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One thing I cant add up is Nixons quota for elephants - I know Malapati have 6 exportable elephants each year, but only on AR 7 was reported shot ?
Can anyone explain this ? And with his son hunting as a PH can cause alot of problems for his clients...


Anton,

Malapati safari area has 6 and the communal area has 3 and 1 tuskless = 10 total elephant a year.

As for his son doing the hunting.... hmmmm no comment
 
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I just got back from a fishing trip / vacation in Maui and found this thread. I have no doubt that Saeed is truthful in tracking down the ISP for Afr.
While I may not be particularly computer literate, I do know that I haven't figured out how to be in two places at one time. If someone figures that out, please let me know, and I'll be happy to send half of me to work and the other half out hunting and fishing all the time.

Nothing about this subject will suprise me anymore. Next time, however, "they" ought to find out if I'm even in town before trying to set up a fake new member.

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Did you happen to have any traveler's checks stolen while you were out there?


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I just got back from a fishing trip / vacation in Maui and found this thread. I have no doubt that Saeed is truthful in tracking down the ISP for Afr.
While I may not be particularly computer literate, I do know that I haven't figured out how to be in two places at one time. If someone figures that out, please let me know, and I'll be happy to send half of me to work and the other half out hunting and fishing all the time.

Nothing about this subject will suprise me anymore. Next time, however, "they" ought to find out if I'm even in town before trying to set up a fake new member.

Bill


Phifer:

You don't think things out very well. The IP address of the PC in question was in Salt Lake City. Think about that. How many AR members are from Salt Lake City? Now how many of those members are ones like me that think you are a complete dickhead? I must admit, I haven't seen anyone from SLC post anything in a negative manner about you. So did some "lurker" who just happened to live in SLC suddenly come out of the woodwork and pretend to be you?

Here is an even better observation: AFR Hunter didn't put down a city location. Not even a state. If we wanted to impersonate you, wouldn't we have included a tagline mentioning SLC?

Finally, you say you haven't seen this post. Interesting, because you posted twice using Llamapacker several hours after this thread was established.

So you went to Hawaii? How long? You last posted 5 days ago. Pretty quick trip.


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I just got back from a fishing trip / vacation in Maui and found this thread. I have no doubt that Saeed is truthful in tracking down the ISP for Afr.
While I may not be particularly computer literate, I do know that I haven't figured out how to be in two places at one time. If someone figures that out, please let me know, and I'll be happy to send half of me to work and the other half out hunting and fishing all the time.

Nothing about this subject will suprise me anymore. Next time, however, "they" ought to find out if I'm even in town before trying to set up a fake new member.

Bill



Hmmmmmm, surprising that you didn't notice it before your leaving since you managed to post this........

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There are several people with very low post counts on this thread, and to my knowledge, I don't know any of them. Some seem as interested in defaming me as Bobby. They do seem to be muddying the waters more than anything, but confusing the issues does not seem to apply only to new members.

For the record, I am not aware of any canned Lion hunts on Malipati. Reread my earlier post if you want more information.

And still, I have not been contacted by Nixon or anyone on his staff - unless you count Dukxdog or SBT - I HAVE heard from them, and I've archived that correspondence. I've also heard from quite a number of people relating their own horror stories who wish to remain anonymous. They will tell their own stories in their own time. I have no way of knowing if they are true or not.

I've also recieved many messages of support. I thank you for those as well - you know who you are.

Whether you side with me or not, all seem to agree with Shakari. None of this is good for hunters in Zim.

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This was posted approximately 4 hours after this thread started, but I guess you weren't interested.

Bill, I don't know you but it is so easy to prove that you are being conned,extorted, or falsely accused. Just post copies of your wire transfers or other methods where you paid SSG a reasonable amount for your hunting fees and trophies. If you can't, the conclusion is obvious........


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I'm going to post this one time. This is approximately what I think happened, and I stress the word think, I wasn't there, nor do I know any of the individuals involved.

Bill shot the wrong elephant at Nixon's call. Both felt bad about the error. Nixon told Bill he could shoot extra animals at his trophy cost to make up for it. Bill did and then some. Not enough money to pay for all of them, so he signed the TCs he had and promised Nixon he'd pay him when he got home. Got to thinking about it when he got home, got a severe case of buyer's remorse (he pulled the trigger, he owed the money) and reported the TCs as stolen, and, of course, did not wire the excess trophy fees due. I am more than willing to be proved wrong in these assumptions and it would be so easy. However, my OPINION is that Nixon would certainly not be doing this if he had collected even any fair portion of the monies due him.

