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my calculations have made me come to the conclusion that a 2.1" (read short action) version of a 375 ruger will be 85 grains case capacity...4 more than the 376 steyer and 19 more than the 30-06... and the same capacity as the wsm line!!! this is because of the minimal body taper so whatever the wsm can do this can do too...where is the advantage you say? NO REBATE! sooooo 5% more performance than similar bores based on the 06 case at the same preasure. 308 ruger short 220@ 2625 338 ruger short 250@ 2550 358 ruger short 270@ 2625 375 ruger short 300@ 2500 easy 416 ruger short 400@ 2150 458 ruger short 450@ 2050 the only real reason to have the short ruger is to a) have no rebate for better feeding and b)cuzz brownchester never made a 338, 358, 375, 416 and 458 version rugady-horner...are you listening? since you will not make them most likely i will have to call air dibs on them. what is a good name??? a.r. short mags? the AMERICAN line of carts? or the ol' stand by boom stick short mag bssm fer short (pun intended) heh, sounds like bussom if you say it phoneticly 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | ||
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i think my genious has flown over some heads 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Lead balloons don't fly. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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led zep is my favorite! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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One of the main problems with WSM and WSSM brass is the thickness and hardness of it making wildcatting difficult. If the Ruger brass is more easily workable I expect good things to come from it. How about 6.5mm catridge with the capacity of the 6.5x257 Roberts AI with a 1/2" long neck so both long and short bullets can be seated to the lands. For a short action of course. | |||
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the great thing is the 2.0" versions still have more capacity than the 06! 6.5-06 performance in a 260 rem action...nothing is easy that is worth it...but if you wanted a cal short mag that is not covered by rembrownchester this has merrit. rechamber a 350 rem mag for example ect 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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BoomStk, help me out here, Your 2.1" ruger case head dia. is smaller than the shoulder dia of a WSM, how can that equate to equal capacity??? | |||
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less body taper and probably thinner walls... even if it is a bit less it is still a great round even at 2.0"! 101+ grains capacity in the ruger case and this would be about 85% of that. and the 2.0 version would be about 80 grains! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Sure. Another way to look at it is, we already know and love the short belted case (6.5 Rem and 350 Rem were BIG hits, right?! - seriously, a great idea in my mind) so you get that case without the wasted space of the belt, and less taper. I have a hard time believing it would actually match the WSM, but no doubt it will come close, and surpass the "original" short magnums. Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt. | |||
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