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Take a look! (unfortunately has a single trigger) http://jamesdjulia.com/auction...s=36666x111&sale=303 | ||
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Those animals look almost as bad as the Merkels!  The Scrollwork is superb though. Wonder how much it will fetch! jorgeUSN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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jorge, If you don't like the animals please buy it and give it to me. I can appreciate the the engraving style of the times. 465H&H | |||
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What a great rifle! As for the trigger, by all accounts WR made the best ST ever designed. Sutherland used a brace of WR ST .577s. The engraved animals are cartoonish, but that's what you get with period engraving. Just the fact that it's a .577 would bring a premium. That it was owned by Hemingway ought to send it into the stratosphere. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Well, let's see, a Westley Richards in .577 NE, in original condition, cased with a few accessories, bolted safety, hand-detachable locks, lovely one-off front sight....oh yeah, and it once belonged to Ernest Hemmingway.I'd say that only the very wealthy need bid! | |||
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Can't help nut wonder if it is one of Sutherland's rifles. But I always wonder that every time I see one of these. They are out there somewhere. 465H&H | |||
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Now that is one hell of a double rifle!  | |||
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Interesting question, maybe WR has record of Sutherland SNs. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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A 577 with a single trigger, no thank you! Great though for story telling in the gunroom, but I would be talking to myself since know one is allowed in my gunroom.  | ||
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I would bid with confidence......that I would be outbid. Any guesses on the closing price? T.R.'s fox shotgun went over $800k. I'm going to say this one will fetch $350-$400K. Bailey Bradshaw www.bradshawgunandrifle.com I'm in the gun buildin bidness, and cousin....bidness is a boomin | |||
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????  !!!! | |||
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150k-300k????? God only knows! If you get the right people???? God only knows!!! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Funny huh! One of the greatest guns of all time and not because of Hemingway, just because, and if this was made new today the galley would be critical because it is not a perfect fit of the fashion of the day. I cannot tell, but; the barrel might be a smidge over the modern mandate too. Apparently, all the old guns do not fit a strict formula. The old timers had a brain and followed individual ideas - imagine that! Not like today, where one has to come online to get instructed on what a double should look like. | |||
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Hear! Hear ! fourbore! | |||
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More like a few old guns were made to what the customer ordered. And as the Director of H&H once said re the old firms, if the customer is willing to pay for it, any of them would make it. You have to look at older guns in the light of when they were made. . | |||
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Showing my ignorance - What is that lever between the safety and the cocking lever? It has "S" and "E" positions, and says "BOLTED" beside it.  | |||
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Its a bolted safety, it keeps the safety locked so it doesn't engage. | ||
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Here is one of Sutherland's WR .577s.  No. 16650. It sold at auction in London about four years ago for £68,000. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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If it did not belong to Hemingway what do you think it would fetch? short and fat and hard to get at, hit like a hammer and never been hit back. | |||
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That picture won't upload for me. Can you post it in a different foormat? 465H&H | |||
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465H&H, can't you see it? I would try it another way, but I don't know how! It's just an ordinary JPEG file. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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To see the Sutherland's WR 577, you can paste this into your browser (or click it): http://i2.photobucket.com/albu...577.jpg?t=1195429471 If you cannot see that, then you are screwed. It has to work or your internet connection or provider is a fault for some reason. It should work. | |||
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I thought that it keeps the safety engaged so that the safety can't accidentally slip forward and make the trigger "live". NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Correct. Keeps the gun on safe when the lever is across in front of the Safety button. Stops it moving forward. A nice feature on a gun but can be a PITA for those that like nice, clean guns with less things for people to fiddle with !!! LOL - that's my experience in the field. | |||
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Yes that's what I meant. I suppose the statement was to vague and can be taken both ways. I guess I should have made a video.  | ||
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Or a PowerPoint presentation ...  NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Next time! | ||
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No please, save us from "Death by Powerpoint" !!! LOL | |||
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Regarding Sutherlands 577 WR, Simon Clode owner of WR has one of them. It is a very nice rifle. Next time I am there I will get some good photos and post them. Larry York, SC | |||
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So, you don't "want to choose how you die"  NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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LOL I'd prefer to be gored by a Buffalo or chewed by a Lion than die from "Death by Powerpoint". If you have ever been in the Military, you will understand !!! LOL . | |||
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Fantastic double! Shame about the single trigger. I suppose I'd still accept it though if one of you gifted it to me!!! Are they selling any other doubles in the March auction?Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Have to be a really serious EH fan to pay more for it than a new best London version. | |||
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Guns owned by famous people often go for far more than a new one. A 450 NE went for astronomical sums at Holts in the UK. Belonged to some famous hunter (name escapes me ATM). | |||
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I think the 450 at Holt's was probably Denis Finch-Hatton's. As I recall, it didn't go for too, too much. Quite an interesting difference between a 577 from Sutherland and Hemingway. My guess is that to most people who would appreciate a 577, the name Sutherland is far more important than Hemingway. On the other hand, Hemingway was far more known to the general public. Put it all together and my guess is that this rifle will go to some investor who really doesn't care that much about the rifle itself. Hope I'm wrong. | |||
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You don't reckon ? 60k more than it was worth. I was on the other end of the phone bidding and stopped way before it finished. The Auctioneers couldn't believe what it went for. The purchaser had the case for it, the other bidder was a lady who was buying it for her husband. . | |||
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My hammer price guess is $285,000. I believe their premium is 15% so add $42,750 for a total sales price of $327,270. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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It will go for BIG money. A friend of mine talked with Wes at JDJ the other day and he mentioned to him there's already a lot of heavy hitters signed on for phone bids for that gun. I imagine it will go well into the six figures. Buyers premium at JDJ is 15% btw. | ||
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Ahh, Its a good thing I don't like rifles that weigh over 10.5lbs.  | |||
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