Interesting Double

26 July 2016, 04:49

Biebs

Interesting Double

I recently picked up this unusual DR. It was built by Lou Alessandri for the film Jurassic Park. The producers needed a monster-slaying DR, and Lou was known for his 70+ caliber doubles made to order in his shop. This one is a fully-rifled 12 bore double, with 24", barrels, multi-leaf express sights, claw mounts, ornate checkering, leather recoil pad, and great wood. It came with all the loading accessories, brass, molds, etc. Should be a fun pick-up!

26 July 2016, 05:25

Snowwolfe

Nice rifle!
But I thought Searcy built the double they showed often in the one movie where the guide wanted to shoot a T Rex?

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26 July 2016, 06:12

Biebs

Mike, I'll pl;ay around with it, and see if I can research and collect the provenance on it (when built, who ordered it, original price, etc).

Tomahawker, I haven't weighed it, but I'd say it's closer to 10 lbs.

Deo Vindice,

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26 July 2016, 06:42

Biebs

quote:
Do you have the scope for it? I like Suhler mount.

No. I might have NECG fit some rings for it, maybe on an old Zeiss 1.1-4, but I think I'll shoot it with open sights.

26 July 2016, 06:51

Biebs

quote:
Is it for sale yet?

Don, not at this point. I've never loaded for a brass-cased shotgun. Should be fun. Of course, if the right 500 or 577 DR came around, you never know :-)

26 July 2016, 15:31

cal pappas

Jon:
I have a pair of old 12-bore double rifles and I load and shoot them often. If I can supply you with any data let me know. I will be home from Zim Friday.
Cal

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26 July 2016, 16:03

sharps4590

Other than being a lovely rifle in a relly fun cartridge it's very interesting. Granted my experience is neither wide nor deep but I don't recall seeing the sort of German/British combination of claw mounts and what appears to me to be very British express sights.

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26 July 2016, 17:43

Biebs

quote:
Jon:
I have a pair of old 12-bore double rifles and I load and shoot them often. If I can supply you with any data let me know. I will be home from Zim Friday.
Cal

Cal, thanks. I was going to contact you...I figured you had experience with bore rifles. Hope your hunt in Zim went well. Travel safe.

26 July 2016, 20:43

Biebs

Bal, I would think it's similar to a Foster-type round, a 7/8 or 1 oz bullet at 1,250 to 1.450 fps or so..... adequate for deer, Black Bear, Hogs and perhaps Elk at moderate distances. Cal will weigh in when he returns.

26 July 2016, 21:09

Bill/Oregon

Dang me, Jon, you come up with the funnest stuff! That thing ought to be a real hoot to shoot. Assume you have Graeme's and Cal's books.

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27 July 2016, 02:42

Nate

Any documentation it was made for the movies? I saw it for sale, but don't remember any documentation

27 July 2016, 02:51

Biebs

Nate, that's the next project. I'll start with the elderly owner and go from there. That's half the fun.

27 July 2016, 03:58

bwanamrm

I don't know if it just the pics but the configuration of those triggers and the drop on that stock make it look like recoil could be interesting...

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28 July 2016, 16:37

cal pappas

Biebs:

I'm in Atlanta with 7 hours to kill before the flight home. My two 12-bore doublers are antiques so I shoot only a smokeless load to duplicate the black powder loads. With a ball of 593 grains I shoot the following with equal accuracy:
5 drams of FFg GOEX
4 drams of FFFg GOEX
35-40 grains of Blue Dot.
ball is wheelwrights and soft lead 50-50%
ball sized to .738"

With you new rifle you probably can get magnum velocities but that is out of my realm with the vintage doubles.

Cheers,
Cal

28 July 2016, 18:39

Biebs

Cal, thanks. I put out a call to the original owner to obtain whatever provenance he has on the rifle. I'll find out what load he used in it.

28 July 2016, 19:02

drhall762

I am going to first say thanks to Biebs for taking time to show off a very interesting 12 bore. I have become quite interested in the subject as of late.

To Cal Pappas I say thanks for sharing some load data. I have discovered it is not as easy to find as I thought it might be.

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29 July 2016, 02:18

Brandon.Gleason

Very neat rifle. The doubles for the second Jurassic Park movie were 600's built by Butch. Speilburg is said to have one, location of the second isn't known (at least from what I've read?).

True sidelocks? Or sideplates?

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31 July 2016, 17:43

jerry mcdonald

You're gonna have a blast with that one Biebs, would be fun as hell to hunt moose, bear, hog and elk in the thicks with that rig.

Congratulations!

31 July 2016, 20:33

Brian Canada

Beautiful. I can't see for sure but it looks like it has lots of drop in the stock. I'll bet it handles fast. (?) Brian

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03 August 2016, 02:20

Biebs

Thanks. I'm wondering if I should bother having NECG fit rings to the claw mount bases. I don't foresee needing a scope at the ranges a rifle like this would be used.