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Originally posted by Ganyana:
1) Check that your PH is a paid up member of the association ZPHGA.

2) Check that your PH is a paid up member of the association


ZPHGA isn't perfect. Alot of zim PH's say they couldn't be bothered to join becuase an handful of operators run/manipulate it etc and they fail to get fair representation in the area of daily rates vs the operators yada yada.

Partly true...however, If a PH gets expelled from ZPHGA for conduct unbecomming...the US Embassy is in the habit of denying said PH a visa to come and sell at the shows. That alone is a VERY good incentive for the PH to stay above board. So, If you hunt with a PH who is a member then at least you know that he has done nothing too dodgy- stolen deposits, run a canned lion hunt, been poaching on other folks concessions/land etc.

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Originally posted by dogcat:
ARF is hiding behind the internet. You will not get any facts from this "poster".

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Originally posted by AFR. Hunter:
Several years ago I was on a hunt in Zimbabwe that turned out to have all sorts of legal problems. For my own protection, I don't make a big deal about it publicly, but I can see another hunter was recently taken advantage of by the same PH. I won't name the outfit on this thread, but it won't take any genious to put it all together.

The end result of my situation was the PH lost a small part of his concession. I never received any compensation. So my question to the forum:
What can a hunter do when his hunts comes to an end, he is still in Zimbabwe with the PH, and he learns the PH has been conducting part of the hunt illegally. In my case, local police had been in and out of camp several times during the hunt, seemingly friendly, but I later learned getting bribes. The PH shook me down for an extra $5K in bribes at the end of the hunt in order to "keep me from getting arrested". It turns out we were actually hunting with the National Park, which I didn't know at the time. The money seemed a small amount weighed against spending some time in a Zimbabwe jail, but I was more than a little pissed. Complaints after the fact led to him loosing part of his concession, but nothing to help me.
If I had known about AR back then, maybe I would have been able to warn others. I've been lurking on this site for a few months now, and just started to post. Just thought I would see what other members would advise in this situation. All along I thought I was the only one who got screwed by this PH. This is a great forum to warn others.

AFR. Hunter

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Originally posted by martin pieters:
Hi AFR

As a committee member of SOAZ , and ZPHGA, please send me a pm or if you prefer a reply publicly, so that we can take this matter up on a national level. We are in desperate need of addressing our industry, and making sure it is legal. Zimbabwe needs to maintain its international credibility as a professional industry, in this day and age, we can no longer afford to let these activities go unnoticed.

Names are important so that adequate follow ups can be implemented.

Martin Pieters

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Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:

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Originally posted by dogcat:
ARF is hiding behind the internet. You will not get any facts from this "poster".

....but Saeed can get said poster's IP address and see who this really is!

Brett

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:

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Originally posted by dogcat:
ARF is hiding behind the internet. You will not get any facts from this "poster".

....but Saeed can get said poster's IP address and see who this really is!

Brett

I checked his IP address, and it does not belong to anyone else I checked.

His ISP is in Salt lake City, Utah.

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Originally posted by Buzz Charlton:
Hi AFR Hunter

I am sorry to hear about your experience. Zim has always prided ourselves on been ethical/ law abiding operators, however lately there seems to be a fair amount of "ducking and diving" from numerous so called "operators". My advice to you and others who have had bad experiences is to name the guilty parties.

Not only will it hopefully put them out of buisness but will protect others who may unwittingly have the same experience that you had.

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Originally posted by martin pieters:
Hi AFR

As a committee member of SOAZ , and ZPHGA, please send me a pm or if you prefer a reply publicly, so that we can take this matter up on a national level. We are in desperate need of addressing our industry, and making sure it is legal. Zimbabwe needs to maintain its international credibility as a professional industry, in this day and age, we can no longer afford to let these activities go unnoticed.

Names are important so that adequate follow ups can be implemented.

Martin Pieters

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His ISP is in Salt lake City, Utah.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
My comment had nothing to do with damages.

I would want them to represent to me that there was no violating laws of any sort. That way, if anyone ever accuses me of, for example, hunting a buffalo when there was no quota, I can show them that I got representation to the contrary.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
AFR.Hunter:

Somewhat tongue-in-cheek (and in line of your accusations elsewhere that Scott and some others violated the Lacy act), if you received your trophies from the above hunt, didn't you break the Lacy Act yourself?

Hell, we might ought all quit accusing each other of stuff or we'll need an "AR only" facility in some Federal Prison...

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
This is too much. I was wondering when Bill Phifer was going to log onto another computer. Doesn't even bother to switch cities.

Bill, you are a real jerk. I would guess it is only a matter of time before someone mails your boss incriminating material.

Personally, I contacted a writer I know at the Wall Street Journal. I doubt the story will see print, but if it does, you are going to wish you paid the TFs.

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I find it interesting that the few PH's who willing to post on this are recommending a wait and see attitude, while a relatively small group are demanding a public lynching.

I don't know who is right. I suspect that the way things are settled out of court we all will never know, but I am saddened to see the rush to judgment that we are seeing here.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
crbutler:

Study the threads. Look at the data. Explain to me how on earth Bill Phifer aka Llamapacker's story makes any sense whatsoever. To sum it up;

1. Phifer goes on a hunt and posts a "what would you do in this situation" the situation being his PH had him shoot a dink ele.
2. We hear nothing else. Nothing. Nothing until another post informs us that Nixon claims he got stiffed on Phifer's trophy fees. Traveler's checks that Nixon said Bill signed in camp are reported stolen when Nixon tries to cash them.
3. Phifer claims that the checks were stolen and that he did indeed pay his trophy fees using a wire transfer. He also states, without going into detail, that he will not be paying the dip/pack fees (which amounts to less than a tip).

Now, given these facts, consider what has happened:

1. Phifer goes on a hunt and has his traveler's checks stolen and says nothing to anyone. Llamapacker up until now has not been shy about posting anything. Except this issue.
2. He claims to have paid his trophy fees with a wire. Yet, he has failed to provide any proof.
3. This one kills me: he pays the trophy fees, or so he says, and then claims that he will not be paying the dip/pack fee. So he pays 25K and leaves everything in Zim? This is the same guy who went on ad nauseum about his new "trophy room" - meaning trophies mean very much to him.
4. In order for Phifer story to make any sense, Nixon would have to be lying about getting paid the trophy fees, and lying that Phifer gave him the TCs. Now, why would Nixon lie about that? It puts him in the limelight. It is quite easy to prove you paid TFs, so why would Nixon go out on a limb with these wild accusations? All Phifer would have to do is post a copy of the wire transfer. Obviously, that isn't going to happen.

It just doesn't make sense. What more do you have to see or know to conclude at this point the data is overwhelmingly NOT in favor of Phifer? It is up to him to dispute our observations, yet he refuses to do so.

As for the other PHs, you will note none of them have addressed how Phifer could be lilly white. Rather, they have cast accusations that somehow Nixon is not lily white. What they have failed to do is paint any scenario that exonerates Phifer.

Personally, I think Phifer is wannabee who got in over his head and is now trying to screw a better man than he will ever be.

Character. It's not what you do when things are going right, it is what you do when the shit hits the fan. And in this case, the shitbag is Bill Phifer.