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Oh come on....If any new member on AR seeks information on Satterlee all they have to do is a search to find out about Satterlee's business practices, melt downs, late delivery, etc. While many of us think Trax has some issues, you and a few others have decided, in essence, to defend Satterlee...what a bunch of BS.. You and Jim Kobe are Gun Smiths? What impression do you think this thread leaves on potential customers? I had to sue an AR member over a gun transaction (this was the only lawsuit I have had to file on a personal basis) and after 2 judgments he finally paid....filing a lawsuit is a last resort, it costs time and money.... You really should take you issues with Trax someplace else instead of defending Satterlee on this thread.... | |||
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Jim Kobe, you should really go chase your Ghost, 22WRF (Kevin) over on 24 Hour Camp Fire... This constant thing you have for 22WRF is childish to say the least...he was banned from AR awhile back..or did you not know that? | |||
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Trax, Let me get this straight you read the 2008 thread and then paid in full for a action? You did this based on his word? | |||
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When you do business with a small time operator, what else do you have but his word? Show me the small time smiths on AR or anywhere else, that sign contracts for delivery dates or are willing to accept penalties for late delivery? It sure does happen in other industries, but some people feel smiths should be immune from such professionally structured contractual agreements. ...and they have been accomodated in that fashion for quite some yrs....to give due credit, some are very good on delivery and their word. | |||
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You placed the order in August 2009...read the threads in 2008? and still placed the order? and paid in full? | |||
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Yes, I gathered anyone can have a rough patch, so I gave Satterlee the opportunity to see if he could come through on his 2008 pledge to pick up his game. .... i guess his game remains SNAFU! [QUOTE]Originally posted by J.D.Steele: Bottom line is that apparently you are the only AR person having a problem with SA.... [QUOTE] Im an just another one in the long list of exiting customers who have had enough of being continually messed around and lied to by Satterlee Arms. since 2006, Satterlee has managed to do mostly nothing but maintain his old atrociously poor business practices.Poor delivery, poor communication and pr finances. You have proven yourself that the claims I have made in this thread regarding Satterlee Arms ongoing inability to delivery a late order and a much belated refund were absolutely true. Next time you may have the commonsense to check with the correct sources before making unfounded negative statements about me or anyone else. | |||
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Error on your part for paying in full. I would have passed if that was his conditions. If your really read that thread it sounded like Timan had no business owning a company. That thread was one of the best calling out for failing to delivery ever posted. | |||
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Well you took the risk after having known of the problems....that's poor judgment on your part... Make written demand, specify a date by which you will seek collection efforts and be prepared to follow through or in the alternative just take the loss... Trading posts/barbs with JD and Jim Kobe is a waste of time... | |||
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The whole reason for my OP was to see who else may be in the same/similar situation concerning Satterlee Arms,..before deciding on any legal action. [unfortunately it attracts the undue attention of cowardly senseless babbling fools like JD & Kobe.] Kobe may get over his obscesion with chasing his "22WRF phantoms" some day, and we can only hope that JD will some day take his chums past sound advice....
