sharks, this is the same captain and same area. I went out this year as well and filmed an episode of Predator Pursuit with Matt, and had an awesome trip! It is really hard to explain how great this trip is. There is nothing like having sharks chewing on the back of the boat, then being able to shoot them with a bow and then reel them in on a rod and reel! The season will start in June, and run through October. Here are the rest of the details. Smaller boat-$1,100 a day BIG boat- $2500 a day Local 8 hr. trip (Discounted)- $1,100 a day, was $1500 That gets you Boat, Chum, Food on the boat, Bowfishing gear, Fishing License, Airport pickup and drop off. 2 Mako sharks per person per day. Smaller Boat $2500 a day BIG boat- $2750 a day Monster Mako Trip- 12 hour trip. This gets you the same as listed above, except you will be using MASSIVE amounts of Chum, which has a better chance of pulling up the Giants! There is a Trophy fee of $1 per pound on any shark over 300lbs. This covers Matts time of getting a boat trailer to load the fish on and also the time of butchering the fish. Yes, I said boat trailer! The cost is for the entire boat, so it can be split up between up to 4 guys. I am sure you guys will have a ton of questions, and I am sure I missed some things, so feel free to ask. Thanks, Jeff Thomason Mako Video | ||
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Where is the boat out of? Looks like fun, I have shot hundreds of fish with my bow and it is a blast. I saw the Shockey show and this looked like a professional outfit. "The difference between adventure and disaster is preparation." "The problem with quoting info from the internet is that you can never be sure it is accurate" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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This really is an awesome trip with a great outfit. The boats are out of Huntington Beach California. You can fly into John Wayne Airport which is only 30 minutes from there. Also, if you are not a bowfisherman, you can catch them on rod and reel as well. By far the best fight I have ever had on Rod. You can expect to see several sharks per day on this trip. | |||
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Here's a question: how many mako pups do you guys kill a year? ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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I don't understand this. Tom Addleman tom@dirtnapgear.com | |||
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Jeff, This sounds awesome. In regards to the local 8 hr trip for 1100.00 how many can split that cost. We would be looking at a group of 4. Myself and my 3 sons ages 23, 18, 15 , all avid boaters fishermen with bow experience. After a trip like this I don't know if we'll want to go surfing again. Let me know your recommendations. Thanks Scott | |||
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Hey Scott, I can promise you I will NOT be surfing anymore! I could not believe how many sharks that were showing up at the boat...4 People is a little tight for the small boat, but it can be done. I would consider the bigger boat, just so there is plenty of room. Also I would recommend 2 days just so everyone gets some action, whether it is on the rod, or the bow. This is gonna be a great trip for you guys! | |||
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I forgot to add that the BIG boat can be taken on the 8 hr local trip for $1,650 a day. A little more money, but ALOT of extra room. | |||
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Lots of sportfishermen would encourage you to catch and release the small Makos, rather than shoot them. They are a premier sport-fish on rod and reel, and are a bit rare. Steve "He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin Tanzania 06 Argentina08 Argentina Australia06 Argentina 07 Namibia Arnhemland10 Belize2011 Moz04 Moz 09 | |||
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Everybody thinks they are rare, until you go on this trip. Also what do you consider a small Mako? We dont shoot them unless they are around 200 plus | |||
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Thanks Jeff. If I decide to put together a trip for this summer should I contact you at www.PredatorPursuit.com or PM you. Thanks Scott | |||
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You can just shoot me a pm or email me. Jeffreythomason@hotmail.com | |||
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In "Shark Water" big and little take different meanings. How long are the boats please? | |||
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The small boat is 28 feet and the big boat is 37 feet. Big enough to feel somewhat safe... | |||
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A 200 lb. mako IS a juvenile--like the one you've got in the first pic. That other fish looks more like a blue dog. Monster mako trip, huh? Sheeit. The one in the video is a nice size. Any particular reason you slobs chose to let the thing suffer like that on land, rather than just put it out of its misery? Freaking googans. ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Hey Gari, Obviously you are a professional Mako fisherman, and I apologize if a 200lb shark is considered a juvenile. Does it matter if I shoot a year and a half old deer? What is the difference in killing a young pig? Dead is Dead, and as long as it is legal and I enjoy doing it, I will continue to do so. The pic is one that I reeled in, and he was around the 225 or so mark. Many 700 Plus pounders have been taken on this boat. I would consider that a Monster. You shouldnt go around talking about things in which you are ignorant too. Please keep your negative hunting views to yourself. | |||
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And yes Gari, that is a Blue shark in the other pic. That is another option on the trip as well. You can shoot them or catch them on rod and reel. | |||
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The difference, dickhead, is that deer and pigs aren't borderline endangered species. You've got some balls calling me the ignorant one. You come here looking to dupe some unsuspecting chumps into thinking they're getting a real 'hunt', and passing it off like some kind of offshore dangerous game safari is the real joke. 'Many 700 pounders', huh? That so, why do you choose to post a pic of a 150 lb mako pup, and a dead, run of the mill bluedog? A little misleading, to say the least. You can't even eat a blue, and they're about as docile as a housecat. I've reached out and pet them on several occasions for chrissakes, and after boating them, turn them loose after a quick fight. Why kill the thing? If you want to keep the jaws, fine, but the hero shit is ridiculous. If you can hit a basketball at 2 feet with a bow, you're ready to shoot a blue dog. Big challenge. Guess what: some folks here actually know a thing or two about fishing, and sharking. But go on with yo' bad self, o' slayer of pups. You're a real credit to the 'hunting' community. ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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I think it shows poor taste to attack a guys thread. If you dont like it, move on. Being an a-hole isn't going to do anything. | |||
