Good morning all,
So I have just returned from another fantastic African safari in the heart of Tanzania, this was my 7th trip to the east coast of Africa and God willing not my last, I have always loved hunting the Masaai species as well as chasing don’t an old Dagga Boy. On this trip I was fortunate to share the camp with a young Australian, who has moved to Tanzania to for fill his dreams of guiding and hunting the critters of Africa,
During one of our many discussions around the smouldering camp fire he introduced me to this discussion board as well as some of the topics that have created some hype over the last few months, the one topic that came up was extra interesting to me as it happened just after my last Safari in Tanzania and involved the same area and Agent/Outfitter I have hunted with over the last 10 years throughout Africa, from Tanzania, CAR to the harsh winds of the Namib desert,
This Agent/Outfitter is mentioned and accused of misrepresenting a hunting area to a client as well as supposedly not delivering the goods once the hunt was taking place, on my return home I took a personal interest in this case as I am booked to hunt with them again in 2014 season and if he had shafted a fellow hunter out of an African hunt and the client did not get what he paid for then I do not want to hunt with this Agent/Outfitter again.
I am a very neutral person when it comes to these types of situations as I am from the Law profession; I found the blog posted by Johnnomarlin who I take to be the un happy client, as I have hunted Tanzania many times before I contacted a connection in the Wild Life department to see if they were aware of this situation, I also contacted the Tanzanian PH who guided me in the same area the month prior to this said safari so see if he also guided this hunt, the wild life department was no help other than informing me that this clients trophies were still in bond in Tanzania and that they had not been exported.
My PH friend however informed me of the following, the client had booked a 21 day safari of which only 18 days were to be hunted due to work commitments, it was a safari booked and prioritized for a Leopard and Buffalo, as well as sable roan and eland, the client needed a Leopard to complete his big 5 and his son a Buffalo to start his Big 5.
The agent Outfitter booked the client into Itulu Forest Rungwa because of the high success rate with Leopard, (on my safari we took leopard with in the first week and had hits on almost every bait we hung, we also shot sable roan warthog and zebra before we left but no eland and no Buffalo, we did however find eland tracks but I had a cat feeding and wanted to be in the bling early instead of walking hours after an eland)
In reading the negative blog that was posted by Johnnomarlin I notice he carries on about photos sent to him by agent and does not once state how his safari went and how it ended, only that the Outfitter was a crook.
Well I have found out that it took him almost a week to hang a bait as he kept pulling his shots, he missed 2 roan 1 huge sable as well as missing a zebra at 40 yards, the PH had to finally buy goats to start baiting.
During all of this the Agent/outfitter offered to send a vehicle with a 300 and a 375 from Arusha free of charge so the client could shoot with ease and not flinch with the heavy calibres he brought with, the client refused this offer.
During their safari no Buffalo were spotted or tracks even seen, this put the Agent/outfitter in a situation that he would have an unhappy client especially because the client was getting miserable because of his shooting, so what did he do, he arranged for new permits and planned to fly the client and his son to an area that had lots of Buffalo once the Leopard was dusted,
During the second week of Safari the client started hitting some animals and put a few trophies in the skinning shed, a good Tom was feeding and a blind was set up, the leopard was shot by the client but wounded badly through its front legs, the PH followed up for 2 hours on the wounded cat and dispatched it,
A charter was called in clients and ph. picked up and flown to the Selous where both Son and Father each shot a great Buffalo Bull and the sons being an exceptional animal, after a few days the Safari came to an end and the charter picked up and flew back to Dar,
So in my mind the client came to Tanzania looking for a great hunt as well as harvesting a Leopard and a buffalo for his son as well as a hand full of plains game, he got his Leopard, his son got his Buffalo, the Agent spent $12 000 in relocating them because there were no Buffalo in Itulu (which he did not even ask the client for he took this upon himself to make the safari a success)
To date the client has not paid for any of his trophy fees and he has refused compensation of Big Game fishing as part payment for his Safari, now that the Agent/Outfitter is suing the client 2 years later the client is trying to dirty the water,
So as I am a client and a fellow hunter, I ask you all to think twice before slandering an outfitter without knowing the facts, its sometimes the client who could be wrong and not always the person running the Safari, and remember once you as a hunter put the safety off and pull the trigger you are responsible for the outcome,
Best hunting to all and remember conservation through sustainable utilisation is the future for all of us,
World wide Hunter

No it is not allows the outfitters fault. An outfitter would very rarely come on to a site like this and tell their story out in public. So, we usually only here of the times when it is a bad outfitter but there have been a few times when someone has come on here telling how a bad an outfitter is and then we only get to here the true story from someone else they was in camp at the same time and the end of the story was it was the hunters fault.