Regarding Satterlee,..well lets just say I gave him a good leg-up/boost and oportunity to redeem himself, when his chips were down. | |||
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jjs and others, I'm not defending Satterlee, I'm attacking Trax. While it's true that Satterlee delivered my order earlier than stated, I'm also fully aware of his poor business practices. That's why I used a credit card for my order. DUH! Apparently either Trax isn't too bright or maybe he can't qualify for a card or maybe he's not telling the truth... No, my issue is Trax's repeated attempts to stir up hate & discontent and claim credit for rifles he doesn't own. And no, as I've stated before, it wouldn't cost Trax more than a simple letter to the AZ Attorney General (with proof of course, proof he won't or can't show to us!) to get Satterlee off the dime, but Trax would rather whine and stir the AR pot. I simply don't believe that Trax did what he said. And if he did, then IMO he deserves what he got, ESPECIALLY since he apparently hasn't SERIOUSLY tried to get his money back! Are we gonna credit someone like Trax who won't even tell us his name or where he's from or show us his custom rifles or any proof of his assertions, or are we gonna credit someone like Jim Kobe who's a professional smith and is up front with everything? Think about it. Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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I realise you have a bone to pick with Trax - I dont know either of you. Alot of people simply cannot be arsed to drag small cases like this to court. I know for damn sure I wouldnt get legal over a few grand, just not worth the hassle. Would that stop me from badmouthing the rogue businesses who wont deliver every chance I get? No. Satterlee wouldnt need friends with enemies like you, who place the blame on the paying customer for not dragging a claim through an entire legal system. Life is too damn short.. | |||
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My point is that most serious gunsmiths who give a darn about their reputation will usually right their wrongs long before you have to take things to the courts. Exposure on a huge forum such as AR is a necessity, but it seems satterlee doesnt give a shit anymore. How he gets new business is to me a riddle. Perhaps its on a hobby basis. It has to be. | |||
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I'm thinking about your inane obtuse argument and decided you're an idiot. The last person who so blindly (and ineffectively) defended Satterlee was 22WRF. Think about it. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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The final solution doesn't take any real money at all, much less an entire legal system. All it will take is one registered letter to the AZ Attorney General with certified and attested copies of all correspondence and payment records and a description of the problem, with CCs to the appropriate local federal agency, ICC or similar, or even the US Attorney General since this an interstate case, and also it wouldn't hurt to CC his US Senators and one or both of the AZ senators. No the senators won't actually DO anything about it but the other officials will have to cover their own butts so some sort of action WILL be taken. Really pretty simple actually, IF and I say IF Trax is telling the truth.... Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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Forrest, apparently you don't read so good (sic & sarcastic grin). My previous post made it quite clear that I'm NOT defending Satterlee but rather attacking Trax's credibility. Now who's the idiot? Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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In norway, such a case would take ages to get to court and you would risk having it dragged out for years with counter-sues etc.. If AZ really gets stuff like this sorted in a timely matter and with as little hassle as you describe - then go ahead Trax and tell us how it goes. | |||
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You mean like the unlucky sods taking Hein to court J.D? Sorry to rain on your parade gentlemen, but I see no chance for recovery. If you do a search for a thread here posted years ago titled Hein Contact? you'll get the picture. Jorge and Howard took this guy to court, won a judgement he agreed to pay then ignored it, has a civil bench warrant issued against him and he is still out there and they are out of their money. And this was in the US. They are out 7 grand each and the law could care less. Still that easy huh? | |||
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well lets see, the fun continues......  JD still cannot pluck-up the courage to contact Satterlee. Its really not that difficult JD, the answers to the doubts in your simpleton mind, are just a pm,email or ph.call away. Why do you remain so afraid to ask Satterlee? What is it that you so cowardly fear? Your clearly not bright enough to realize it JD, but im actually being caring and considerate with you,I really dont want see you continue to make an utter total & complete fool of yourself; You can choose to senselessly keep babbling on with your unfounded,infantile and substance-less attack on me, or you can take the sage advice to contact Satterlee. ...which will it be? Stuart can confirm my business dealing with him is real - and Stuart can confirm "Trax " is not "22WRF". I do realize the truth will cause you & Kobe great pain as your self created dilusional-fantasy world crumbles around you both, but trust that the truth will set your troubled minds free...  | |||