If, in fact, the TCs reported as stolen were NOT stolen, then Bill should make every effort to alleviate this situation because otherwise I truly think he should go to jail. Actually I think he should go to jail anyway if he signed the checks as payment, but realistically I think the problem would go away if Nixon was made whole or nearly so.


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Gentlemen,

A note on IP addresses.

Some people have a dedicated broadband that comes with a fixed IP address. It is theirs, and no one else uses.

Some people get a different IP address each time they log in. It might change only the last set of digits, not all of it.

In this case where I have checked, both IP address came from Salt Lake City, but from different service providers.

One seems to be an education facility.


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One seems to be an education facility.


Phifer: If I gave you a Cat backhoe you couldn't dig yourself a deeper hole.

Or is this just another "pure" coincidence as well?

You are scum.


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While I hope this mess comes to a solution that is satifactory to the two folks actually involved (Nixon and Bill), I know that someones lawyer (if he has one) will crap a boulder when he sees the posts.

Actions after the fact in most jurisdictions can be used against the accused to show motive, remorse, scienter, a continuing scheme... you name it.

In other words, no one really wins an internet pissing match, but someone can lose one, for sure!

Just my humble opinion.



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While I hope this mess comes to a solution that is satifactory to the two folks actually involved (Nixon and Bill), I know that someones lawyer (if he has one) will crap a boulder when he sees the posts.

Actions after the fact in most jurisdictions can be used against the accused to show motive, remorse, scienter, an continuing scheme... you name it.

In other words, no one really wins an internet pissing match, but someone can lose one, for sure!

Just my humble opinion.



Hmmm....sounds like I've heard this before!....PS. I love your picutre JudgeG!!!!

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I have a suggestion on how to handle this controversy.

1. Bill pays into a trust account the monies in controversy to include arbitration fee. Nixon also puts up abitration fee into trust.
2. Both parties submit to binding arbitration
3. Nixons supporters pay for him to travel to the US. They also paid in the arbitration fee (both in lieu of attorney's fees) if unsuccessful. Arbitration fee returned to Nixon if he is successful. Bill pays arbitration fee (already on deposit) to arbiter the "judgment" amount if he loses. Arbitration could be done in Atlanta for less than $1000. Each side limited to party and two witnesses. Any material evidence must be provided the opposite party 2 weeks prior to arbitration if to be considered. Statement of claim to be given Bill one month before arbitration and he is to give statement of defense two weeks thereafter.
4. If Bill has the evidence he claims and/or Nixon has the traveler's check's, etc. the chips will fall where they may.
5. The results are confidential since it is not our business, anyway. In other words, if you give Nixon money, you get the satisfaction that you helped, not the satifaction that "you" won. Same for supporters of Bill.
6. All evidence and statements are also bound by confidentiality and non-disclosure agreement.
7. No statements are to be under oath or recorded (reasons are obvious... trying to settle with least damage to either guy and not promote any criminal prosecution).

It's 7:00 in the morning. I had surgery yesterday and might be not up to good reasoning yet this morning, but perhaps two folks who have had relative successes in their life and no bad accusations of character before can end this bleeding.


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I have a suggestion on how to handle this controversy.

1. Bill pays into a trust account the monies in controversy to include arbitration fee. Nixon also puts up abitration fee into trust.
2. Both parties submit to binding arbitration
3. Nixons supporters pay for him to travel to the US. They also paid in the arbitration fee (both in lieu of attorney's fees) if unsuccessful. Arbitration fee returned to Nixon if he is successful. Bill pays arbitration fee (already on deposit) to arbiter the "judgment" amount if he loses. Arbitration could be done in Atlanta for less than $1000. Each side limited to party and two witnesses. Any material evidence must be provided the opposite party 2 weeks prior to arbitration if to be considered. Statement of claim to be given Bill one month before arbitration and he is to give statement of defense two weeks thereafter.
4. If Bill has the evidence he claims and/or Nixon has the traveler's check's, etc. the chips will fall where they may.
5. The results are confidential since it is not our business, anyway. In other words, if you give Nixon money, you get the satisfaction that you helped, not the satifaction that "you" won. Same for supporters of Bill.
6. All evidence and statements are also bound by confidentiality and non-disclosure agreement.
7. No statements are to be under oath or recorded (reasons are obvious... trying to settle with least damage to either guy and not promote any criminal prosecution).

