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I recently picked up this unusual DR. It was built by Lou Alessandri for the film Jurassic Park. The producers needed a monster-slaying DR, and Lou was known for his 70+ caliber doubles made to order in his shop. This one is a fully-rifled 12 bore double, with 24", barrels, multi-leaf express sights, claw mounts, ornate checkering, leather recoil pad, and great wood. It came with all the loading accessories, brass, molds, etc. Should be a fun pick-up! | ||
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Very nice. NJ legal for deer and bear as well. | |||
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Nice rifle! But I thought Searcy built the double they showed often in the one movie where the guide wanted to shoot a T Rex? My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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Yes, I believe Butch made 2 600NE doubles for that film as well. | |||
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Really nice pick-up Biebs. Gonna shoot it??? JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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Dig it. What's the specs? Bout 8lbs?! | |||
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Mike, I'll pl;ay around with it, and see if I can research and collect the provenance on it (when built, who ordered it, original price, etc). Tomahawker, I haven't weighed it, but I'd say it's closer to 10 lbs. | |||
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Very nice. Weight?? Do you have the scope for it? I like Suhler mount. | |||
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Is it for sale yet? Deo Vindice, Don Sons of Confederate Veterans Black Horse Camp #780 | |||
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No. I might have NECG fit some rings for it, maybe on an old Zeiss 1.1-4, but I think I'll shoot it with open sights. | |||
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Don, not at this point. I've never loaded for a brass-cased shotgun. Should be fun. Of course, if the right 500 or 577 DR came around, you never know :-) | |||
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Jon: I have a pair of old 12-bore double rifles and I load and shoot them often. If I can supply you with any data let me know. I will be home from Zim Friday. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Other than being a lovely rifle in a relly fun cartridge it's very interesting. Granted my experience is neither wide nor deep but I don't recall seeing the sort of German/British combination of claw mounts and what appears to me to be very British express sights. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me". John 14:6 | |||
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It's built on a Baker shotgun action. | |||
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Cal, thanks. I was going to contact you...I figured you had experience with bore rifles. Hope your hunt in Zim went well. Travel safe. | |||
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What would be the ballistics of a gun like this? DRSS | |||
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Bal, I would think it's similar to a Foster-type round, a 7/8 or 1 oz bullet at 1,250 to 1.450 fps or so..... adequate for deer, Black Bear, Hogs and perhaps Elk at moderate distances. Cal will weigh in when he returns. | |||
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Dang me, Jon, you come up with the funnest stuff! That thing ought to be a real hoot to shoot. Assume you have Graeme's and Cal's books. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Bill, yes, I have them both. i | |||
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Would anyone if Lou still in business.. | |||
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Any documentation it was made for the movies? I saw it for sale, but don't remember any documentation | |||
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Nate, that's the next project. I'll start with the elderly owner and go from there. That's half the fun. | |||
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I don't know if it just the pics but the configuration of those triggers and the drop on that stock make it look like recoil could be interesting... On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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12ga rifle...recoil shouldn't be too bad. | |||
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Wow! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Biebs: I'm in Atlanta with 7 hours to kill before the flight home. My two 12-bore doublers are antiques so I shoot only a smokeless load to duplicate the black powder loads. With a ball of 593 grains I shoot the following with equal accuracy: 5 drams of FFg GOEX 4 drams of FFFg GOEX 35-40 grains of Blue Dot. ball is wheelwrights and soft lead 50-50% ball sized to .738" With you new rifle you probably can get magnum velocities but that is out of my realm with the vintage doubles. Cheers, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Cal, thanks. I put out a call to the original owner to obtain whatever provenance he has on the rifle. I'll find out what load he used in it. | |||
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I am going to first say thanks to Biebs for taking time to show off a very interesting 12 bore. I have become quite interested in the subject as of late. To Cal Pappas I say thanks for sharing some load data. I have discovered it is not as easy to find as I thought it might be. Dave In 100 years who of us will care? An armed society is a polite society! Just because they say you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you. | |||
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Very neat rifle. The doubles for the second Jurassic Park movie were 600's built by Butch. Speilburg is said to have one, location of the second isn't known (at least from what I've read?). True sidelocks? Or sideplates? | |||
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Sidelock....a Baker action, as someone pointed out here. | |||
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Load it up and take a video like Saeed's champions! I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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You're gonna have a blast with that one Biebs, would be fun as hell to hunt moose, bear, hog and elk in the thicks with that rig. Congratulations! | |||
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Hey Gunner! Yup, another Boy Toy for the rack, but I'd trade it for that VC 577 you got from me! | |||
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Beautiful. I can't see for sure but it looks like it has lots of drop in the stock. I'll bet it handles fast. (?) Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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Very cool and collectible piece. Congratulations. | |||
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Thanks. I'm wondering if I should bother having NECG fit rings to the claw mount bases. I don't foresee needing a scope at the ranges a rifle like this would be used. | |||
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