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I don't know about Hein, judging from your words apparently it was a CIVIL suit. I suggested the AZ Attorney General for a CRIMINAL prosecution so perhaps a couple of you mental giants need to learn to read a little more closely. I assure you that the guy won't ignore even a criminal INQUIRY, much less an actual threat of criminal prosecution by a law enforcement agency! And Trax, I'll be happy to contact Satterlee about your order, all you hafta do is give us your name. After all, I doubt he'd know who Trax from Here and There actually is, in real life that is. On your check(?) to Satterlee for your 'order' did you sign it as Trax from Here and There? You called me a coward for not calling Satterlee about your order. Well, now I'm ready to call him, so what's your name? Scornfully, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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J.D is ready to pick up the phone. Finally this thread is going somewhere. Trax, PM him with your name if you dont want it in this thread ( which by the way would be understandable, Im reluctant myself to give out names in open threads - it stays forever ( thanks google). And J.D - regardless of how you feel about trax, try refraining from giving out his full name in threads if you get it by PM. Roll movie. | |||
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If he PMs me with his actual real name, I'll probably be so flabbergasted that I'll faint. For sure it'll be the first time he's ever been open and honest on this forum. Kinda curious about the reluctance to publish a real name though. I myself am about the most private person I know, but it's still hard for me to envision much of a downside to folks knowing my real name and address. You can google my street addy and see my shop building in the back yard, so what? It's well-protected, I assure you. Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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And when you go on your next africa-safari, there will be around 10.000 people on here who will know about a certain house which will be empty for the next 3 weeks... | |||
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Well, I don't wanta step on any toes here, but IF I was STUPID enough to brag about it ahead of time on the net, then I would deserve whatever I got! Besides, the bulldogs, buglar alarm, 6'-6" son-in-law and My Bride don't go to Africa (grin). Heck, that's why folks should always leave a guard in the house whenever someone is being buried, the durn obituary is an invitation to the thugs! Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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...Bravo!!..  .....[however,you don't need my legal name in order to contact or confirm anything with Satterlee.]JD, its very simple and straightforward; - ask Satterlee if he has a current customer with name tag "Trax" on the AR forum, ....who is awaiting a long overdue refund because of SA failure to fullfill an even much longer overdue order. then all thats required is a confirming "yes" or "no" answer to JD from Satterlee.... [The pile of PM replies between 'Trax' and 'Timan' from july 2009 to present, indicates the Satterlee response would be "yes"] If a clear sound honest logical responce from Satterlee does not convince JD, then I am not sure what will convince him......and IF JD decides not to believe what Satterlee tells him, then I gather JD would then consider Satterlee to be a liar. I really hate for Satterlee to have to suffer giving time to an ignorant sod like JD, but trust its all for the better. ....but first things first,...lets see if JD actually has the courage to contact Stuart to ask the pertinent question...  | |||
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Courage? I think we all know who has courage and who does not, at least NOW we do! No PM from Trax, no real name from Trax, no truth from Trax. So apparently Trax is nothing more than a troll, a pitiful little troll with a weak mind and a weaker backbone. Yes, I agree that Satterlee has lots of issues with delivery with several folks. But no, I don't agree that ANY of these issues are with Trax. Trax's long history of innuendos, insinuations, weasel words and outright lies have convinced me that the truth is simply not in him. His repeated efforts to stir up hate & discontent show him to be a troublemaking troll, and his refusal to even privately reveal his name shows that he DEFINITELY has something to hide. Kinda reminds me of a 10-year-old girl phone-pranking or fake-knocking at a neighbor's door just so she could seem important to her(him)self while she giggles for causing all that commotion! Of course that's what trolls and undisciplined children DO, so.... Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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One could easily apply that statment to both you and Trax... Show us you have what it takes to make Trax look like the fool you state...call his bluff and give Satterlee a call and ask if TRAX is a customer waiting on an order... There is no need to have his real name, at this point, and he has given you permission to contact Satterlee.... Let's see which one of you stops the name calling and takes it to the mat.... There are ways to verify what each of you states as well as Satterlee...let's see which one of you is chicken shit.... Now this could get really entertaining...J.D. the ball is in your court - Make Trax look like the fool you state he is...... | |||