Also, remember there are those people that will never be satisfied with anything no matter how far above and beyond the outfitter goes.

I am glad for World wide hunters post. Its always good to hear the other side & Keep an open mind. I know how hard outfitters & PH's work for their clients , ( they have for my big game hunts ) I am sure there are a few bad apples , but its unfair to paint them all with a Broad Brush.

For those interested, here is the referenced thread: http://forums.accuratereloadin...111095681#2111095681

It is always interesting to hear both sides, although there is no excuse for posting photos purloined from other outfits.

I have seen that exact situation both in Africa and other parts of the world. Do clients get screwed from time to time? Without doubt. But the client has been the problem in countless similar situations as the one above. Human nature, or the worst of it, usually has us looking for someone else to blame when a hunt, relationship, business deal etc..go wrong. Even when the fault lies with us. Good report, and a classic "other side of the issue" post.

Interesting first post.
Sounds like bullshit to me.
Where was this Outfitter named in the previous post?
Me thinks you've made the first mistake that identifies you as a an accomplice to the scam Johnnomarlin was a victim of.
Shame on you for this feeble attempt.
Go away and stay in your hole.

No idea if this is true or not. There have been clients posting bad reports here and failed to mention their own behavior and/or physical condition. I know of a client from NZ that stiffed a TZ company for over $20K recently. Some clients are as crooked and slimy as the bad outfitters.

There are two sides to every story. The internet allows each side the opportunity to speak. Anyone who brings their complaints here (to the internet) must be prepared to be judged by all those who care to read it.

Carry on.

Agreed Wendell and Larryshores.
No one is above scrutiny and we all need to check our own actions before making any accusation.
The references from other well regarded AR regulars leaves me inclined to feel that Johnnomarlin is a straight up bloke.
I guess we will all be better informed once Johnnomarlins legal action is done and dusted.

Good Day all,

Ridgeman, I read your first reply which was a quick emotional reply compared to your second one,
Bit harsh don’t you think,
I am not involved in this saga just stated facts, I am a client of this Agent who booked the hunts and who sat with the bill in the end of the day to pay all charters day rates and trophy fees not paid by client,
Would be interesting to see if the client would comment on what species he successfully hunted on this safari that he was the victim on,
sad state if he went 100% on his trophy’s or opportunities on his trophies and he is moaning about a few photos of different area sent to him before the hunt and uses that as an excuse not to pay bill of over $40k owed on hunt,

last comment on Ridgeman note,

its the agent who is taking action against client not client against agent--- also lets you think?????????

I know a guy who knows a guy who said he knows the guy that was there. Put about as much stock into this as a promise from my ex-wife.

Jeff

WorldWide Hunter you joined this site AFTER the thread in question had run it's course.

Therefore a little background information on you could give your response more validity.

Good day Boliep

If you read my initial post you will get my background and how I was introduced to this thread that had run its course,
I just returned from Tanzania where this topic came up around the camp fire from an Australian PH
I hunted with the Agent in the same area the month before this client hunted,
I have used this agent on numerous African safaris,
On my return home I joined AR and read the original post and felt compelled to add some info from the other side of the fence,
This case is in court and once out I am sure will make its way to the Hunting report with Barbara crown for all to see.
As I am in the law profession I know a bit about Australian Law and it’s a very long shot for the Agent but I support his efforts, I am sure it will cost him more in legal fees than what he has lost on the safari,
With the cyber world the way it is today a person’s reputation and name can be tainted by any individual seeking revenge or to cause harm to another, this is why I felt that more of the story needs to be told.