It's 7:00 in the morning. I had surgery yesterday and might be not up to good reasoning yet this morning, but perhaps two folks who have had relative successes in their life and no bad accusations of character before can end this bleeding.


Judge, that is a great idea.


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I'm GUESSING that Bill is not going to fall all over himself accepting this offer. Roll Eyes


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Thank you, Saaed. I understand little about the whole IP address issue, but know that my posts here are consistently from my work IP address.

JudgeG - I would readily accept an arbitration hearing with Nixon. Given that I have already paid him, I would also expect the right to collect a refund (partial?) when I win. Wire transfer receipts, etc., would be readily available at such a hearing. I've kept everything. Set it up and I am wiling to participate. I highly doubt Nixon will participate, but if he really thinks he is owed some money he should be willing to come to the US. I won't be holding my breathe. We still haven't heard one word from Nixon.
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Bill,

Post exactly what you have paid. Break down your daily fees, trophy fees, and any additional expenses.

If you claim you paid in full, then lets see it.


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As much of a jerk as you have been, I really don't have any issues with you. I could just as easily ask Nixon to post a break down of what he thinks he is owed, and what he acknowledges he has been paid.
I won't ever paste expenses, receipts, etc. on this site for obvious legal reasons. (At east obvious to those who have been paying attention.) For similar reasons, others have already refused to post Nixon's side.

I've accepted the reasonable offer JudgeG put forward to settle this through an arbitrator. Get on your phone to Nixon and see if he is willing to participate in an impartial arbitration. I'm not inrterested in the kangaroo court you want to perpetuate on this forum. I've got the evidence to back me up, and despite your malicious and slanderous accusations, you have nothing to offer. It is time for Nixon to put up, or shut up. And you (among others) will owe me an apology.
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I'm with you Dale. Post copies of your payments. Seems odd you wouldn't post them and put an end this.
 
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Guys, I think Judge has it right. The arbritration idea is a good one. It isn't realistic to ask someone to post a wire transfer on line.

I for one will be the first to apologize (but consider if some of us didn't act the way we did, arbitration would never take place), but given the terms of the arbitration, we will never know. And that is fine with me.

No matter how it turns out, I will be forever miffed as to the circumstances of this affair. It seemed easy enough to address the "nagging questions," the mystery of "AFR Hunter," etc, but I am not as interested in the answers as I am in seeing both parties submit to arbitration.

The ball is in Nixon's court now, IMO.


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To be fair to Nixon, we must remember that he is a guy that is from a failing third-world nation, perhaps somewhat intimidated by all this American idea of arbitration, legal ramifications, etc.

I may not have been fair to him in giving him this challenge, but he has some loyal friends here. I think he'd be o.k., but it really is his choice to arbitrate or not, not mine.... as neither is Bill's.

Nixon may wish to just go through the AmEx claims route or some alternative. Bill and Nixon make their own decisions, of course and should make them in their own best interest. We should all respect what they decide, whatever it may be. Not one of us was there.

My suggestion to them was only that... a suggestion. No one should decide anything about an acceptance, a rejection or just silence from either party, IMHO.

That said, Bill is ready to proceed and put up what seems to be $26K and pay to travel to Atlanta. That's real money. More power to him. I hope he'll do it if Nixon so agrees.

Those of you who have offered support to Nixon, maybe you should contact him, someone walk him through the process... maybe have a party for him to meet some prospective clients in the U.S., etc. If he's owed money, it is a good way to collect it, for sure.

Heck, my whole idea was perhaps half-assed. Maybe a visa to Nixon isn't available. Who knows. I just don't like folks fussing. I'm Rodney King. Can't we all just get along? And shoot some elephants and a lion or three?
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In seriousness, there have been some very particular allegations. I hope they are resolved soon by whatever method. I've put in my two cents worth and shall let the principals and their surragates to their own devices. Good luck!


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Why would Nixon (or his friends) spend (or risk) upwards of $10,000, and Nixon go through the hassle of traveling 20,000 miles, in order to arbitrate a $26,000 dispute?

What kind of calculus is that?

JudgeG, I know you meant well, but that is no solution.

If given a chance (or, perhaps more accurately, if forced to do so), American Express will sort out the $9,000.