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__________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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Sorry J.D. but that's just a lame excuse...as Trax said Satterlee knows him as "Trax"...easy enough to prove of disprove with a simple call... Come on your a smart guy surely you can see how playing this out could confirm your assertions against Trax or in the alternative, you could just be proved wrong..... Trax made a statement and you have yet to provide any factual evidence to the contrary... Surely your are a man that wants to back up his claims against Trax with facts.... J.D. it's looking more and more like your assertion that Trax has no order with Satterlee is chickenshit...I would like to say otherwise but your unwillingness to pursue your claim..... Clearly J.D. the ball is in your Court, hopefully you will not punt this time... | |||
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Another suggestion: Trax can show us a pic of his order invoice. He can even block out his name since apparently he's ashamed of it. And, Trax, why haven't you contacted the AZ Attorney General's office? Or the US Consumer Protection Agency, or the nearest local AZ federal magistrate or even the local AZ sheriff's office? All it takes is a phone call or a letter, little or no cost or time involved for you. Your US Senators' offices will eagerly furnish you with all the info you need to sic the authorities onto Satterlee, so why haven't you asked them for advice? The AZ Secretary of State's office will be very interested in any AZ corporation that conducts fraudulent operations. The list goes on and on, and I haven't even TOUCHED upon the grief a good lawyer can cause such an operation! 'Good' in the sense of being expert and unfortunately very few of 'em are. So, what actions HAVE you taken? Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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Some people here post with their real names others don't for a variety of reasons. J.D., what makes you think you're the identity police for this site or even for Satterlee? I think Satterlee is old enough (but maybe not man enough) to post any defense on his own behalf. Has Satterlee asked you to post all this smokescreen BS as a diversion? ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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J.D. that's just diverting...let's refocus Your "Another Suggestion" possibly could have been the next step once you made the call to Satterlee to prove your assertion that Trax did not place an order with Satterlee....at lest according to Satterlee... Looks like your just fine making statements and accusations without any factual basis... Your unwillingness to place a simple call to Sattlerlee is telling and leaves a very negative impression....along with your continued assertions without any factual basis... I am thinking you and Trax were meant for each other...a Soap Opera..."As the Trax Turns" or "J.D. - The Guiding Light" or "Trax and J.D. The Bold and the Beautiful" | |||
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JD is attacking 'Trax' "Trax' is also the AR i.d. with which Satterlee/'Timan' has had numerous PM exchanges with since 6thJuly 2009 to present; concerning the initial enquiry,order,payment,enquiry concerning the much overdue unfilled order -and now, well overdue refund. JD can easily have solid confirmation of such, if he just stops being a coward and contacts Satterlee. JDs ongoing refusal to take such oportunity to resolve his own personal doubts, is only resulting in him repeatedly & publicly highlighting an undesirable business situation involving Satterlee Arms, that is causing Stuart/'Timan', much unwanted aggravation & attention. Stuart Satterlee already has enough current problems with order delivery and customer refund,...they do not need to be compounded by the continued senseless online rantings of a fool like JD, who is just interested in pursuing an unwarranted personal attack toward a current Satterlee Arms customer. The purpose of OP was to simply find out who else may be suffering the same/similar problems with SA, that I am currently going through. JD in his immature mind, saw it as an oportunity to use it as base to launch an unwarranted personal attack at 'Trax'. So far I have had no contact from Satterlee to say my claims are false or slanderous. Nor have I seen Satterlee reply to this thread to say my claims are false or slanderous. This is what I wrote at the bottom of my initial opening post: 11 September 2012 05:07
Had JD simply & sensibly taken such advice, the forum would not have to endure his repeated unwarranted senseless babbling personal attack toward 'Trax'...and it would have very much helped prevent extra attention being drawn to a valid issue which Satterlee Arms would prefer as little as possible public attention, be drawn to. Now, cowards are not necessarily stupid and stupid folk are not necessarily cowards, JD however happens to suffer the double burden of being both stupid and cowardly. | |||
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OK, I called Satterlee's today and got the straight skinny from Stuart about Trax. Trax (I know his 'real' name but won't use it yet and it's not Kevin) actually DID buy an action from SA and then had it sent to another smith (I know his name too but it's immaterial, he's a highly respected AR contributor) where it sat for a year or 2 while Trax tried to decide what he wanted built on it. Ultimately he decided to trade the SA action for a Brno action, and then for a further period of time he couldn't decide what to build on THAT! Then he decided to trade the Brno action for one of SA's intermediate-length actions that are still in-process and not finished yet. Trax knew about the delay up front. Trax became impatient and requested a refund, which SA is now and apparently has always been perfectly willing to give him. However Stuart himself told me that Trax refuses to communicate