WWH

WWH, is your real name Doug Chester, Esq?

I'm always more interested in hearing from the parties involved rather than the mouthpieces that join in on either side.

WWH.
Your later posts haven't changed my opinion of your motive and I still smell BS throughout.
Your friendly outfitter will have his day in court and then we will all get to hear the truth.
As I previously noted - nowhere in the original post from Johnnomarlin was any identifying detail of the people involved revealed.
You have decided to forward support for this unknown entity and at the same time spread unsupported rumors about another's shooting ability or lack thereof.
You say you have some background in legal process.
I realize homeless dung beetles need expert representation so stick with it and every success for your future further career in manure.

WWH ... I know who the"young Australian" works for. and have a fair idea who you are. You omitted the word "running" before "from" when you said you "were ... from the law profession." You should keep in touch with the Wildlife Dept, you may be a "person of interest". True, I missed an impala and a small sable at 200 yards..must have got the wobbles when I thought of the trophy fee, for bait. Then the French PH and we drove around and around for a few days looking for shit, tracks...you know the sort of thing after your many, or was it seven? hunts. We saw tracks alright, lots of pushbike tracks of honey gatherers, sawmillers, and stopped to pass the day with some groups!! All trustworthy chaps no doubt. You use the Royal plural "we", and I assume you're not a Duke, or a Queen, so it must be a couple of hunters? or was it three? four? or were you part of the group of fourteen consisting of five American hunters, 5 Sth African PHs and a couple of Tanz PHs, plus the "Outfitter/Agent". This O/A was sold my hunt by a smooth talker..am I getting warm?? And I think the poor fellow thought he was a "player". I did of course look up his website but it was "under construction". I gave him the benefit of the doubt,.. new, keen, startup, etc... and he was reccommended by a good mutual friend. On day 5 morning we bumped a couple of Hartebeest..one bait. That afternoon, a zebra. "Cats falling out of the trees, 100% on leopard this year" We had one bait of 6 hit, which I didnt kill outright..I think it was no more than an hour following up at night with truck lights and torches. The 5 previous hunters shot a total of TWO..one from this area and another from another area called "Minolta" sp?... so that made your mob 20%. Lets bring in those hunters for ringing endorsements!! Apparently this group had a second leopard on a bait..hunter and PH in blind, waiting..leopard jumps on limb, hunter getting set..PH COUGHS!! leopard vanishes.. Am I getting warmer?? Now shoulf I mention the name of the "Coughing PH" .. M.. We did see one shootable sable, but a few hundred yards away hauling arse ... He waa a survivor of the 14 man huntathon. Had a looong shot, only once, at a roan bull ( actually the only roan bull..little herd we bumped a couple of times.) Alex clipped a baboon and zebra, and I got a hyena and a little warthog. Point was we were to be using BUFF for baits, or hippo ( more bullshit) We sent for goats because we drove for days seeing zip!! The gofor brought back one goat which we fed and watered and it was still alive when we left. The buff were Alex 38" and mine a noble 36", my tenth buff!!. PH and both camp crews were well tipped, and Back in Australia I had Marlin Charters..liveaboards for Grander blacks..starting as soon as we got back. No email out behind the GBR. I get a bill for trophy fees, which I intended to pay, plus added on the extra trip, extra hunt, 50% higher buff fees, etc. So now I see its GAME ON!! "We need to talk".. I get a long email with all the same lying bullshit. I'm still on charters, then its Xmas..parties etc in my Tavern, so I'm busy. This Outfitter/Agent phones me just before Xmas and says" Pay the full bill in 10 days, or I'll destroy your trophies" I said "Go your hardest, pal" ( close to that, on a family show!). Two years later he thought he'd have a go, rattle the branch... but we are countersuing, so now he cant stop digging his own hole. There's at least three of these tossers involved...WWH, his bosom buddy from the "harsh winds of the Namib desert" who is the O/A I suspect, and the fellow that the "young Australian" works for. Bullshit pictures sent to unsuspecting potential clients? Eles from Ngorongoro..look at whats on our lease! Ten lion trophies, only one of which was shot, and years before, on their concession. See you in Court, and you can demonstrate the fine art of putting shit back in a horse!! and I'm happy to keep boxing on!!