As for the rest - well, absent good faith and good will - or legal process - IMHO, it ain't gonna happen.

I have formed my opinion on this matter, and I expect that others have as well.

It's not necessary to get a full explanation or confession for that.


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Two grand for travel, one grand for arbitration, other expenses like hotel, etc. one grand... with $26K in the pot and return of arbitration fees if you win. Where do you get $10K? Nixons supporters promised close to three grand already for legal fees. With arbitration, the issue could be decided in a month, instead of years of civil or criminal litigation... or am I missing something. You don't need a lawyer for arbitration, btw.

Of course, I do this stuff every day and it seems simple to me, but I'm pretty simple minded. I'm a big fan of Alternate Disputes Resolution and getting lawyers out of the way if possible... even if I'm one myself.

There's a Biblical admonition about litigation, btw. If you don't have to, don't. You might not like the consequences.

As I kind of indicated, it was just a suggestion. I had a couple of wives who thought I was an idiot. It doesn't hurt my feelings anymore if anyone else does.

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I am doing much of the process which has been started to get this situation remedied. Nixon is not a member here nor do I forward much of the posts to him. Just a couple of items. He has not personally seen any of what has been said here on AR. He is not "lurking".

I received the original evidence from SSG and have sent it to the proper authorities. That is where it stands at this moment. I want to see this outcome first before any kind of "arbitration" is implemented. Nixon may decide to go that route but I have not forwarded this option to him yet. I have been out of town hunting the past week and will be leaving for another week of hunting in a few days. I only heard of the suggestion this evening. Nixon is not near a computer most of the time but I do correspond with Naison his business manager regularly. Nixon can be gone for a week to two weeks at a time with no computer. He is not hiding from this situation...just busy.

We should know something fairly soon but everyone here will have to be a bit patient. Could be a few weeks I have been told. That is out of my control. The evidence will be reviewed and decisions will be made.

Thanks for the sincere interest in this matter.


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What guarantees are there that either side would show up for an arbitration and what would be the penalties if one doesn't? How would those penalties be enforced? Prior deposits of forfeitable funds? Otherwise I have serious doubts about one side or the other showing up? While I'm not an attorney I've been around afew legal processes in my time and one thing I know for a fact, many times, especially in the course of a dispute, someone SAYING they will do something is NOT anywhere close to that thing being done.


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----- Original Message -----

From: Nixon Dzingai

To: bill Phifer

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:22 PM

Subject: Hunting

Hi Bill

I'm now back home just finished the hunt. I'M glad to tell you that the whole of the stuff are waiting to meet with you.Don't know how do you need this to be done as Ican tell you need more than Elep.you can come much earlie and have more days to hunt and look for the better bull so that we won't rush it.the cost of the 12days Elep hunt is 19000+4%govt levy=19760 this price include one trophy bull and transportation from Harare to camp and back,food and laundly is also included. as Ican see you need more than one animal the trophy fee will apply.

Buffalo 3000

Leop 4000

Nyala 3000

Water Buck 2500

croc 3000

Hippo 3000

kudu 1000

Bush buck 600

tmpala 300

zebra 800

Kilps 600

warthog 400

hyeana 400

wildbeast 800

Leop Baits 200 each.

If you are happy with this whole thing you can send the deposit to seal the deal.we need 10000 now and send the rest just before the hunt or you can bring the remaining 9760 with you and give to me before the hunt.tell me exactly what other animals you will be looking for apart from Elephant and Leopard.if you dont shoot your Elep 9000 will refunded to you or you will shoot other animals to cover your mpney.

Thanks hope to hear from you soon.

Nixon

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From: Bill Phifer

To: Nixon Dzingai

Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:08 PM

Subject: RE: Hunting

Nixon,

I did not receive your e-mail of June 2nd. I am sorry for any confusion. I sent a deposit based on what I had heard from Bobby Lowe previously. (He said you would want $5,000, and I just decided to send $8,000 so you were happy) Thanks for resending your June 2 message. It makes things much more clear. It looks like there won’t be any problem. If you need me to send more before I arrive I can do that.

The only major difference I see is the trophy fee for Leopard, and you did not list the lion fee in your message below. Bobby had indicated $3000 for the leopard and $6000 for the lion. I am willing to work with you so that everyone is happy. I want to be fair. I would be very excited to take a leopard and a lion. I have been told it has been a long time since you have taken a lion on Malapati. Your reputation for killing good leopards is very strong.

