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I recently picked up this unusual DR. It was built by Lou Alessandri for the film Jurassic Park. The producers needed a monster-slaying DR, and Lou was known for his 70+ caliber doubles made to order in his shop. This one is a fully-rifled 12 bore double, with 24", barrels, multi-leaf express sights, claw mounts, ornate checkering, leather recoil pad, and great wood. It came with all the loading accessories, brass, molds, etc. Should be a fun pick-up!







 
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Very nice. NJ legal for deer and bear as well.
 
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Nice rifle!
But I thought Searcy built the double they showed often in the one movie where the guide wanted to shoot a T Rex?


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Yes, I believe Butch made 2 600NE doubles for that film as well.
 
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Really nice pick-up Biebs. Gonna shoot it???


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Dig it. What's the specs? Bout 8lbs?!
 
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Mike, I'll pl;ay around with it, and see if I can research and collect the provenance on it (when built, who ordered it, original price, etc).

Tomahawker, I haven't weighed it, but I'd say it's closer to 10 lbs.
 
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Very nice. Weight?? Do you have the scope for it? I like Suhler mount.
 
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Is it for sale yet?


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Do you have the scope for it? I like Suhler mount.

No. I might have NECG fit some rings for it, maybe on an old Zeiss 1.1-4, but I think I'll shoot it with open sights.
 
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Is it for sale yet?

Don, not at this point. I've never loaded for a brass-cased shotgun. Should be fun. Of course, if the right 500 or 577 DR came around, you never know :-)
 
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Jon:
I have a pair of old 12-bore double rifles and I load and shoot them often. If I can supply you with any data let me know. I will be home from Zim Friday.
Cal


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Other than being a lovely rifle in a relly fun cartridge it's very interesting. Granted my experience is neither wide nor deep but I don't recall seeing the sort of German/British combination of claw mounts and what appears to me to be very British express sights.


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It's built on a Baker shotgun action.
 
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I have a pair of old 12-bore double rifles and I load and shoot them often. If I can supply you with any data let me know. I will be home from Zim Friday.
Cal

Cal, thanks. I was going to contact you...I figured you had experience with bore rifles. Hope your hunt in Zim went well. Travel safe.
 
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What would be the ballistics of a gun like this?


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Bal, I would think it's similar to a Foster-type round, a 7/8 or 1 oz bullet at 1,250 to 1.450 fps or so..... adequate for deer, Black Bear, Hogs and perhaps Elk at moderate distances. Cal will weigh in when he returns.
 
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Dang me, Jon, you come up with the funnest stuff! That thing ought to be a real hoot to shoot. Assume you have Graeme's and Cal's books.


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Bill, yes, I have them both. i
 
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Would anyone if Lou still in business..
 
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Any documentation it was made for the movies? I saw it for sale, but don't remember any documentation
 
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Nate, that's the next project. I'll start with the elderly owner and go from there. That's half the fun.
 
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I don't know if it just the pics but the configuration of those triggers and the drop on that stock make it look like recoil could be interesting...


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12ga rifle...recoil shouldn't be too bad.
 
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Wow!


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Biebs:

I'm in Atlanta with 7 hours to kill before the flight home. My two 12-bore doublers are antiques so I shoot only a smokeless load to duplicate the black powder loads. With a ball of 593 grains I shoot the following with equal accuracy:
5 drams of FFg GOEX
4 drams of FFFg GOEX
35-40 grains of Blue Dot.
ball is wheelwrights and soft lead 50-50%
ball sized to .738"

With you new rifle you probably can get magnum velocities but that is out of my realm with the vintage doubles.

Cheers,
Cal


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1998 Zimbabwe
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2013 South Africa
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Cal, thanks. I put out a call to the original owner to obtain whatever provenance he has on the rifle. I'll find out what load he used in it.
 
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I am going to first say thanks to Biebs for taking time to show off a very interesting 12 bore. I have become quite interested in the subject as of late.

To Cal Pappas I say thanks for sharing some load data. I have discovered it is not as easy to find as I thought it might be.


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Very neat rifle. The doubles for the second Jurassic Park movie were 600's built by Butch. Speilburg is said to have one, location of the second isn't known (at least from what I've read?).

True sidelocks? Or sideplates?
 
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Sidelock....a Baker action, as someone pointed out here.
 
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Load it up and take a video like Saeed's champions!


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You're gonna have a blast with that one Biebs, would be fun as hell to hunt moose, bear, hog and elk in the thicks with that rig.

Congratulations! Cool
 
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Hey Gunner! Yup, another Boy Toy for the rack, but I'd trade it for that VC 577 you got from me!
 
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Beautiful. I can't see for sure but it looks like it has lots of drop in the stock. I'll bet it handles fast. (?) Brian


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Very cool and collectible piece. Congratulations.
 
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Thanks. I'm wondering if I should bother having NECG fit rings to the claw mount bases. I don't foresee needing a scope at the ranges a rifle like this would be used.
 
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