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 Here we go again. Thanks! Brian Clark Blue Skies Hunting Adventures www.blueskieshunting.com Email at: info@blueskieshunting.com African Cape Trophy Safaris www.africancapesafaris.com Email at: brian@africancapesafaris.com 1-402-689-2024 | |||
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Blazing Star Safaris License nr.0225 PH - Simon Siziba # 518 | |||
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[/QUOTE] Blazing Star Safaris License nr.0225 PH - Simon Siziba # 518[/QUOTE] Blazing Star Safaris - Owned by ? They don't seem to have a website under that name  | |||
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Thanks for clearing that up, now everyone knows! martinpieterssafaris@gmail.com www.martinpieterssafaris.com " hunt as if it's your last one you'll ever be on" | |||
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Martin, Can you clearify if the named company and PH are a legal operation and are the properties to be hunted associated with anyone on the US banned list? I may owe Bouna an apology. "There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark | |||
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Simon Siziba is registered as a a licensed PH # 518 with Zim National parks, first licensed in 2008, you would need to contact SOAZ ( SALLY ) soaz@mweb.co.zw to find out if Blazing Star Safaris is registered. As far as the US banned list is concerned, they have not listed the names of the properties, the directors or the owners so I cannot comment. martinpieterssafaris@gmail.com www.martinpieterssafaris.com " hunt as if it's your last one you'll ever be on" | |||
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Thanks Martin. Bouna, please list the names of the properties, the directors and the owners. "There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark | |||
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I am specifically interested in the names of the properties, the directors, or the owners in the Gwayi. Thanks, Mike  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Yes please, an answer to this is needed. | |||
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Bouna - A little more info if you would?  Larry Sellers SCI Life Member | |||
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My son and I hunted in the Gwayi Conservancy in 2002, on land owned since the 1940's by the Chatham family. Six weeks after we left the Chathams were arrested, imprisoned, and their land confiscated. I understand they are now living in the UK. I could never in good conscience hunt on what was previously someone's land that was seized by the government, no matter how great the deal, nor how "legal" it might be, either in Zimbabwe or under U.S. law. LTC, USA, RET Benefactor Life Member, NRA Member, SCI & DSC Proud son of Texas A&M, Class of 1969 "A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?" Robert Browning | |||
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"This is not available anymore and thank you for the PMs, support and candid comments. Apology to those offended, will not happen again" I think it might be a good idea for you to answer the questions asked, and clear this up. Because I can assure you that many people will stay away from Bouna Safaris in the future. What you were offering did not sound right, which might be due to some misunderstanding.. But leaving it hanging like this - and I see that you have edited your signature and removed all the contact details of your company as you posted on your first post - might leave a very sour taste in members mouths. Temporary website (New one under construction) Bouma Safaris BOUMA SAFARIS +27827084169 +27125467179 versterm@telkomsa.net | |||
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Saeed, There is still a website listed under Bouma's AR public profile: http://forums.accuratereloadin...profile&u=3201051731 http://boumasafaris.yolasite.com/ Seems to be a South African Company. From the website...