Yes, it is a 13 day hunt. I do want to spend most of the time looking for a very good elephant and very good buffalo. If we have good cats on bait, that will be great. With good luck, we will have time for other animals. I do like to hunt very hard. Other animals of interest on your list below would be bushbuck and klipspringer. These are not a priority.

Butch contacted Bobby today for my address to send me the sim cards. I will talk to Butch soon. Let me know if I can bring anything else for your family or staff. I know how hard (and expensive) it can be to find certain items in Zimbabwe.

Thank You,

Bill Phifer

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---- Original Message -----
From: Bill Phifer

To: Nixon Dzingai

Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 5:08 PM

Subject: RE: Hunting

Nixon,

Please put out the baits you feel are necessary to have a successful hunt. I am guessing this may be 3-5 leopard baits and also 1-2 lion baits. If a good lion is in the area we definitely want to keep him well fed! Please replenish any baits actively being fed on.

I talked with Butch over the weekend. He is still very excited about his elephant! He is sending me the SIM cards and I will bring them with me. I have also picked up four watches for your staff. Do they want baseball style hats for the sun or wool hats for warmth? I will also look for a few skinning knives. Let me know if there is anything else I can do.

Cheers!

Bill Phifer

From: Nixon Dzingai [mailto:sengwesafaris@zol.co.zw]
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 11:48 PM
To: Bill Phifer
Subject: Re: Hunting

Thanks my friend Iwill do as you said.5leopard baits plus 2lion baits will be great to start with.Base ball hats for the boys and wool hats for the girls you can also bring some wool warmth for the boys who will be with us on the leopard brind.don't forget the watch's for the girls as well.if you can also look mout for the digetal camela for me if you can.just let me know how much it will cost.also look out for laptop computer if you have time a good second hand will be okay for me just let me know how much the cost will be.

Thanks

Nixon


-- Original Message -----
From: Bill Phifer
To: Nixon Dzingai
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Wire transfer


Nixon,


I sent another wire transfer this morning for $12K. I will start my journey from the US Sunday morning. Will your son meet me in Harare, or will you be there? Please send me contact information in the event that flights are delayed, etc. I am currently scheduled to arrive in Harare at 19:40, on 22 June, SA flight #24.

Cheers!

Bill Phifer



According to the email exchange between Phifer and Nixon:

Phifer wired Nixon 8k and then an additional 12k prior to his hunt for elephant. The agreed price for the elephant hunt was 20k. In addition, Phifer agreed to purchase multiple baits for leopard and lion.

Phifer during his hunt, shot an additional elephant, 2 buff, 1 croc and 1 giraffe.

The 26k Phifer owes is for the trophy fees for the animals he shot.

Do you really think arbitration will resolve this with a person like Phifer who lacks integrity? Phifer has lied about this entire situation:

1. Phifer claimed he had his American express checks stolen.

2. Phifer fabricated a story that Nixon stole his laptop, camera and other items. Phifers own emails states that these were gifts.

3. Phifer denies that he shot all of these animals that Nixon says he did. Phifer will not clarify exactly what animals he did shoot.


Again, does anyone really think an arbitration court would really be fair to Nixon? What is there to arbitrate? Phifer shot the animals and he owes the money for the trophy fees.


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What guarantees are there that either side would show up for an arbitration and what would be the penalties if one doesn't? How would those penalties be enforced? Prior deposits of forfeitable funds? Otherwise I have serious doubts about one side or the other showing up? While I'm not an attorney I've been around afew legal processes in my time and one thing I know for a fact, many times, especially in the course of a dispute, someone SAYING they will do something is NOT anywhere close to that thing being done.


Gato:

I woke up this morning, as I usually do, before dawn and the first thing that popped into my mind was this: The terms of the arbitration will not work unless Bill deposits the funds with an escrow agent prior to arbitration.

Otherwise, he goes to arbitration, receives a judgement against him, and then simply decides not to pay. And since the results are not public knowledge, he is off the hook.

But I do see it as a good sign that he is willing to face arbitration. I will chip in for Nixon's travel. But the terms should specify that Bill fronts the entire 25K or whatever the disputed amount might me to an escrow agent.