Dunno how some of these operators sleep at night?

What a Fuster Cluck.

sad life you live good luck for the case in the end the court,s will decide who is the the horse,

WWH

WWH!! AHA!.. It is YOU, the super "Agent?/Outfitter?" all along, (tell me, confidentially.. In your dreams, Were you holding something else? another gun? when you were sharing those Harsh winds of the Namib desert?? just you.. and you?). At first I thought WWH was the "coughing PH" dork who conned you the new boy/agent into buying/onselling the "Rungwa" BUFFALO etc (hee hee, who'll know!) trip.. "hunt" is stretching it a bit! He couldnt sell it, but he was there for the 14 man HUNTATHON!... BUT! WHO, WHICH smarmy arsewipe gave you photos of other operators, their concessions, their trophies, their clients to pass on to the "punter dickheads"?? Fraudulent, Deceptive and Misleading Conduct!! You, Our coughing dork "M" or the HERO who has the "young Australian, sharing the smouldering campfires"?? HERO is involved..sorry campers, but its like finding out the truth about the Easter Bunny!..Thats who you should be pursuing in Court. Dont worry princess, you'll all get a thorough workout. You missed the point..you should have left YOUR SHIT in the horse. See you in Court, WWH

WWH for someone who purports belonging to the "legal Profession"; your language skills are a bit uncomfortable.

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
WWH for someone who purports belonging to the "legal Profession"; your language skills are a bit uncomfortable.

Agreed, At some point in that lengthy education I'm sure they would have covered the difference between a comma and an apostrophe.

Does Court T.V. ever show cases from Australia?

I've left more than one camp because it (and the guide or P.H.) was not what was advertised. I've also shared camps with clients who would complain upon winning $300 million on the lottery that they had to pay taxes.

That said, I've found that A.R. is a great source for information gathering by which screwed up hunts can be avoided. I just finished getting information on a South African company from half-a-dozen guys here.... folks that I met in Dallas, have broken bread with, with whom I've talked and listend to over the years and who I, therefore, trust.

Right now, a guy from Switzerland is corresponnding with me about a concession I've visited. There are some "goods" and "bads" about it (mostly "goods") but if he goes, he'll have gotten my honest thoughts by p.m. on what he can expect.

Now that I've pontificated so wisely, if either party wants to send me a 1st Class ticket to Australia, I'm come and testify as a P.C. (that's a "professional client" for you uninformed) and then go shoot a buffalo or three up on the North Coast. Just send me the recommended testimony.

sorry Mr Marlin i am not the Agent Outfitter or the coughing PH hope you not to dissapointed,once again good luck to you.

Not to be a pain in the ass barrister...

But it should read: Sorry, Mr. Marlin. I am not the agent/outfitter or the coughing PH. I hope you are not disappointed. Once again, good luck to you.

WWH or poser....

Damn Jeff. You sound like you are educated or something ... Oh wait. You are....

Always interesting when someone tries to hammer someone with something so poorly written as what WWH has posted. One has to wonder just what the real story is especially considering the info on the other thread. Personally , I tend to believe Mr Marlin for one reason. I seem to recall that Mr Charlton said he knew Mr Marlin and he didn't sweat the small stuff.

Time will tell...........

I had one other thought. If WWH is in fact an attorney as implied , I would hate to be his client if his writing skills are no better than exhibited here.

Quite so! I may be unreasonable, but if someone doesn't know what a sentence or a paragraph is I tend to discount what they are saying.

Spending 12K "to make the safari a success" and NOT passing those costs to the client really rings my ol BS meter.

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Originally posted by Mikelravy:
Quite so! I may be unreasonable, but if someone doesn't know what a sentence or a paragraph is I tend to discount what they are saying.

I can excuse bad grammar for light hearted stuff. But when someone is trying to explain complex arguments and sway opinion, how they write takes on a great deal of importance.

Agreed

Since when do attorneys go to Internet forums to argue their case?