I don't want to be unfair to anybody, but I can't help notice the prevalence of South African operators in what are often shady deals in Zimbabwe in the last decade or so.It seems that the land grab in Zim opened opportunities for operators outside Zim to offer hunting on confiscated lands. At times with problems for the participating hunters (trophy export etc), and certainly ethically questionable when considering the circumstances under which the land was acquired by their current "owners". - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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Sure glad nobody jumped to conclusions... A lot can be learned by the way people respond to questions. Often more information than whether someone has been charged, tried, and found guilty. After all John Gotti was charged and tried a lot of times but rarely convicted. Mike What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Well I hope you dont hunt anywhere in the UNITED STATES...cause there were some people here a long time ago who got their land jacked and put onto reservations if my memory serves me correctly! haha | |||
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Does this mean you will be refunded in Zim dollars?  Jerry Huffaker State, National and World Champion Taxidermist Huffaker Taxidermy Studio huftax@sbcglobal.net http://huffakertaxidermy.com/ | |||
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No Sir, US$, that is the currency Zim uses BOUMA SAFARIS +27827084169 +27125467179 versterm@telkomsa.net | |||
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Do they still have the titles??  A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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I was wondering if anyone else thought of that one. | |||
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Herewith answers and rectification. Not of what you had to say saeed. I can assure you that what we do is legit and I for one will not get anybody into trouble over anything. What I offered is/was legit the only thing is some of the guys cannot handle it that people can sell trophy class animals at these rates, secondly there is/was no misunderstanding. The only reason for leaving it hanging like this, as you put it, is at the time I did not feel it was necessary to post the names of the property owner and director of the Safari company here. To the contrary believe, we in South Africa are educated and can read and write. I checked the US Banned List, I did research all avenues and list available, checked the JAg list of land allocated to VIPs etc. None of the names appear however we felt that it was easier to stop this bickering was to post the names. For "changing" the signature no need to get uptight about, as it was proven by one of the members the contact details remained the same. Safari Company - we have access to: Blazing Star Safaris - License number 255 (not 225 - my typo) registered with ZTA under category HOP. Director: Colin Siziba Property Owner: Ruben Makandla Thank you for an otherwise good forum, you have a large number of opinionated memmbers but most sounds and act like gentleman, the gentleman I am refering to Bill C and Larry Sellers and the 2 wisemen martinbs and Oryxhunter1983. BOUMA SAFARIS +27827084169 +27125467179 versterm@telkomsa.net | |||
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Yep "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
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Nope. It doesn't. | |||
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Who did Mr. Makandla buy the property from? How long has he owned it? ~Ann   | |||
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Ann, Will be glad to ask and find out for you. As I said in a previous post this hunt is not available any longer. BOUMA SAFARIS +27827084169 +27125467179 versterm@telkomsa.net | |||
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I'm not following this one.... | |||
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It is not always easy to follow the thinking of someone who has been shown the error of their ways. Those who would not hunt on a suspect land are free to not do so. That they must attack someone else with no proof to make their point only shows their immaturity. | |||
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Hi I am just curious - are you BOUMA Safaris or BOUNA safaris? Your post shows both spelling? | |||
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and now between casino and oil/gas revenue, they are doing better than the rest of the average Americans. karma i guess Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… | |||
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You certainly did NOT have your contact details in the post I have quoted above. I made a mistake by pressing the EDIT bottun rather than the QUOTE button, so your post appeared as being posted by me. You obviously removed your contact details for some reason on that message. Then you asked me by PM to delete this thread. Why? To remove any evidence that there is something wrong being offered here? | |||
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I haven't priced a sable hunt in years...but lets say trophy fees are $4500 each total $9000 that leaves $6250 in daily rates for 7 days for two hunters that means $450/day per hunter for a 2x1 plains game hunt. Tough for me to imagine that is the "Deal of the Century" but I could be wrong. Mike What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Mike, to be fair to Bouna, the situation regarding sable has actually somewhat changed in Zim. Before the land grab of Mugabe and his cronies, it was quite common to see sable offered on plains game only hunts in Zim. A lot of these hunts took place on game farms, and these hunts could be had around the prices you cite - or perhaps cheaper, as the trophy fees were modest in those days. Alas, after the land confiscations the private game farm industry in Zim (with a few exceptions) pretty much ceased to exist. It was still possible to hunt sable in Zim, but most licenses were now offered on concession and Camp Fire land. Sable became a pretty rare commodity, and was largely offered on longer hunts with daily rates around $1K - or higher. You can always argue with wording such as "deal of a century", but in particular sable from the North West corner of Zim don't come cheaply these days. Together with areas such as Chobe in Botswana, Caprivi in Namibia and parts of Zambia, North West Zim still offers some of the prime sable trophies today. - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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