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From: Nixon Dzingai

To: bill Phifer

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:22 PM

Subject: Hunting

Hi Bill

I'm now back home just finished the hunt. I'M glad to tell you that the whole of the stuff are waiting to meet with you.Don't know how do you need this to be done as Ican tell you need more than Elep.you can come much earlie and have more days to hunt and look for the better bull so that we won't rush it.the cost of the 12days Elep hunt is 19000+4%govt levy=19760 this price include one trophy bull and transportation from Harare to camp and back,food and laundly is also included. as Ican see you need more than one animal the trophy fee will apply.

Buffalo 3000

Leop 4000

Nyala 3000

Water Buck 2500

croc 3000

Hippo 3000

kudu 1000

Bush buck 600

tmpala 300

zebra 800

Kilps 600

warthog 400

hyeana 400

wildbeast 800

Leop Baits 200 each.

If you are happy with this whole thing you can send the deposit to seal the deal.we need 10000 now and send the rest just before the hunt or you can bring the remaining 9760 with you and give to me before the hunt.tell me exactly what other animals you will be looking for apart from Elephant and Leopard.if you dont shoot your Elep 9000 will refunded to you or you will shoot other animals to cover your mpney.

Thanks hope to hear from you soon.

Nixon

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Phifer

To: Nixon Dzingai

Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:08 PM

Subject: RE: Hunting

Nixon,

I did not receive your e-mail of June 2nd. I am sorry for any confusion. I sent a deposit based on what I had heard from Bobby Lowe previously. (He said you would want $5,000, and I just decided to send $8,000 so you were happy) Thanks for resending your June 2 message. It makes things much more clear. It looks like there won’t be any problem. If you need me to send more before I arrive I can do that.

The only major difference I see is the trophy fee for Leopard, and you did not list the lion fee in your message below. Bobby had indicated $3000 for the leopard and $6000 for the lion. I am willing to work with you so that everyone is happy. I want to be fair. I would be very excited to take a leopard and a lion. I have been told it has been a long time since you have taken a lion on Malapati. Your reputation for killing good leopards is very strong.

Yes, it is a 13 day hunt. I do want to spend most of the time looking for a very good elephant and very good buffalo. If we have good cats on bait, that will be great. With good luck, we will have time for other animals. I do like to hunt very hard. Other animals of interest on your list below would be bushbuck and klipspringer. These are not a priority.

Butch contacted Bobby today for my address to send me the sim cards. I will talk to Butch soon. Let me know if I can bring anything else for your family or staff. I know how hard (and expensive) it can be to find certain items in Zimbabwe.

Thank You,

Bill Phifer

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---- Original Message -----
From: Bill Phifer

To: Nixon Dzingai

Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 5:08 PM

Subject: RE: Hunting

Nixon,

Please put out the baits you feel are necessary to have a successful hunt. I am guessing this may be 3-5 leopard baits and also 1-2 lion baits. If a good lion is in the area we definitely want to keep him well fed! Please replenish any baits actively being fed on.

I talked with Butch over the weekend. He is still very excited about his elephant! He is sending me the SIM cards and I will bring them with me. I have also picked up four watches for your staff. Do they want baseball style hats for the sun or wool hats for warmth? I will also look for a few skinning knives. Let me know if there is anything else I can do.

Cheers!

Bill Phifer

From: Nixon Dzingai [mailto:sengwesafaris@zol.co.zw]
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 11:48 PM
To: Bill Phifer
Subject: Re: Hunting

Thanks my friend Iwill do as you said.5leopard baits plus 2lion baits will be great to start with.Base ball hats for the boys and wool hats for the girls you can also bring some wool warmth for the boys who will be with us on the leopard brind.don't forget the watch's for the girls as well.if you can also look mout for the digetal camela for me if you can.just let me know how much it will cost.also look out for laptop computer if you have time a good second hand will be okay for me just let me know how much the cost will be.

Thanks

Nixon


-- Original Message -----
From: Bill Phifer
To: Nixon Dzingai
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Wire transfer


Nixon,


I sent another wire transfer this morning for $12K. I will start my journey from the US Sunday morning. Will your son meet me in Harare, or will you be there? Please send me contact information in the event that flights are delayed, etc. I am currently scheduled to arrive in Harare at 19:40, on 22 June, SA flight #24.

Cheers!

Bill Phifer



According to the email exchange between Phifer and Nixon:

Phifer wired Nixon 8k and then an additional 12k prior to his hunt for elephant. The agreed price for the elephant hunt was 20k. In addition, Phifer agreed to purchase multiple baits for leopard and lion.