with SA whether by email, PM or telephone. Stuart says he doesn't even know where Trax lives since the wire transfer info Trax sent him is incomplete. Apparently his native country is not the US since SA thinks he's from Australia. Stuart says that there is a wire transfer awaiting Trax if he'll just communicate directly instead of internet mudslinging (my words, not SAs). SA was pleasant and forthcoming and was actually very neutral in his comments about Trax. Well, at least I wasn't stupid enough to NOT use a credit card! Oh wait, I forgot that the action you originally bought was delivered ON TIME so a credit card wouldn't have helped! And I wasn't stupid enough to expect immediate delivery of an action that's still being manufactured! And I'm not so cowardly that I refuse to give my name and location, or that I refuse to call SA. Stuart said he doesn't know if Trax owns any custom rifles or not. Trax has never shown any of us on AR any rifle that he says is his own property, only insinuations and innuendos. Believe who you want. A review of our (Trax's and JD's) many previous AR posts will soon give the reader a good idea of who's believable and who's not, of who's a constructive contributor and who's not. The ball is now firmly in Trax's court. Call SA! And Trax, you're still the one that's a dull tool (stupid) made of weak material (cowardly). Joe PS: this thread was originally asking if anyone was having difficulties with SA. Apparently no one but Trax is now having any problems since no one responded. Nuff said about SA! __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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[QUOT]Originally posted by J.D.Steele: Posted 21 September 2012 23:49 OK, I called Satterlee's today and got the straight skinny from Stuart about Trax. Trax (I know his 'real' name but won't use it yet and it's not Kevin) actually DID buy an action from SA and then had it sent to another smith (I know his name too but it's immaterial, he's a highly respected AR contributor) where it sat for a year or 2 while Trax tried to decide what he wanted built on it. Ultimately he decided to trade the SA action for a Brno action, and then for a further period of time he couldn't decide what to build on THAT! Then he decided to trade the Brno action for one of SA's intermediate-length actions that are still in-process and not finished yet. The ACGG smith James Anderson/'gunmaker', has received Brno rifles purchased by me, that at my request and payment, he stripped to bare actions and fitted new bolt handles. There were no trades between a Satterlee action and my Brnos. My Satterlee and Brnos were all separately & independently payed for. and your correct, The intermediate action ordered Aug.2009 due for scheduled completion in March 2010, still remain unfinished in Sept.2012...... over 3yrs - and still waiting. Trax knew about the delay up front. completely untrue. Satterlee gave approx. 6 month delivery time,[ordered Aug.2009 due for scheduled completion in March 2010] without any indication from Satterlee that I could or should expect delays. Trax became impatient and requested a refund, which SA is now and apparently has always been perfectly willing to give him. Waiting 2yrs for an action that was to be completed in 6 months, is NOT an example of being impatient. After 2yrs[Aug.2011] I asked for refund which Satterlee eventually agreed to, but come September 2012, has not managed to deliver, Hence why I started this OP on Sept 11. However Stuart himself told me that Trax refuses to communicate with SA whether by email, PM or telephone. Stuart says he doesn't even know where Trax lives since the wire transfer info Trax sent him is incomplete. Apparently his native country is not the US since SA thinks he's from Australia. My PM system has been available to Satterlee all the time. Since Aug 2011 he has promised to send the refund on more than one occasion, but it never happened and he never bothered to initiate a PM as to why he did not. I had to again initiate enquiry with him as to why he did not attempt to send the refund. He always had an excuse, but never the integrity to initiate contact and tell me. Stuart says that there is a wire transfer awaiting Trax if he'll just communicate directly instead of internet mudslinging (my words, not SAs). SA was pleasant and forthcoming and was actually very neutral in his comments about Trax. Yes, In light of this thread and his past failures to provide the refund, Stuart has most recently[yesterday?] offered to honor his promise of a refund. [QUOT]Originally posted by Timan: Posted 20 September 2012 21:45 - we have your refund wire transfer in process. Jacqi, my wife does the office work, she came back from the bank. Our bank needs additional information from you.... [endQUOT] apparently his bank requires some more details of my bank, I am in the process of getting that information for Stuart. On very short abrupt notice mind you.
JD, stop your unfounded & senseless babble!.  .......There was no such expectation by me.ON my enquiry in July 2009 concerning an Intermediate action, Stuart indicated a scheduled completion around Jan-March 2010, which I found acceptable so I went ahead with placing the order in August 2009. The problem/complaint partly revolves around his susequent and current long term failure to complete that action. the copy of PMs I have posted below, clearly show that to be the case. | |||
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Absolute Rubbish! - Satterlee indicated nothing of the sort to Trax. either JD is lying or Satterlee is lying. In response to my initial enquiries during July 2009, this is Satterlee telling me when I can expect the intermediate action to be completed, should I decide to order it.
