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Fun post to follow. Your time will come. What an experience you had that 99.9% of the world will never get to be part of. Very nice. | |||
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Here is the other lion we passed last evening - from video..  Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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Good self control!! Nice job. Jim ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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I love getting home from work and getting an update on the lions. Nice looking cats, both of them Doug McMann www.skinnercreekhunts.com ph# 250-476-1288 Fax # 250-476-1288 PO Box 27 Tatlayoko Lake, BC Canada V0L 1W0 email skinnercreek@telus.net | |||
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You are to be respected for your patience and efforts in ensuring you are hunting the right lion! This is what lion hunting should always be like. Good luck with the remaining days Tim, you deserve to be rewarded!  "...Them, they were Giants!" J.A. Hunter describing the early explorers and settlers of East Africa hunting is not about the killing but about the chase of the hunt.... Ortega Y Gasset | |||
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Hang in there Tim. Hopefully the right lion will make an appearance! Good luck! | |||
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Great reporting. What a great sable. Can't wait to read more. Hartley | |||
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One of the best days ever on safari as far as seeing game today. Just tons of animals moving. 30 sable, technical difficulties and my lack of concentration cost me a great 40ish inch eland, saw 300 buff, and probably 20 species. It was just a great day with no shots fired. Only problem now is we don't have a lion on bait... In a normal safari area without the stringent rules here, we could have killed sable, lion, buff, plus lots more in 4 days, but I think that is why it is so good. Cameraman's bag is in route on the road, so finally we will have some equipment. No photos today...hopefully something will turn up tomorrow...cheers for now... Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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Forgot to add, we saw and filmed an albino Cape Buffalo calf today...incredibly cool! Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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tim who are you hunting with there? look back did not see it on the thread NRA LIFE MEMBER DU DIAMOND SPONSOR IN PERPETUITY DALLAS SAFARI CLUB LIFE MEMBER SCI FOUNDATION MEMBER | |||
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Kambako Safaris...Stu Taylor PH... Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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Tim, congrats on a fine trophy sable! Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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I agree! Tim has turned into a TEASE!!! Graybird "Make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after ... it's the reckoning." | |||
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Those last two days sound about as good as hunting can be. Seeing two nice lions up close, listening to them roar like that, then the next day seeing so much game. About the only thing that'd make it better is more lion pics, with Tim in them! | |||
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Sorry, I didn't get a still photo of the white buff. Today I had the most exciting hunting morning of my life. We went and refreshed a bait that had not been hit, and after we drove about 300 yards, I looked to my left and there was a huge black maned lion standing on a rock outcrop at 50 yards. Of course I was yelling for Stu to stop, and we glassed him for a few seconds, then he laid down. Finally he turned and slinked over the hill. He was the lion of my dreams! They don't get MGM's here, but he had a very full, completely black mane. So we go back and add more meat to the bait, and Stu and I get out and put out a trail cam while the trackers went to drag an opposite direction. In 3 minutes they are back and say they have seen the lion very close, so Stu tells them to take the truck away. We get behind some palms, and get on the sticks. WIthin 2 minutes, here he comes straight at the bait! He walks straight at my gun barrel, and stops at 40 yards. Safety is off, crosshairs 2" below his chin, and I am waiting on the word, but it never comes. Finally he swung his head to his left and trotted off. His face was not scarred, and Stu just did not want to call him 6 years old. He feels that he is 100% 5 or older, but no scarring has him worried. He said he is the best dark maned lion he has ever seen here, and one of the best 2 manes here that he has ever seen. Yes- I am disappointed. To take that animal out of a blind, coming at us, etc. would have been unreal, but if he isn't 6, he isn't 6. We are going to review footage with other PH's, etc., and if we all determine that we think he might be 6, we will hunt him again. I feel sure he hit the bait. Spent the rest of the day hanging hippo and dreaming about that site picture of the great cat in my scope. No matter what, I will never forget one single second of that encounter. off to the shower... Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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Damn that's bad luck, Tim! I'm hope you'll get a 6yrs old which is even bigger | |||
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He have never seen the lion before but can judge his age by months...I dont want to criticize but that must be tough..Hope you get a old one Tim | |||
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Tim, That visual memory will never fade. Trust me!! Cheers Jim ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Anton, Stu just wants to know 100% he is 6 or older. They get a big fine and lose quota if they shoot one younger. He is doing his best, and we are going to look at the footage shortly as a group and try to see. It was tough, but I respect the heck out of these guys for the way they do it. This cat would have been shot immediately almost anywhere, but you gotta know the rules going in I guess. It was still just an incredible experience. I could have smoked him and I know it. If I go home empty, it will be tough, but I have that site picture, and will be back next year...I still have a week... Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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Tim, I cut and pasted your post to a thread I'm starting in the Lion conservation forum. I didn't want yours to end up getting crapped on. I look forward to the rest of the report. The "live feed" is fun to follow. Cheers Jim ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Hope he is at least 6 after further inspection! Good luck, great "live" feed! | |||
