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Woodleigh?, Swift, Other? 286 grain? 300 grain? What are the Norma Oryx bullets good for? Are they tough enough for big heavy animals? I hunt, not to kill, but in order not to have played golf.... DRSS | ||
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I have had excellent results with the 286gr Woodleigh soft from Impala to cape buff. The only cape buff I have killed with one shot was with a 286 Woodleigh Soft from my 9,3x74R Chapuis. It was my biggest in horn and body. I recommend 286gr Woodleigh Solids as well. Worked great on giraffe and elephant. Those are the only 2 bullets you need for a 9,3x74R. I have had excellent results with the 286gr Nosler Partition on a lot of game, but I have not shot a cape buff with it. Would not be afraid to, just havenot yet. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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286GRN Woodleigh FMJ's would be my pick and if it was found that 300grn Swift A Frames were safe to use in the particular Double's barrels and shot well, then they would be the soft I'd pick.  A Swift A Frame and Two Woodleigh FMJs from a 9.3x62 recovered from Cape Buffalo | |||
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300gr A-frames for two water-buff. each went down on first impact. 286 gr Nosler partition on a huge giraffe bull, found under the skin on the far shoulder. Hope to try GS custom 265 gr Flat-point solids in Africa later this year. Steve "He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin Tanzania 06 Argentina08 Argentina Australia06 Argentina 07 Namibia Arnhemland10 Belize2011 Moz04 Moz 09 | |||
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Swift only comes in 300 grains but they are buff killers. My Chapuis regulated well using IMR4831 and the 300 grain Swift aframes, actually it regulated better than the regulation ammo Chapuis used. "An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument" | |||
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293grn Tug RWS bullets, regulate well in my gun and I would not be scared to use on Buff!  By coachsells, shot with COOLPIX S4 at 2009-05-22 Regulation load in my Blaser D99 duo! Ed DRSS Member | |||
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325 grain Norma Oryx would be fine if the rifle regulates. | |||
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Would look at other bullets before I used RWS TUGs on Buff. | |||
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I would use the North Fork CPS, or FPS solids, or the Woodliegh solid, and softs! http://www.northforkbullets.com/magento/ ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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We both used 320 Woodleigh soft and solids in our doubles 3 weeks ago in Zimbabwe. Both guns performed outstanding! The softs penatrate very well and stop on the far side. My solid hit him quarting away in the left rear ham, penetrated over 5 feet of animal and exited ahead of the right front shoulder. My buddies buff was quarting away hard for his first shot, he had had to put the soft back behind the ribs to hit the heart/lung area which it made it to just fine. For his solid he turned broadside and he hit him high and spined it with the solid blowing up the spine on a cape buff and exiting. My 320s go 2114pfs, his go 2250fps. They recovered my soft against the far shoulder bone, it weighs 314 grains after digging all the meat out of it. It mushroomed perfectly. His soft did not exit but was not found. After seeing the same performance twice on cape buff I would not use any other bullet and don't wast your time trying to push them fast. 2100fps performs incredible. | |||
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SWD, what brand of double did you hunt with? I hunt, not to kill, but in order not to have played golf.... DRSS | |||
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Gotta go with Mac on this one....NF solids and cups...that cup point is probably the best buff bullet going. A solid, but it "expands" to the cup...which ain't much, but enough. Still gives REAL GOOD penetration. I know it's not a 9.3, but I used cups on a buff out of a 470 and they worked great. No need to worry about softs/solids for buff......put the cups in and call it a day. Now for PG, I had great luck in a 9.3 Mauser with Partitions....great bullet for that caliber. Gary DRSS NRA Lifer SCI DSC | |||
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Didn't this group really come from a .308 Sendero with a trigger job and blueprinting?  I know nothing about the integrity of TUG bullets, but if they are tough enough for buffalo, if you don't kill one, it's your fault! Again... impressive! I've used, as previously posted, Barnes TSX's in 250 grains and found them to be deadly and accurate... or at least, a couple of dead buffalo haven't complained??? Impressive! All that considered, if your rifle shoots North Fork cup points, I think you will find them the most efficient penetrating bullets that you can find. From a lot of personal experience, they work on game. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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I have shot this articular D 99 Duo, and a couple of others. ALL of them shoot this good. AS much as I like my 9,3 Chapuis, when I go back I will take my 9,3 D99 Duo. Mainly so I can shoot at least 2 guinea fowl every day. They are good to eat. I am raising 12 of them now on my place.   DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Yep Judge, I shot that group at 100, with a 1.25x4 swaro set on 2.5x out of my Blaser D99. I love this gun and it shoots like a sniper rifle, the triggers break at a crisp 3.5lbs and if you spend the right time regulating it, well you see the results. It is the most accurate double(drilling) I have ever shot. One pic at the range:  By coachsells, shot with COOLPIX S4 at 2009-05-20 here are a few groups with factory norma 286's not bad, but not like the RWS ammo.  By coachsells, shot with COOLPIX S4 at 2009-05-20 Love them or hate them blaser's shoot! Ed DRSS Member | |||
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Blasers... I LOVE them. In regards to the 293 TUGS. I have only shot one deer, facing me at 40 yards or so, the bullet went completely through the deer, breaking the large "ham" bome violently on the way out. I have shot a bunch of game with the 286 Woodleigh Soft, and the 286 Nosler Partition. Baised ot that I would not be afraid to use a 293 RWS Tug as a soft on cape buff. I have some RWS factory ammo with the TUG and I plan on shooting some pigs with it, and will report my results. But from what I know now I would use it on cape buff. However I am open to reports on its actual use. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Recovers some 9.3mm TUGs from Eland. IMO, great for up to Eland and will work on Buff with mild velocity BUT, could be a real problem if Heavy bone is hit. This goes for Woodleigh 286grn RN soft's also. | |||
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I used the 286 gr Woodleighs on my last moose. While they did hold together they were pretty torn up and no bone was hit. Closest shot was about 60-70 yards and two shots were over 100 so velocity was already down a little. I would be apprehensive using them on a larger animal especially if you might hit bone. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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Best is a tough call - it depends on where to put it between extremes - broadside? ,reasonable quartering?, frontal (charging?) - departing? IMO the toughest job to put on bullet (beside departing buff) is straigh frontal on big bodied bull holding head horizontal that leaves you with under the chin shot (aimed at the heart or just above it) i.e. ~4+ feet of straight penetration of some dense stuff... | |||
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Swift ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Okay, now I have it narrowed down. Either a Swift, Woodleigh, or Northfork. 286 grain, 300 grain or 320 grain. Soft followed by a Solid!  Decisions, decisions!!! I hunt, not to kill, but in order not to have played golf.... DRSS | |||
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RAC, I used my Merkel 141 and my friend used his Chapuis. Both with Woodleigh 320s. The nice thing about the Woodleighs is matching soft and solids. Also we both used the round nose not the prp softs. Enjoy your 9.3, they perform way out of proportion to it's size. | |||
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Not sure about you Double, but my 9.3x63 shoots 286gr woodleigh FMJs and 300grn Swift A Frames at same point of impact.  | |||
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