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That right? Well I for one think it's in poor taste to try to dupe people here into thinking they're going to get one thing, and paying a lot of money for it, when they're actually going to get another. To sit idly by and let people get taken is not my style. You don't like it? Tough darts. There are plenty of folks right on this site that WISH they would've been told a thing or two--a TRUTHFUL thing or two--about hunt they bought, by someone who knew, before they pulled the trigger. Are you selling something too? ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Well Dick, here are the reasons you are ignorant, and jumped to conclusions on yet again another thread. 1st off, I am not making any money by selling these trips. The only benefit I get, is a discount on my trips for my SEMI successful TV show. So I have no reason to mislead ANYONE about ANYTHING on this trip. Secondly the reason I posted the pics that I did post, is because these are the sharks that I was personally involved in taking. Yes we took other sharks as well, but they were not "mine". I live in TX so any shark is a trophy to me. On another note, you sound like an anti who is pushing for the wolf or something. I have been on the boat only 3 times and seen MULTIPLE Mako sharks and Blue sharks. I bet if you went looking for other "Borderline Endangered" animals you would have hell finding that many. Are Blue sharks docile? Yes, much more than the Mako. Did I enjoy nailing them with a bow? Hell Yes. Did I break any laws. I think not. If you would like to see pics of the 700 pounders, I will be happy to get them for you. I have not been on the boat when one was taken, so I dont have the pictures on me. Personally the biggest I have seen is around the 450-500 pounder (best estimate), which never offered me a shot. But that is the way it goes when you try and take them with a bow. Could I have caught him on rod and reel? There is no doubt in my mind. I take a big offense to someone calling me a liar. Those are the FACTS about the trip, and if you have any legitimate questions I will be more than happy to answer them for you. If I can figure it out, I will post a few more links so you all can become more educated. Gari, I appreciate you looking out for other people on the site, but there are many other ways of doing it without being a prick. Thanks. Jeff | |||
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Mako Pups are 24-29.5 in (60-75 cm) long at birth; most individuals encountered are 6-8 ft (1.8-2.5 m) long and 135-300 lb (60-135 kg) in weight; maximum known length is (3.9 m), based on a 500-lb (227-kg) female specimen from the Indian Ocean, but exceptional individuals have been reported to weigh up to 1 250 lb (570 kg). | |||
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Here is a link for you guys to enjoy that came from Jim Shockeys show that he filmed with the SAME Outfit..Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raWLfGhifbM | |||
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A bunch of seagulls, some mediocre blue dogs and a mako caught with rod and reel. What was your point again, as it relates to this shark bowhunt? You're grasping at straws, pal. ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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That's OK. I can just look at the ten footer I have on my wall. One doesn't have to be an anti to see, and call a turd a turd. And yeah, I have been ripped off on both hunting and fishing trips, and yeah, I'm still bitter about it, and whenever I can, try to steer any other poor stiffs right before getting screwed by the maggots in the business of selling unrealistic expectations and grossly exaggerated fishing and hunting trips, of which there is NO shortage. P.S. The term pup is common in waters I fish, and is not literal. It means small or young fish, generally. But then, not being salty, I guess you'd not know anything about that... ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Bingo. ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Jeff you put it very well soup to nuts. as far as the "other" post I would like to see direct links to how the mako is endangered..... Oh and not the one sided bunny I mean fish hugging site... soooooooooooo once again Kamo and other posters on the site, is he illegal ? is it posted wrong ? is it advertised well ? ahhhhhhhhhhhh yes. I agree on rod and reel it would be awesome, to some a bow awesome, on a photo safari awesome.... it is what it is and it's POSTED !. | |||
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Sorry "ahhhhh ye"s was that it was posted correct not illegal or posted wrong. | |||
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I think for those with no intrest and the dream without the funds dont respond to threads where they're selling a product busting a mans balls for making a living gotta love liberals | |||
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Ah, and the buddy/brown nose gang begins trickling in. First, let's try to work on the reading comprehension, shall we, Mr. Five Posts? Never once did I suggest that what was offered was illegal. Nor did I ever suggest that the shortfin mako was currently classified as endangered. That said, if you think that big makos are commonplace and abundant, you're telling everyone here that you've not spent much time at sea fishing. You can pretend I'm a bunny hugging hippie, but you'd be dead wrong (batting about 1000 ), but the fact is, I couldn't care less how you view me. Just because it's not illegal doesn't make it right. Christ, the video showing the big mako asphixiating, suffering a tormented death on the ramp was a f*cking disgrace. NO respect for the fishery, or fish. Makes all fishermen look like slobs. 30 seconds with a knife in the hands of someone who actually knows what they're doing, or better yet, employing a bang stick boatside on a fish to be taken ain't rocket science. But then the footage of the shark flopping around wouldn't have been around for you guys to proudly display... As far as proof, do your own homework. So how many monster makos have you skewered so far, Ahab? ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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You got me. Lefty liberal with neither interest nor the funds to pay some donkey to take me out to chum up a few bluedogs for me to fling arrows at. Your crystal ball's broken, I'm afraid. ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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If you felt is was directed at you then so be it but like I said busting a mans balls for trying to make a living is a foolish thing to do if its not illegal just not up to your ethics standards then dont buy it. | |||