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Guys...4 PH's, Ozhunter and me all looked at both videos we got in depth. One PH was Johnnie Johnson who has been there and done it all, and we all agree, it was the right call. From what I understand, of the quota here- they are allowed one "mistake" cat a year if it is 5 years old, but it does carry a $5000 fine. There is loss of quota on other circumstances. All is good, we shouldn't have shot the cat, though he is beautiful. Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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I hunted with Johnnie in 1991. He is one of the best PH's I have ever hunted with. My best safari ever. | |||
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Exciting hunt Tim, congrats on the Sable, what a toad! Fingers crossed on the Lion. Your in the right place with the right people for sure. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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What a geat hunt. It must have been very difficult to pass up the latest lion, but I'm proud of you. You guys are doing it right! I have found retirement to be the perfect occupation, but reports like these make we want to go back to making some money. "There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark | |||
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Looking good Tim - I am sure you will get what you want with that kind of patience. Say G'day to Adam for me... A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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Hang in there Tim. | |||
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Tim, you can go ahead and whack him. If anybody says anything tell them Mark Young said it was OK. | |||
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Tim, you have an excellent attitude towards all of this. I am not sure how I would feel about hunting lion under such conditions as a certain amount of the joy of "hunting spontaneity" is gone...but thats probably just a character flaw on my part I respect your attitude towards the rules of such a high stakes game. I wish you the best of luck. Sounds like they need to cull a bunch of young lions so there will be more of the old ones around  | |||
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wow- thats tough Tim! Having been on the receiving end of the "save the lion campaign" with regards to age of the cat, I sent in two skulls of lion shot last season to 3 individuals considered experts in lions and lion aging. This including Chap Esterhuizen who has been heavily involved in the Save lions and now is Zimbabwes leading Gov vet focusing on wildlife and lions in-particular and even with the aid of unlimited time, tape measures , magnifine glasses etc we had ages varying from 4 to 6. So my question is how the heck to do you make a call in the bush even if you have the unlikely situation of perfect light and at 20 yards? Like me or not for saying this- If it is mature in my eyes and acceptable to my clients eyes I will take it and be happy with it! If areas like the above and some Tanzanian areas that have these strict rules then I feel that once a lion has been unsuccessfully hunted they should not be aloud to re-sell these hunts as re selling a single lion 5 times over as seems to happen leads me to think that this may be a financial decision rather then a conversational one! All that said Tim I really hope that in your remaining days you find a blind, geriatric, toothless, arthritic lame lion that is not totally bald - then may be, just maybe ,he will pass the test and you will shoot your hard earned trophy! Good luck Tim you do deserve one for sure! | |||
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Grafton, I could not agree more but there was no other alternative for them. Gunny, I'm sure the Kamkako guys are waiting on my recommendation on anything they might do. Not!  Tim, Great adventure so far. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Only saw 2 lioness today. Also some tuskless and 2 young bulls. I shot a Bohme Zebra about an hour before dark, so there's another rug and 2 more lion baits. Buzz, I tend to agree with you, and believe me, my PH is very frustrated. He was all about me shooting the lion, it is the Reserve's rules and they have to play by them, right or wrong. They only book 3-4 lion hunters here a year, period. Now if I don't kill, they might let someone already here upgrade if an old lion is seen, but they don't sell another lion hunt...   Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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Love your Zebra Tim, my idea of a dream rug, congrats. I sure hope Orion smiles on you and a king walks into your sights. Continued success. BTW, tell us something about the ammo and rifle your using??? I'm well familiar with what you shoot but details add to your quality reports. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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I love the look of the common zebra without the shadow stripes!!! Maybe tomorrow is the day for ole Leo!!! Graybird "Make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after ... it's the reckoning." | |||
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I am shooting TC's new Dimension- bolt action that you can change barrels/calibers. This was the .300 Win with 200 grain Accubonds. Flattened the Zebra and the sable went about 150ish yards, but I shot it just a little high. It got both lungs...bullets have been nicely mushroomed just under skin on far side. Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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I just purchased some 160 grain Accubonds for my .280 Rem. They have performed extremely well here in the US and in Africa. Very happy for you on your Sable, maybe that same patience will yield Simba. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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First thing first, I sure as hell hope you get your lion Tim, you deserve one! Second, Buzz must stop reading my mind !! I agree with his post to the last word. We have done the very same thing with skulls, and we get the same results-confusion and then 'expert' pissing matches. I AM NOT a lion expert, yet I have hunted and filmed them in most of Africa where they are hunted. The PH is in a hell of a spot, as is his client( even experienced and informed guys like Tim) But some of the adventure and mystery is leaking out of this sport when the PH has to flip through his photo book to verify the info on the every lion in the hunters scope.See TGT. Is it wrong? Jury is still out on that. Is it money or conservation driven? Probably some of both depending on the outfit. But I will tell you this, you plug that 5 year old black maned guy and you will not get any harsh words from me! Wishing You all the luck Tim, I think you deserve it. Dave Fulson | |||
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