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Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
Since when do attorneys go to Internet forums to argue their case?

I thought attorneys argued everywhere. I was engaged to one. I thought that was the norm!

Confidential chats with a young man chasing his dream around "the smouldering campfire", "harsh winds of the Namib desert" ..eloquence!! But the bullshit started, after WWH heard from a client of his (a good friend of mine) that I was looking for a leopard/buff hunt, with his first email to me. Quote "I sell this hunt in Reno" This makes him seem legitimate, but he has never had a booth at SCI. "RUNGWA Leopard Hunt". Nowhere like the Rungwa. I paid him $34,000, plus 7 days liveaboard marlin fishing at $20K trade, for 16 days. I extended the marlin trip to 11 days for an extra 2 days hunting. This was because he said he'd bring my friend and another outfitter, and I wanted to have time to do Lizard Island, and Osprey out in the Coral Sea. As soon as I paid the non-refundable $34K he wanted to change that to a 6-day and a 5-day and sell them to anyone! I owed $15,050 in trophy fees and 2 rifle imports. He added on the extras and demanded the lot or no trophies! He never attempted to book any anglers, or send his friends..now he wants another $22K. Hence his mention of $40K. One observation that should be a relief to all you legal chaps. He said he was "from the legal profession" ..perhaps it should have read "running from the legal" profession. I have not mentioned the names of the players. WWH, Coughing PH and the HERO ... give me the green light if you're so confident. And the A/O is not Australian... but 2 years after the events, he wanted to jump in the boxing ring in Australia! He's just had to post $19K bond for my legal expenses if I win. Over to you..

I would post the names. It carries a lot more credance than tongue and cheek insinuations. If it is bullshit than call it so. BTW No one here thinks WWH is an attorney or even close to one.

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
Since when do attorneys go to Internet forums to argue their case?

I thought attorneys argued everywhere. I was engaged to one. I thought that was the norm!

Damn Larry, I actually married one ....

Oh yeah, and this thread is a mess - painful actually.

