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Just wonderful sir. A really nice DG rifle.

One question; did you do the Color Case hardening yourself ? Got very nice color and I am very curious about how you do it ? ( Ingridients and process )

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Thank you!
The color case work was done by Turnbull. I've used them for a number of projects and have always been more than happy with the outcome.
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Just wonderful sir. A really nice DG rifle.

One question; did you do the Color Case hardening yourself ? Got very nice color and I am very curious about how you do it ? ( Ingridients and process )

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And do you still have the rifle or did you sell it?

Great looking 404 !


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I am wondering about that trigger. It appears to be a Blackburn Trigger. But the pin that holds the trigger to the action looks much larger than what a normal Blacburn trigger would have. Did the Wells shop make their own triggers>


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I believe it's a blackburn as well, though it's not marked. The pin just has a larger diameter head to it, but the trigger unit has the same hole through it as any other Mauser.
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I am wondering about that trigger. It appears to be a Blackburn Trigger. But the pin that holds the trigger to the action looks much larger than what a normal Blacburn trigger would have. Did the Wells shop make their own triggers>
 
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And do you still have the rifle or did you sell it?

Great looking 404 !


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Thank you! I still have it. After returning from the hunt I refinished the stock as I gave it a little character in the field especially when I rested the forearm against a tree to shoot the buffalo Smiler
I also sent the metal work back to the engraver for some new adornments and then re-blued.
It made for a nice showpiece at the trade shows this year, and although I did stick a price tag on it, I certainly wasn't disappointed that it didn't sell.
Pics of it currently after the recent work below:








 
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Perfection in a bolt rifle!! Thanks for sharing.


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Hopefully your hunt turns out at least half as nice as the rifle !


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That's about as fine a safari rifle as can be had!
 
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It’s a true classic beauty, kudos.
 
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GOSH that’s pretty.
 
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I'll take it!

PM me with payment instructions.


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Whatever you offer, I will offer 10x less than you Big Grin It is gorgeous. Glad to see such a beautiful 404. What pride you must have to make and own this beautiful rifle


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I finally got around to editing a video of this rifle build. There's also a few clips from the hunt itself. The link's below:

https://youtu.be/ZiYQIBacYOI
 
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Lovely video, thank you.
 
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Beautiful rifle.

Very nice video.


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I have read a few articles written by Gunmakers who say that interested parties should buy their custom guns from them because their products are born from hunting experience.

The question then is - now that you have hunted that rifle would you change anything about it?


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That's a great question.
Short answer: No I wouldn't change anything. I suppose because I wasn't trying to re-invent the wheel with this gun (or any other for that matter). A flawlessly functioning, accurate rifle built in a classic style that's worked for the last 100 years.

As to the thought that hunting experience = better built rifles: I think that's fine as a marketing statement, but I'm not sure how true I've found that to be. I've been blessed to be able to hunt quite a bit across North America including several hunts in Alaska. Over the years I've changed my opinions on rifles quite a bit, but those changes really come down to personal preferences (blonde or brunette conversations). For instance, I no longer like slings on a rifle and I don't like high magnification scopes with large objectives, etc. However 95% of my clients also have a lot of hunting experience and they come to me with their own personal preferences. I suppose for the inexperienced client who has no idea what he wants in a rifle, the gunmaker with a hunting background would be beneficial. However I think most gunmakers would fit that bill. Most got into the trade out of a love of hunting.
The major difference between those of us that spend many days afield and those that hunt a little more conservatively is that the later group will be much easier for a client to get a hold of in the months of October, November and December Smiler
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I have read a few articles written by Gunmakers who say that interested parties should buy their custom guns from them because their products are born from hunting experience.

The question then is - now that you have hunted that rifle would you change anything about it?
 
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That's a great answer!
 
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Awesome video, love the follow up shot.
I like how you did the rear sight base and lug.
Would you rather do a barrel like this vs integral? You must save a heap of time and money!
Also what is the horse rasp you’ve got? It looks like it rips.
 
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Thank you! It's hard to say which way of doing a barrel I prefer. The integral certainly takes more time but not a lot more than making sights and installing (though in this case I only made the rear). I had already had a .404 Lothar Walther barrel sitting on the shelf so it made for an easy decision on this gun.
It's a Nicholson rasp. Certainly takes material away quick!
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Awesome video, love the follow up shot.
I like how you did the rear sight base and lug.
Would you rather do a barrel like this vs integral? You must save a heap of time and money!
Also what is the horse rasp you’ve got? It looks like it rips.
 
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What kind of files and rasps do you use for all of your shaping work? Thank you.


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I noticed you wet sanded the stock with the finish? What grit paper do you stop at ? One of your videos showed you hand rubbing a top coat on the finish ? What brand finish do you prefer ? Do you rub the finish out with anything like rotten stone ? Your work is really good and so is your videos. Keep it up !


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Matthew - Thanks for another very interesting and well made video.

Brilliant wood and metal work, both!


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Kolo-pan: I use Nicholson files and Liogier rasps. I use a farriers rasp for a lot of the rough shaping too.
I know you're starting out with your first stock project soon, my advice would be not to worry about buying all of the "right" tools for the job now. I made a lot of stocks starting out with a basic set of chisels and gouges, Fisher scrapers, A Nicholson pattern makers rasp, and different shaped blocks to back sandpaper. Then if you find that you like stockmaking after a few stocks it might be worth investing in fancier tools. Just my .02 cents.

Craftsman: The caveat I would give about my preferred finishing technique and brand is that I seem to be constantly changing it. Lately I've been using Timberlux which I've been happy with. I wet sand at 320 until the pores are filled. Then once at 400 and once at 600. Then hand rub the finish in once a day until I'm happy with the result, occasionally knocking it back with 600 grit. The last stock I did I ended up with 25 hand rubbed coats, but that's unusually high. I would say I typically do around 10-15.
Yes, I've rubbed it out with rottenstone before but typically do not.

Michael: Thank you!!
 
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