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21 August 2007, 08:19
Savage 99
Remington Spartan 45-70 Double Rifle
Any new information on the Remington Spartan 45-70 Double Rifle?
21 August 2007, 08:29
Bill Cooley
I woulden't hold my breath. I think it is on indefinat hold.
Bill


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21 August 2007, 08:40
tomo577
that was buried months ago on this forum horse

may they rest in peace

dancingthe new game is kebco's siace 45-70 for sale in classifides

you can ream them out to your hearts desire...... Eeker at your own risk !


TOMO577
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21 August 2007, 16:38
jeffeosso
No, remington couldn't get the quailty up for high pressure loads.

Ignore tom, as a $800 double hurts his resale business... and HE thinks "Real" double start at 10 times that...


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
21 August 2007, 20:43
MacD37
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:

Ignore tom, as a $800 double hurts his resale business... and HE thinks "Real" double start at 10 times that...


.........and he's right! $800 and double rifle don't belong in the same paragraph! $800 will buy a little over two boxes of ammo for a real double rifle!
jumping jumping jumping

That ought to stir the pot some! stir stir Big Grin

However, if they ever come to the USA, I'll buy one and rebarrel it to 30-30, with 16" barrels, for a canoe rifle, so if it gets dumped in the river, nothing much is lost! thumb


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21 August 2007, 21:31
surestrike
Spartan double rifle,

Bigfoot

UFO

Elvis sighting

Lindsey Lohan sober

Do we see a trend here?



21 August 2007, 21:45
boom stick
quote:
Originally posted by surestrike:
Spartan double rifle,

Bigfoot

UFO

Elvis sighting

Lindsey Lohan sober

Do we see a trend here?


you forgot civility on a.r. sofa


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

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21 August 2007, 23:32
jeffeosso
Hey Mac
if 800 does not equal possible, then why do tommy squat all over remmies?

wait a second.. the pedersoli 45-70 came in at 729 about 10 years ago


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
22 August 2007, 02:26
MacD37
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:

wait a second.. the pedersoli 45-70 came in at 729 about 10 years ago


The Pedersoli never was that cheap! I got the 34 th one of the assebly line, and it was $900, and that was only because Phill Spangenburger released an article too early stateing that the rifle would sell for $900 usd, and Col Powasnic let me have one because I called him the day after the article hit the stands, and he let me have one for $900 usd, but they already knew thay couldn't sell them for that! The first ones were sold for $1150 in 1985 dollars. I doubt the Pedersoli muzzleloading double rifle sold for much less than the $729, 10 yrs ago, in 1997! In 1998 the price was $2495 usd for the Pedersoli Kodiak Mark IV double rifle. and irt was available chambered for 45-70, which was the only caliber origenally, also 9.3X74R,8X57JRS. With a set of interchangable 20 Ga shot barrels, in addtion to the rifle barrels the price was $4125 usd! Confused


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22 August 2007, 03:18
boom stick



577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
22 August 2007, 03:31
Macifej
Survey Says $3,250.00 at DGW



And for back-up the .72 cal double smoker @ $950.00


22 August 2007, 04:25
KSTEPHENS
i saw one in a gun store here in SC then I saw BBBruce at a Fred Thompson fund raiser with Duh-man.
22 August 2007, 05:04
Kebco
At one time the Pedersoli barrels could not be re-regulated because the were brazed and not soft soldered. Does anyone know if this is still true?


Ken

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22 August 2007, 06:26
Idaho Sharpshooter
I got one of those early ones from Mike for about $900. It had separate rear sights for each barrel.
Still, I did kill four bull rockchucks, one in full charge with the HiVel 300gr loads (1850fps). That $3250 or so is too close to a real DR for me to shop them again....can anybody say "Sha-pwee""?

Rich
DRSS
22 August 2007, 06:33
Jim Manion
quote:
Originally posted by Savage 99:
Any new information on the Remington Spartan 45-70 Double Rifle?


The disposable double rifle?

The only chance of it being offered in the US is if Gillette acquires the rights and markets them along side their disposable razors. Or maybe, a nice receiver with a six pack of disposable barrels.


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22 August 2007, 06:35
boom stick
quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
I got one of those early ones from Mike for about $900. It had separate rear sights for each barrel.
Still, I did kill four bull rockchucks, one in full charge with the HiVel 300gr loads (1850fps). That $3250 or so is too close to a real DR for me to shop them again....can anybody say "Sha-pwee""?

Rich
DRSS


rich..next time use your 500 nitro...them bull chucks can be tough to kill. make sure you brain them...and pose reeeeeeeel far behind it and the camera reeeeel close to make it look bigger.


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
22 August 2007, 06:53
jeffeosso
love you guys, but the ONLY reason they aren't here is remington didn't want them to BE disposable.. don't let the ignorance run rampant... if the @#$@#$@ things would have taken a 60KPSI 45/70 you all would have them, period.

in fact, if they were available today, i am dead certain ALL of us would own at least one.

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
22 August 2007, 07:14
Jim Manion
quote:
.. don't let the ignorance run rampant...


What fun is that?


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22 August 2007, 21:52
Showbart
Buy these if you must have 45-70.

http://www.kebcollc.com/viewimages.asp?gid=308

http://www.kebcollc.com/viewimages.asp?gid=307

No shit guys, the nicer of these two guns is stellar!
23 August 2007, 12:21
N E 450 No2
I just do not under stand why every time someone talks about a 45/70 double, so many people are ready to "bore it out"?

You are missing the whole point about a 45/70 double. It is a deer, pig, black bear over bait, elk in thisc timber gun.

A properly built 45/70 double is not heavy enough to make into an elephant gun. They are not designed to have enough steel in the bbls to "bore out".

I would have bought one of the Remington 45/70, and been perfectly happy just shooing factory 300grain loads in it [or equivelent handloads].

A 45/70 double is not a cheap way to an elephant gun.

If you want a cheap double rifle elephant gun [relatively speaking] get a Chapuis in 9,3x74R.


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23 August 2007, 17:24
KSTEPHENS
quote:
I would have bought one of the Remington 45/70, and been perfectly happy just shooing factory 300grain loads in it [or equivelent handloads].


i would have cut the BBL's to 20" and shot 405 lead over FFF.
23 August 2007, 18:26
Magnum Hunter1
tomo,
WHere is that Kebco in the classifieds? I can't seem to find it.
23 August 2007, 18:38
Showbart
quote:
Originally posted by Magnum Hunter1:
tomo,
WHere is that Kebco in the classifieds? I can't seem to find it.


Just go to Kebco website. Anything posted here is there and then some.
24 August 2007, 02:31
Kebco
Only two SIACE guns left right now, although I will be taking orders for more with delivery late spring 2008.

Look at the bottom of the page:
http://www.kebcollc.com/dept.asp?did=1

Thanks
www.kebcollc.com


Ken

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Life SCI
Life DSC
24 August 2007, 08:49
Idaho Sharpshooter
My Gosh! what a sweet set of rifles, and at a realistic price to put anybody who would really like a DR behind one!!

Thanks for getting these in for us working men's beer budget.

Rich
DRSS
24 August 2007, 10:04
Showbart
If I was going to Alasky I'd have to have one. Hell, it says it raght thar on the gun!

Seriously these guns are fecking nice! AND you smoke 'em with these...

http://www.garrettcartridges.com/products.asp