You are 100% correct this is a mess,
And both chaps are a fool, that’s you WWH as well- and I apologise as you have been a good client.
So Johnno you don’t have to rat out who is the Agent as here I am, Justin Karan- Karan Safaris, if I got the Balls to take you on in your home town I can show myself here as well
- I am not an Outfitter in Tanzania and only sold this hunt as an Agent for a Tanzania company,
I do not believe this is the place for a pissing contest- that is why we have a legal system. And by the way Johnno it was not a 2 year wait before I woke up and took legal action, the process started way before and you were given more than enough time and chance to pay your bills, or contact me with any issues you had on the safari,
You have chosen to bring this to a chat site and have a trial by media, sorry for WWH also cocking up matters but that was not on my instructions, and I believe he will not again.
And Bwana Bunduk, do me a favour and don’t correct my bad grammar or spelling, all I am is a farmer by trade.
So let me put some of the shit on the table, and Johnno correct me where I am wrong if you like,
I sell hunts in Tanzania for 2 Outfitters, areas being Masaai land Selous and Burigi,
I was contacted by a friend to do a favour for one of his friends, (Johnno)
He needs a leopard to complete his Big 5, but does not want to break the bank in doing so- so would like to swop fishing days for hunting days, I as the prick say sure but I am sold out of Leopard but can try make a plan spot I know where Truthfully the Leopards are plenty but depending on the season, Buffalo are scarce because there will be little to no water on the concession. (Rungwa Itulu Forest)
And Just to correct your info Johnno, the group of 5 hunters took 5 leopards, 2 in Masaai land and 3 in Itulu,
In every e mail and correspondents I had with YOU Johnno, I stated that this is a cat area and that if the Buffalo beat you because they were not there I would take to you either masaai land or Selous to make sure Your son starts his Big 5 career of with the Buffalo he came for,
Johnno if you would like me to splat all the corroborating e mails on the site to support this just say so and I will,
In every conversation we had you stressed the fact that 3 things were important to you,
First 100% must get your Leopard
Second 100% must get Buffalo for Alex
Third 100% beers must be plenty frothy and cold.
You knew up front camp was rustic, you knew it was not the Rungwa nature reserve and you knew 1 Month before the hunt even started that the pictures I sent you were Bullshit,
It was the same time I found out they were crap, and were sent to me by the Outfitter who did not have photos of the camp to send on, so he Bulled both you and me, and you, Mr D from the states who introduced us and I spoke about this a month before your hunt, I apologised for this profusely as it is not the way I do business and I also apologised to Mr D as one of the Photos was of his Safari in the Selous years prior to this event, so to say this was a shock now regarding the Photos is utter crap and you know it.
Again if you would like me to state dates as well as notes taken during this conversation I will post all,
So what did you get for the $34k you paid for your Safari?
A 21 Day Safari of which you hunted 19 Days, you were 2 hunters 1 PH and only 1 quota to hunt off- but importantly both of you had permits issued even though you only had 1 quota to hunt.
Of the 3 important factors that needed to be fulfilled what was done?
First 100% you shat a fantastic Tom leopard
Second 100% even though we had to change areas you took 2 great Buffalo Bulls,
Third 60% Beers were a plenty but not always cold, Ice was a big Issue so when I found out about this I bought and drove an Ice Machine from Arusha to camp to improve this negative point.
So what happened on the Safari? You successfully killed the following species,,
2x Zebra
1x warthog
1x Baboon
1xHyena
1xHartebeest
1xLeopard
2xBuffalo
You had wobbly knees/sticks whatever on the following
Sable
Roan
Zebra
I agree not the best Safari in the world but not bad,
So I saw a comment from someone that I am talking crap about not passing on a $12 000 cost to a client, well that is how I operate I put my money where my mouth is to get a job done,
Johnno had agreed to pay $6000 if we needed to change camps during the Safari; this was to cover charters and additional permits,
The Charter from Dar to Itulu for pick up, and then to Selous as well as Pick up in Selous and back to Dar after the buffalo hunt came to $12 000, I did not charge or invoice this to the client, I Paid it and shut up.
What did I ask the client to pay, was just the permits for the area, and not even the $6000 he had agreed to before he even left on Safari,
Again Johnno if you would like this correspondence posted please let me know, or if you would just like them mailed to you personally to refresh your memory I will do so.
Yes there were issues on the Safari with poachers and bee hunters and whatever you call people who move into an area they are not supposed to, but unfortunately that is a fact that is prevalent throughout Africa, as I am a hunter myself I have been frustrated with this too.
From when you left Tanzania till I took legal action against you, you did not once pick up the phone or send me a mail with any concerns or issues you had that made you unhappy.
I sent you very polite mails which you refused to respond to, you never returned any or my calls or messages I left,
So since we could not communicate as Adults it is left up to the courts to decide and we will just throw money into scum lawyer’s pockets, and fund there new cars boats and homes.
So this will be my one and only reply, except if Johnno wants me to post all the mails I am referring too, I will actually waist all your time and post my first letter to Johnno after the Safari,


And Johnno see you in court,

As said here is the Mail i sent Johnno, I called him and he could not talk as he was busy , that was the last i heard from him,

Good Morning Graham,

As per our conversation last week, please will you let me know what issues and problems you encountered during your safari?

I am truly interested in Knowing as during the whole safari I was in communication with Pascal and Rainer and was not told of any serious issues, the safari was a success with you getting a good Tom which was the priority and Alex shooting a very Good Buffalo touching 40” in the Selous. On completion of the safari I would have expected to hear straight away if there were and snags.

I have not charged you any extra costs on the Selous leg of the safari even though it has cost me in the end of the day, even with the sale of the 11 days fishing with you I still do not break even. I have not once complained or made an issue of this; I promised you a successful hunt in an area where I have had 100% on Leopards (Itulu Forest Rungwa). As there were no Buffalo in the area during the safari as discussed before hand we made a move to an area where I was certain in Alex getting his Buffalo in the remaining days, you landed up both shooting Buffalo.

