allright gixer!!!

in a couple months this could go BOOM!!!

those florida pigs need some .500" vent holes in them to cool them off.

update...

cross your fingers y'all and pray to the wildcat gods...

qual cart is gunna run the die in further to see if he can squish out the casehead a bit and make the 510 and 505 possible!!

i will post back to let you know how the tinkering goes...

any other takers???

Looks good boom, but I'm set on a 500 AR. Keep up the good work though!

Boom, if you can get the .510 out of that case, we have a winner!
Call it the .500 Express, and it will conquer the world!

But please tell me you plan on a ghost shoulder for a paralell neck like the Capstick?

Don't need that as the case is nearly straight
and the taper inside the case due to the brass
getting thicker as it goes to the base, actually makes the diameter same as or smaller
than at the mouth.Like the cases just made
the brass a half inch dowm is .002 thicker,
and id is .002 smaller.I never seen any straight case where the maker could make the
last 3/4 inch parallel, with same thickness,
from the mouth 3/4 inch back.Ed

quote:

Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
Boom, if you can get the .510 out of that case, we have a winner!
Call it the .500 Express, and it will conquer the world!

But please tell me you plan on a ghost shoulder for a paralell neck like the Capstick?

the 510 can be done but the cheap brass is no longer there...if you dont mind expensive brass ($2.25 a piece) or more forming time. it can be done but that would be outside one aspect of the philosophy of the project but you could still get the cheaper gun and the same bolt and 3 down.

had a funny thought...
paying hommage to ed this could be called the ultra mag from hell...lol!

500 U.M.F.H.

I was thinking calling it the Ultra F!@#$% MAG.

500 U.F.M.

But yes, the Ultra MAg From Hell is more PC these days. Damn Conservatives...

well there is the bibamofu...

qual cart would want its name on a more classy named cart i am sure since part of the deal is for him to sell it to the public so we dont have to pay for the expensive tooling.

500 max is simple and no b.s. hype...it will be the most bad ass thing you can do on that case.

you could call it the 500 death ray rhino smasher pimp slap owned lion tammer manum express and it would not be hype

Word. Then again too, there is the Belted Nitro Express. I mean, there is a Jefferys RIMLESS NE, but no BELTED NE.

500 B.N.E.

Nice add in for the edit. Death Ray poke would for sure lure in the big bore TREKKIES and STAR WARS freaks!

the belted rimless nitro express is pretty much what a 500 a2 is... belted rimless nitro express i think implies that you turned off the rim and put an extractor grove on the original case...with this max design you can get 3 down in your rum but opening the bolt that big for the a2 or 500 nitro i think would give you trouble on that gun.

I have seen photos of a Rem boltface turned out to a Rigby boltface. Talk about a THIN ring of metal! You know Remmy employees have to cringe when they see stuff like that. Not that they are worried about their hide, but the shooter's!

that brings up part of the brilliance of this...its pretty much a barrel swap!

ps check pm

So are you going with the .505 or the true .500?

How about RUMAX? RÙMAX! Rem Ultra MAX!
Damn, Boomie, this is exiting!!

For right now it will be a .500
bullet diameter. That gives enough taper
to the sides for good extraction.
If Quality Cartridge, as Boom related, can
make the base a little bigger on the
RUM brass(it measures .546" now)then it
could be used to make .505 or .510.
But I think with all the .500 bullets out
there it may be a mute point. I see .500
caliber Hornadys I think, 500 gr, selling
for 75 cents each, and good for deer,hogs,
target, water jugs, etc.Ed

quote:

Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
So are you going with the .505 or the true .500?

How about RUMAX? RÙMAX! Rem Ultra MAX!
Damn, Boomie, this is exiting!!

yes as ed has posted the .500 is the easiest and cheapest to do right now since no custom brass run s needed yet. the 505 and 510 can be done today but it is a matter of $$$ for the brass...the design will work but right now gixxer will have the first .500" hog exploder...it will be a scaled up version of varnmiting...lol instead of prarie dogs...swamp hogs. the 400 grain 500's will work as fragibles at i figure over 2600 fps.

other pigs in florida will tell of the horror stories of the man named gixxer and his death stick.