Phifer during his hunt, shot an additional elephant, 2 buff, 1 croc and 1 giraffe.

The 26k Phifer owes is for the trophy fees for the animals he shot.

Do you really think arbitration will resolve this with a person like Phifer who lacks integrity? Phifer has lied about this entire situation:

1. Phifer claimed he had his American express checks stolen.

2. Phifer fabricated a story that Nixon stole his laptop, camera and other items. Phifers own emails states that these were gifts.

3. Phifer denies that he shot all of these animals that Nixon says he did. Phifer will not clarify exactly what animals he did shoot.


Again, does anyone really think an arbitration court would really be fair to Nixon? What is there to arbitrate? Phifer shot the animals and he owes the money for the trophy fees.


dale


Dale,

I would think Nixon has a copy of the license showing what Phifer shot. Unless, of course, there were animals that didn't go on the license. Then he has no proof anything happened. If that is the case, then both parties are in a deep bag of shit.

However, you stated that Nixon paid the govt TFs, so I assume everything is on the license.

I have never hunted Zim, but in Tanz you have to close out your license before you leave. I would assume the same is true in Zim. Am I missing something?


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Again, does anyone really think an arbitration court would really be fair to Nixon? What is there to arbitrate? Phifer shot the animals and he owes the money for the trophy fees.



Nothing you have posted would suggest to me that an arbitration court would not be fair to Nixon. Why wouldn't it? He has to have proof that Phifer shot the animals, which should be easy to obtain and a total cost accounting versus what he was paid (not including the "stolen" TCs). If he has such proof, and has not been paid, then it seems like an open and shut case to me.

Bottom line and this is just my opinion, if Nixon isn't willing to go to a binding arb hearing with prior appropriate guarantees of payment, then I'm wondering if he's as right as you seem to think he is.


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Again, does anyone really think an arbitration court would really be fair to Nixon? What is there to arbitrate? Phifer shot the animals and he owes the money for the trophy fees.



Nothing you have posted would suggest to me that an arbitration court would not be fair to Nixon. Why wouldn't it? He has to have proof that Phifer shot the animals, which should be easy to obtain and a total cost accounting versus what he was paid (not including the "stolen" TCs). If he has such proof, and has not been paid, then it seems like an open and shut case to me.

Bottom line and this is just my opinion, if Nixon isn't willing to go to a binding arb hearing with prior appropriate guarantees of payment, then I'm wondering if he's as right as you seem to think he is.


Again, the terms of the arbritration would have to be constructed such that Phifer, if found to be liable, does not just ignore the judgement.


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I am doing much of the process which has been started to get this situation remedied. Nixon is not a member here nor do I forward much of the posts to him. Just a couple of items. He has not personally seen any of what has been said here on AR. He is not "lurking".

I received the original evidence from SSG and have sent it to the proper authorities. That is where it stands at this moment. I want to see this outcome first before any kind of "arbitration" is implemented. Nixon may decide to go that route but I have not forwarded this option to him yet. I have been out of town hunting the past week and will be leaving for another week of hunting in a few days. I only heard of the suggestion this evening. Nixon is not near a computer most of the time but I do correspond with Naison his business manager regularly. Nixon can be gone for a week to two weeks at a time with no computer. He is not hiding from this situation...just busy.

We should know something fairly soon but everyone here will have to be a bit patient. Could be a few weeks I have been told. That is out of my control. The evidence will be reviewed and decisions will be made.

Thanks for the sincere interest in this matter.


From the original member who started this thread, we get the most important information - Nixon doesn't know what has been said on this thread. I've said all along, I haven't heard from Nixon, and these third party attacks are baseless and impossible to defend against. Nixon and I know the truth. The rest is foolish speculation. I also said in my first post I was eager to find a US based person from which to extract my pound of flesh. I'm glad to hear Bobby continue to insist he is working as Nixon's agent. All these threads make it so much easier to advance my case.
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I would like you to promise to give us all a full and complete accounting of this entire controversy in chronological order once it is settled. This is assumes you do not sign a non disclosure agreement as part of any final settlement.
Can we count on you to do that?


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Good for you and both of your former wives.

But forgive me for suggesting that you are far from an idiot (but not very far) if you think:

(i) that arbitration is desirable (especially for a foreign national up against a US citizen right here in the USA); or

(ii) that arbitration can be had for $1,000 (where the arbiter is supplied at no extra cost with a brain); or

(iii) that a lawyer is not needed for arbitration.