You and I had many good discussions before the safari and I made sure you and I were on the same track every step of the way, when there was a change in PH I told you about it and also made sure the PH was of a very high calibre,

Since the day you left Tanzania I have been trying to get in touch with you, you have ignored all my e mails and attempts to make contact,

Please get in touch with me as I would like to resolve any issues you have as well as getting your account with me paid up to date.

I would also like you to confirm that you are still upholding your side of the deal as far as the signed contract regarding the 11 days fishing owed to Karan Safaris,

Look forward to hearing from you,

Best regards,



Justin Karan

i Lied one more here with the contract and the agreement signed,

July 8, 2010

Graham Johnston
Australia

Email:
Customer VAT #: N/A
Tanzania 2010 hunting season invoice

1x 18 day leopard hunt @ USD 27, 000.00
Valid for 1 hunter & 1 observer USD 27, 000.00
1x Return charter – Rungwa hunting block
Aircraft type: 206 / single engine / 5 seated USD 7, 300.00

Dates:
In 15 September / Out 4 October, 2010
Terms:
Please refer to details listed on pg. 2 - 4 of this document

Total amount due USD 34, 300.00

Payment Terms: Upon receipt


Please fax payment confirmation to the attention

Thank-you for choosing Karan Safaris!

Cancellation Policy: All deposits once paid are strictly non-refundable.
Cancellations up to 60 days prior to safari – Full deposit is forfeited or transferable to an alternate date.
Cancellations less than 60 days prior to safari –
The total safari cost is forfeited

Included Expenses: All Government Fees
Packing and dipping
P.H. Fees
Fully equipped camp
Full board accommodation including drinks
Use of vehicle for hunting purposes
Rates for 1 observer

Excluded Costs: Extra Observers: USD 350 per day
Rifle Import Permit: USD 200 per rifle
NOTE: max 3 rifles – no hand guns or semi- auto’s
International and local air other then noted charter on invoice
Hotel accommodation pre / post hunt
Side trips / excursions
All trophy fees as listed below

Cost of trophy fees and extra game available to be hunted on this safari is noted below:

Leopard $5,000 Zebra $1,400
Buffalo (1st) $2,250 Warthog $ 550
Buffalo (2nd) $2,250 Hartebeest $ 900
Sable $3,100 Eland $2,100
Duiker $ 380 Roan $3,100
Kudu $2,600 Klipspringer $1,400
Civet $ 350 Oribi $ 350
Topi $1,000 Serval cat $ 450
Bushbuck $1,000 Baboon $ 200
Bush pig $ 550 Dik -Dik $ 380
Reedbuck $ 600 Hyena $ 700

Should additional game be made available you will be advised and offered it accordingly.

Lion and elephant would carry an upgrade cost if available

Additional Terms of Agreement:
In additional to this agreement, Karan Safaris will receive an 11 day fully inclusive complimentary stay aboard Mr Graham Johnston’s 50 foot vessel in the Great Barrier Reef, Australia.

The main purpose of the trip is for Deep Sea Marlin fishing and will include the following:
• All the necessary equipment, tackle, expertise and capable fishing staff to accommodate this type of charter.
• Accommodation and fishing for 2 adults & 4 children OR 4 adults maximum
• All necessary permits
• Catering for the entire period including beverages
• Boat to be fully staffed
• Fuel
• Return airport transfers to and from the closest major airport where the boat is docked
The trip will exclude:
• International and regional airfare
• Pre / Post accommodation / tours

The above trip can be:
• Split into 2 groups: One to fish 5 days the other 6 days
• Can be sold on by Karan Safaris if they are unable to make use of it themselves

This trip is valid until December 31st, 2012 and can be taken at anytime suitable and agreed upon by both parties. It can also be taken in two sections (one of 5 day and the other of 6) at two separate times and do not need to be scheduled back to back.

The total value that has been discounted on Mr Johnston’s hunt is equal to USD 22 500.00 in lieu of the above mentioned trip.

Kindly sign this agreement / invoice as acceptance of these terms and return back by fax or email.



Mr. Graham Johnston Date


Kindest regards,
Justin Karan

Justin Karan
Karan Safaris

Looks like some of the truth is finally coming out. Well at least we know the parties involved now and see a contract.