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Mostly agree, and I'm not suggesting that this is a flat-out ripoff, but to those who may think it sounds like a raging adventure--and worth a couple/few grand--well, OK. But don't you think some folks, particularly landlocked lubbers, might want to know from someone with a little experience about what they're going to do? It apparently sounds like a wild adventure, but I mean really, shooting freaking BLUE SHARKS you've chummed up? P.T. Barnum was so right. With a day to burn, a little gas and about 50 bucks worth of chum--if you bought it, which you wouldn't need to do if you spent any time at all on the ocean fishing--you can be on bluedogs. I suppose one could take a bluedog, drag it near a dumpster and then arrow the alley cats that came around too, but would you want to? But then, unlike a blue, which will literally let you touch it as it swims alongside the boat, shooting cats could be much more challenging... ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Agreed but its like that alot of places Cali,Florida games raches in the states and in Africa if they didnt have a market for it they wouldnt try to sell it. | |||
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I enjoy shark fishing, and have killed a number of the more common caribean sharks--lemons and blacktips, usually with a bangstick at boatside. Have releashed some young 8-9 ft tigers. As I've gotten older, I tend to release anything I won't eat or the captain sell, or anything that might be in low supply. I may be wrong, but the commercial catch of California Makos seems to indicate a diminishing supply, and for that reason, I would personally prefer catch and release. But catching a big Mako on rod and reel would be exhilarating, and this trip seems to offer an excellent opportunity to do so. . There may be other reasons for the decrease in catch than just population decrease. Steve "He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin Tanzania 06 Argentina08 Argentina Australia06 Argentina 07 Namibia Arnhemland10 Belize2011 Moz04 Moz 09 | |||
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True enough. And OK by me, as long as buyers know what they're getting into and the BS doesn't get too thick in the pimping of the sale he's attempting to make. Again, as one who has been burned by unscrupulous outfits in both fishing and hunting deals, I'm sensitive towards claims that are not exactly what they appear to be, especially for those who have little or no experience in that pursuit. I know a thing or two about fishing, as I've been doing it all my life. Just wanted to toss out a buyer beware message. If folks want to pay to shoot what is essentially a trash fish--and a pussycat of one at that; hell, I've whipped 150 lb bluedogs on a 20 lb class bass rig--with the promise that "monster" makos are not only possible but plentiful, but adds that anything over whatever the weight was would cost more per pound over? Are you shitting me? Sell away, OP. ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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I'm not entirely convinced, seeing that the OP seems to think that fish he's got in the OP is a large mako. And you're right, anyone who enjoys fishing should be so lucky as to hook into a truly large mako. On any class gear, you whip a big, badassed mako to the boat on rod and reel, you've accomplished something and experienced something very special. But this experience is being sold as a BOWFISHING trip. Hmm. Chumming small ones like that up, ones who've not bred, and then arrowing them? The one I killed was a large, mature female. I did so after making the call at the boat, as it was bleeding badly from a hook in the gills and IMO, not likely to survive. Will I likely kill another? Maybe, but it sure as hell won't be one that'd fit in a large hotdog bun. ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Gari, you have tried your best to turn this topic into a "gari show". Congrats on your big mako. Hopefully I will be able to get one as big as yours this year. I know the boat will take quite a few that big, and probably a few bigger than that. Hopefully I will be fortunate enough to be on the boat when it does. But it is like any other trip, you just never know what is going to show up. Thanks again for all of your professional input. It really showed your class. I think after reading many of your posts over the years, it is what has become expected of you. A real class act. | |||
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Read my posts over the years, huh? Well that's amazing, since you've been here 3 years and have contributed a whopping 43 posts. Gee, that's more than a post a month! Oops, wait, 13 of them were on this thread with your defending your great offer for MONSTER MAKOS WITH A BOW! OK, so that's a whole ten posts a year. Hmm. But let's consider the content of your wondrous contributions here before improperly passing judgment, shall we? On the first of three pages of posts listed of your input, 100% of them involve your trying to sell something. But I know you're a team player at heart, and offer heartfelt advice, experiences shared and your opinions based on nothing but good will toward your fellow sportsmen, right? How many experiences of your own have you taken the time to write up? Helped someone when there was nothing but a thanks in return? You're basically a freaking phony, and don't even have the balls to admit you're here simply to take advantage of the free marketing Saeed provides. Hey, do what you will, but enough of the trying to portray yourself as a disinterested good guy passing on a great offer. It's embarrassing, and insulting to boot. ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Gari, you win... | |||
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