There's the 423 Fossdal, 458 Lott, 475 Capstick, 500 Max, 550 Express, 550 Magnum, 577BME, 600 OK, 12 GFH.
Am I missing anything besides the 458 Win?

Anyone doing a 395 on the 224 Webbie?

boom, can you find pics for me please?

495ASquare, 458x2" (458American) and supposedly a 458x1 1/2", 458Watts (really a 458Lott though) ... I think that's all of them. Oops ... forgot Boom Sticks 0.500" straight case concept (I think it was straight case belted???) ... the 500Whatchamacallit
Cheers...
Con

.010 works nicely..
the .470 capstick is obviously less taper than the 458 lott

How about the 450 Marlin ?

Ken

same as 458 american 2" ... which, frankly, aint a bad round at all ... works REALLY good on pigs

So creations of individuals on AR are: 423 Fossdal, 500 MAX, 550 Express, 550 Mag, 577BME, 600 OK, 12GFH.

That's pretty good stuff gentlemen!

550 flanged, 500 ar, 470 ar, 458 ar, 416 ar.. and that's just my shop
600 OK
500 mbogo/KX
470 Mbogo
550 gibbs

11.63 x 33mm Belted. A US experimental during Viet Nam.

Ray

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Originally posted by .366torque:


Anyone doing a 395 on the 224 Webbie?

There really is no reason for it! It would do nothing the 06 case would not do better! Likewise with the 411 and 416. A 423 will need a belt or headspace on the case mouth, latter is the .423 OKH.

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Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:There really is no reason for it! It would do nothing the 06 case would not do better!

Hey Bent - we can say the same thing about 99% of all wildcats.

Ray

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Originally posted by Cheechako:

quote:

Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:There really is no reason for it! It would do nothing the 06 case would not do better!

Hey Bent - we can say the same thing about 99% of all wildcats.

Ray

There are two kinds of wildcatters, my friend - those who neck up and down any case that has not had it done to them yet - and those who make cartridges that fill a niche.

I do not neck up the .240 because it has not been done before, but because it will give something new. .423 on the 06 head size with proper headspace. My original thought was to use the .416, but against the '06 case, it han nothing say for it, and a lot against. The .423 made sence!

Like the .416 and .458 AR cartridges, they are not better than the .416 and .458 Howell - but they can be made with mutch cheaper brass, and mutch cheaper convertions, because of the RUM brass with their cost and head-size. They filled a niche!

Bent

I guess I'm hung up on the word "niche". Sure, there are a lot of "niches" in the cartridge world. 23 caliber, 29 caliber, etc. But is there a "need" for them? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong. I am a certifiable wildcatter and have been one for many, many years. They are fun to play with and I wouldn't try to discourage any new shooter from designing his own.

But we have to keep in mind exactly why we are doing this, and it certainly is no longer to fill a need. That ended for the small calibers during the golden age of wildcatting, and for the boomers at the end of the 20th century.

JMHO

Ray

The 12ga FH isn't belted but my
700HE long and short are, and have fired,
recoiled, and made huge fireballs.
They are top of the list for belted straight
sided cases.Ed

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Am I missing anything besides the 458 Win?

.411 Ryan;


T

sorry just read the thread today...

the 395 is best on a o6 with a shoulder imho

the 425 fossdal is is a mini 577 BME

Both rock!

The 425 Fossdal being 2.65" case and 400@ 2150 is quite something...

The only niche that matters is the desire to have one.

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Originally posted by boom stick:

The only niche that matters is the desire to have one.

no, the only niche that matter is the one with a desire to be filled!

Bent,
Ken Howell told me he liked my ARs, and asked me square "you didn't even know about my rounds, did you" .. and i didn't!!
rum brass is a heap cheaper than 404!!

I think there is only one belted straight case yet to be that makes any sense...

Call it the 458 MAX

The only advantage is to go on a std 473 bolt face. but you might as well swap the bolt and do a 458 win mag so the desirability is not reeely there...

Make custom brass or form from 458 lott brass.

Another forming a belt on a case job like the fossdal, 500 MAX, 577 BME ect.

take the belt off and the casehead becomes the belt and give it an 06 extractor groove and rim.

The 425 Westley Richards put a .473 rim on a .543 casehead so this does not seem silly by comparison.

Your CAD skills are improving, Grasshopper.

The .458 3" that is very popular in Africa..