Boom you should be a motivational speaker for yer side job. Really!!! I sure am getting excited!

quote:

Originally posted by gixxer:
Boom you should be a motivational speaker for yer side job. Really!!! I sure am getting excited!

the animal instincts of the pigs i am sure are starting to kick in...animals always seem to know when disaster is comming so if the florida hogs are a bit skiddish and the hair on their backs are starting to stand up...they know that gixxer and the stick of death is comming.

well if someone wants to do the 510 max and have a custom small run of brass to get the gun up and going to do load development and have fun with it ed will do it but the cases will be about $3 a piece. the brass lasts a long time since there is no shoulder and it is pretty straight. so if you want to do the barrel swap thing on a rum or h+h gun...its doable. the brass will end up costing about the same as regular brass since you will get more firings per case.

I delivered the 500 MAX/RUM reamer
print and couple cases to Manson today.
interesting thought, the 500 bullets we
are using goes with S&W 500, caliber wise,
a variety of weights and light to heavy
jackets. S&W now owns TC, so maybe our
500 RUM will catch as there is a bunch of
500 S&W guys out there. Maybe they'd sell
pistol and Encore pairs.Ed

chambering the 500 s&w tc pro hunter would be a great idea...load down for 500 s&w and up to africa stuff!

Wow, there is a lot of potential there for some coordination! Who gets the royalties for them using our cart?!?

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
chambering the 500 s&w tc pro hunter would be a great idea...load down for 500 s&w and up to africa stuff!

Dude, no!!! the Encore is seriously underweight for a 416 rigby and the 500 SW with the "flex" stock, jumped up to serious speed, will kick like satan's mule!

Hey Jeffe I thought the 2 bore was Satan's mule?!? But for real how could they put out a 416 that weighed less than 10lb (maybe I am off, I thought most rifles 416 and up were around 10lb) and expect most folks to enjoy it? Kinda like one of those Rossi single actions in 20ga. A co worker in AK got one for his kid, good thing he shot it before his kid shot it!! So he says... Everybody's tolerance to recoil is different for sure. Ask my Dad, it took him a year to get up the nerve to shoot my 375.

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
chambering the 500 s&w tc pro hunter would be a great idea...load down for 500 s&w and up to africa stuff!

Dude, no!!! the Encore is seriously underweight for a 416 rigby and the 500 SW with the "flex" stock, jumped up to serious speed, will kick like satan's mule!

lol...
i will take your word for it but the recoil at classic velocity did not seem that much more than the faster 416 rigby

maybe add a few pounds and get a non flex stock

http://www.beartoothbullets.com/rescources/calculators/php/recoil.htm

i think Rocky's 416 rigby encore is sub 9# WITH SCOPE

Thanks to Ed for making the prototype dummies.

Here is a 500 nitro case and the blue collar version the 500 MAX with Barnes X and Hornady .500 Smith and Wesson bullets

Wow Boom, that sure looks cool. I am almost there on the reamer cash. Thanks again for the help Ed.

gotta get some of these...that second groove would be perfect to crimp at for the max usable space in he case.

I love this project...


Or lathe turn off 5 thou off these 505's

Way cool, boom!
But we need a pic with a grown up bullet!

Here it is with a 510...

The 505 can be done if anyone choses to build one.

What do you think the max performance would be? 600 @ 2250?

An interesting option...
if you had a win mag length action and you did not mind being limited to the use of flat nose pistol bullets you could do the 500 MAX and should be able to still get decent performance.

The longer actions will be a lot more versatile and powerful obviously

that just looks ... well, crazy! Hard to believe that was a piece of RUM brass!!!

Seems there will be a slew of new wildcats based on the .500 bullet like the 500 MAX...

Seems the TSA is not allowing ammo to go on planes over .500

I am sure bulletmakers will catch up but until then the 500 MAX is just under the limit.

TSA compliant...the 500 MAX

Perspective...

here is a 7 Mag and 500 MAX's with a flat nose hornady and a barnes xpb.

all can be shot out of a 7 mag size action but the spitzer and longer rifle bullets would need to be single fed or need the longer action to be mag fed.

pretty interesting to get either 7 mag or 500 nitro equivelent power out of a common 7 mag with minimal smithing.

Oooooooh what would it cost to get a barrel for my Savage 110 built for 500 RUM or RUMAX or Pimp Slap, or whatever? Something to keep in mind when I get older.

I figure about maybe as cheap as $400 but probably closer to $500 for cross bolts bedding and a new pipe.

Has anyone done a .458 RUM? I would think that would be more economical with cheap 300 grain Remingtons, and 405 Remingtons. 300 grainers at 3000 fps? They would only be good as a varmint bullet though, as they pretty much explode much past 2000 fps.

www.z-hat does it...pretty powerful. I would rather go bigger than faster and this is one way.

I would start with a 458 lott and if that aint enough (yes it is) rechamber.