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But that is, as always, just my opinion, albeit an opinion formed from doing this for a living myself. Big Grin

I for one am interested to see what dukxdog's efforts will produce.


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I had a couple of wives who thought I was an idiot.
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Good for you and both of your former wives.

But forgive me for suggesting that you are far from an idiot (but not very far) if you think:

(i) that arbitration is desirable (especially for a foreign national up against a US citizen right here in the USA); or

(ii) that arbitration can be had for $1,000 (where the arbiter is supplied at no extra cost with a brain); or

(iii) that a lawyer is not needed for arbitration.

bewildered Big Grin

But that is, as always, just my opinion, albeit an opinion formed from doing this for a living myself. Big Grin

I for one am interested to see what dukxdog's efforts will produce.


I have been involved in Alternated Disputes Resolution since 1986 or so. In smaller claims, and this is not a large claim if $26k is the total of the dispute, there are plenty of programs that are available in Atlanta for lay folks... all perfectly legal, all available for about $200@hr and they have methods that assure anyone can fairly be heard. As to foreign citizens... I don't think any "Americans" live in Atlanta... go to Chamblee if you don't believe me! Big Grin

This is not a complicated case. If Bill signed his bill, acknowledged taking the game, signed the travelers checks, if there are pictures of the animals, dip and pack records, paid receipts to Parks, etc. Pee Wee Herman could present them.

Lawyers sometimes want to make mountains out of molehills. JMHO.

That said, it seems that Nixon, through a U.S. contact, has submitted travelers checks to AmEx or someone here in the states for review.

While Bill has apparently offered to put $26k in trust for binding arbitration, it may be too late as those wheels have alrealdy started turning.

I made a suggestion that I hoped could put two folks in the same room with an unbiased decision maker. It ain't perfect, but it would be quick, final and probalby lead to the truth without anyone going to jail, losing a licence, being further subject to public ridicule, etc. The logistics wouldn't be easy, of course... and I'm afraid that the opportunity has passed, anyway.

Having been scolded about my suggestion, I'll leave the parties to their own devices, something I, perhaps, should have done in the beginning.


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While Bill has apparently offered to put $26k in trust for binding arbitration, it may be too late as those wheels have alrealdy started turning.


Where has he made that offer?


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The first paragraph of the arbitration proposal has that stipulation. Bill's response "apparently" accepted it.

I agree that it would make no sense to arbitrate if the funds weren't already in trust.


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You're absolutely right, my bad. I wasn't reading your post with my usual vigor. I'll be very interested to hear if and when an arb proceeding goes forward, because it will mean that the disputed funds have been deposited. I won't hold my breath.


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I frankly fail to see how this whole fiasco hurts Nixon from a clientel (sp) aspect. The court of public opinion is weighing heavily on his side, I only wish I had the means, myself. How many PH outfitters would now take said hunter anything other than prepaid? Some justice is automatic, it seems. BTW, Gatogordo, if you want to create a fund just to benefit Nixon to help him stay solvent, I'm in for my little bit, just on principle.
 
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I didn't adopt Nixon, I don't even know him or any of the principals involved, nor do I intend to hunt in Zimbabwe anytime in the forseeable future. Therefore, while I would contribute to see that justice, or as close an approximation as we can get, is done as relates to this episode, I'm not going to originate nor contribute to a fund designed for Nixon's benefit outside of this episode. I would suggest that other PHs are more needful, such as Alan Shearing and his family (who I don't know either) and probably others I'm forgetting right now.


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I didn't adopt Nixon, I don't even know him or any of the principals involved, nor do I intend to hunt in Zimbabwe anytime in the forseeable future. Therefore, while I would contribute to see that justice, or as close an approximation as we can get, is done as relates to this episode, I'm not going to originate nor contribute to a fund designed for Nixon's benefit outside of this episode. I would suggest that other PHs are more needful, such as Alan Shearing and his family (who I don't know either) and probably others I'm forgetting right now.


Contributing to a fund for the TFs Nixon paid does not solve the problem. Just let's Phifer off the hook.

One of two people here are lying. Forget who shot what. Either Nixon stole Phifer's traveler's checks and forged them, or Phifer signed the checks and then reported them missing.

One of those two scenarios is true. Does Nixon have a receipt showing where Nixon paid the 9K with TCs? That would seem to be a good place to start.


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