This is my PM response
In a subsequent PM from Satterlee, he indicated a possible slight change in deliver date;
There is nothing in those PMs from Timan, to show that[at time of ordering Aug.5th 2009], that I was made aware of the delay "upfront",...that now currently stretches to September 2012 Infact, his 25thDec.2009 PM, indicates things are mostly on schedule for the originally proposed March 2010 completion. Come scheduled completion time[March/April 2010], I hear nothing from Satterlee to say the action is ready or that he is encountering delays. He contacts me April 04th 2010, in response to discussion about where to place the serial number, but he makes no mention of the action being unfinished or what stage of completion he has achieved. I leave it in his hands that he will contact me soon, however, after hearing nothing from him for some time [near 17 months after the stated due completion time] I initiate a PM enquiry Aug 2011 [ virtually 2yrs from order date]
So from Aug.2009 to Aug.2011,[ the order is now near 17 months overdue] Satterlee still needs to make major components to complete the order, and does not indicate a new revised completion date. This is the first indication from him to me, that the order is late and incomplete. In all that time From April 2010, he could not be bothered to contact his customer about the order being way behind schedule, Instead,he just sits back and waits for the customer to contact him, despite it being already 2yrs into an order that he said would take 6 months. | |||
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To Forum: I was satisfied to let this thread go quiet whilst Satterlee and I worked together to get his most recent offer [20 September 2012 21:45] of a well belated refund, through. However, in light of JDs revived attempt to continue with false account reports and personal attack toward me,..I consequently find it necessary to address such issues. The matter between Trax and Satterlee has nothing to do with J.D.Steele, but JD just cant seem to mind his own business. JD has falsely accused me of being AR member '22WRF'. JD has falsely accused me of lying concerning my claims & complaints about me having a payed but still well belated order and belated refund issue, with Satterlee Arms. JD has falsely accused me of trading Brno firearms I purchased, for a Satterlee product. JD has falsely accused me of expecting immediate delivery of an intermediate action that still required completion. JD has falsely accused me of refusing to communicate with Stuart Satterlee. In view of all that untrue and unfounded talk from JD Steele,some of which JD claims comes from Stuart Satterlee himself, Id like to see Stuart Satterlee man-up and bring his voice to this thread/forum. | |||
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Stuart Satterlee, is that true? ....did you tell JD such a false thing? I hope, that you Stuart Satterlee, are not creating such lies about me/'Trax', to third parties such as JD Steele. whilst your here, - tell the forum why you never bothered to initiate an explanatory PM to me, despite my ordered action being way,way overdue. - tell the forum why you failed to initiate any explanatory PMs me on several occasions when you repeatedly failed to give the refund you promised. I only got to hear your excuses after enquiring PMs initiated from me to you. Why is it that it required me to initiate contact with you in regards to your regular business action failures? When you, Stuart Satterlee owe people a product or money, you choose to hide under a rock from months or years at a time without a word from you. Its is only when people contact you questioning whats going on with your failures and stuff-ups, that you bother to communicate. However, when you found this thread revealing the truth about your atrociously poor business operation called Satterlee Arms, you did not stay under your rock for months or years,....instead it was was only a few days before you sent me a PM, asking me to stop posting. Do you seriously think someone in my position, owes you or Satterlee Arms any favors? Stuart, I will ask again, Is what JD saying true? Did you say such a false thing about 'Trax' to JD Steele? | |||
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Trax, take your whining to Satterlee. I called SA like you wanted and I repeated what I was told, and if I got the wrong impression then I'm sure that you'll hold it against me (grin). No, you didn't 'trade' your original Satterlee action directly for a Brno, you apparently had James do your buying and selling for you. Yes, I have attacked your weasel words and pseudo-intellectual (complete with misspelled words!) snobbery as well as your snide and misleading posts and back-door attempts to claim credit for rifles you don't own, and I will continue to express my opinion of you and your shenanigans. Around here we call your kind four-flushers. I don't like you and I consider you to be basically a liar who doesn't even have the backbone to tell us his provenance. And, what's this I hear (rumor from an impeccable AR source) that you may have changed your name? I always figured that you musta had something to hide and maybe I was right..... Bottom line is that apparently you are the only AR person having a problem with SA. I gave him a new order myself while I had him on the phone. __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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Nice, what did you order JD? | |||
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