Been reading the seemingly endless conversation about the hunter and the PH and who did what to whom, and no question it is a mess all around.
I know nothing about what game, size, species are legal and illegal in Zim, but if indeed the PH through whatever manner put the hunter on illegal game, why in the world would the PH go on the internet and bring up the subject of non payment surely knowing that such activity would bring about a lot more attention from all sources than he would want?? Perhaps the hunter realizing that the game taken was illegal and counted on that point that surely the PH would not go public with the matter of non payment?? It will most likely not get resolved on this forum. Can you imagine someone who has been giving serious thought to going on a hunt in Zim reading all of this and not having second thoughts?? I have no plans on going to Africa to hunt, but if I did I would surely have a very full history of the PH and his past hunts and how they turned out. Whatever the total costs amount to, be it daily rates, trophy fees, taxidermists, etc., give the PH 50% up front and balance upon completion of the hunt. If I were the PH, whatever the balance due would be paid upon completion of the hunt or retain the passport. Well realize hunting is a sport, but hunting in Africa is a business activity with no small amount of money involved. To pretend it is not business brings about problems that we too often read about.
If I am paying the money I'll determine the terms or won't do the deal.

quote:

Originally posted by MFD:
Been reading the seemingly endless conversation about the hunter and the PH and who did what to whom, and no question it is a mess all around.
I know nothing about what game, size, species are legal and illegal in Zim, but if indeed the PH through whatever manner put the hunter on illegal game, why in the world would the PH go on the internet and bring up the subject of non payment surely knowing that such activity would bring about a lot more attention from all sources than he would want?? Perhaps the hunter realizing that the game taken was illegal and counted on that point that surely the PH would not go public with the matter of non payment?? It will most likely not get resolved on this forum. Can you imagine someone who has been giving serious thought to going on a hunt in Zim reading all of this and not having second thoughts?? I have no plans on going to Africa to hunt, but if I did I would surely have a very full history of the PH and his past hunts and how they turned out. Whatever the total costs amount to, be it daily rates, trophy fees, taxidermists, etc., give the PH 50% up front and balance upon completion of the hunt. If I were the PH, whatever the balance due would be paid upon completion of the hunt or retain the passport. Well realize hunting is a sport, but hunting in Africa is a business activity with no small amount of money involved. To pretend it is not business brings about problems that we too often read about.
If I am paying the money I'll determine the terms or won't do the deal.

The PH/Outfitter didn't post this, rather a former satisfied client/friend posted it, no doubt with the very best intentions of trying to shame Bill into settling up with Nixon.

I've no idea whether Nixon knew about the post before hand and if he did, maybe he didn't realise/ think the other allegations would surface...

Regards,

Peter

I have been following this and the other similar thread.

My dad and I went on safari (with a different outfitter/PH) in Zimbabwe September 2009 and were thrilled beyond our imagination with every aspect of it.

If I had read this and the other thread prior to our departure I am certain I would have cencelled the trip. No question, no doubt, no reservations, no looking back - we would have missed the trip that we had spent our lifetimes dreaming about and saving for - and probably lost most of the money we put down for it.

While this forum is the very reason I made the moves that ultimately lead to booking the safari - yup, it never would have happened if it werent for so many of the people here on AR who taught me, advised me, cajoled me, enthused me and enjoyed the experiencs with me (through the magic of the internet), this and the other thread would have been the reason I cancelled it.

This forum too has pointed towards things I should avoid, the bad people, places and things and for that too I owe a great debt of gratitude. This and the other thread were started, I am sure, to serve as the warnings that were so helpful to me. They both devolved into horrible, hearsay-filled diatribes which haven't let facts stand in the way of vitriol.

Steve Shakari and others have said it right all along - their advice is sound. My understanding of that advice was not to judge anyone until all of the facts were avaiable.

I am writing this for one reason: Before we had even left Bulawayo, my dad who was about to turn 70 said to me "When are we coming back?" It was as unexpected a question as it was thrilling because I was wondering the same thing. After reading this and the other thread, I am not sure I ever want to risk going back and that is after a dream came true. I have the benefit of my personal experience to weigh in against these bad ones. Nevertheless, the strength and vehemence demonstrated here is overwhelming and negative. I can only imagine someone who has not had such a great experience as my dad and I would be even more dissuaded from visiting Africa. It would be a true shame and loss for every person who had that dream to let this thread darken their visions of the hunting trip of a lifetime.

All I am saying is to seriously consider Steve's and other's advice to withhold judgement (on any party). I am sure all parties here want the African Safari industry to prosper and for the dreams of going on Safari to be fulfilled.

Respectfully to all,
Paul

I am of the opinion that that there are “a few” troublemakers that are spoiling it for rest. I do not know if the outfitter mentioned here is one of them or not, but I suspect to some extent he got caught in a net that is really intended for others. Everybody in Zim knows who these troublemakers are, as does our Embassy (many of these guys have been denied visa’s, for example), this is not a secret. The problem is that these guys are amazingly durable, assisted by the politics of the region no doubt, and somehow keep coming back to “make a new plan”. I am not saying that minor infractions should be tolerated or go unpunished necessarily, but that the actions of a few make it more likely that a heavy hand will be levied on those who otherwise might get a slap on the wrist.

The hunting in Zimbabwe (and elsewhere, I often marvel at how much info comes out of Zim when other countries have the same problems/challenges, as witnessed recently in Namibia w/the cat hunting) would be much better off long-term if the minority of troublemakers were dealt with once and for all. Others who might be tempted to take short-cuts or whatever would be less likely to cross the line. I could be proven wrong and perhaps this is a bit idealistic, but what I hope we are seeing right now is the “correction” following years of turmoil in Zim, and that the end result will be a somewhat cleaner, more future-oriented hunting industry.

As far as cancelling a trip because of fear of getting into a bad situation, I understand and appreciate what you write, but I say a little fear (caution) is healthy if it causes people to research outfitters and offers more thoroughly. There are awesome operators operating in Zimbabwe and elsewhere, some of whom are members of this forum (such as Martin Pieters and Buzz Charlton, two mates yes, but mates because of their high ethical standards) or otherwise represented. An informed market can help sort out the “bad apples”.

Peter,
I stand corrected on that point as to the party actually doing the initial posting. I would imagine that the PH could have done without this help from an associate, but that is hindsight. Let's hope it all works out for the best in the end and folks can go about living their life long dreams of a Safari, wherever it may take place.

Well, about a month has rolled by with no further posts......I wonder if everyone who started this is looking for cover, or what?
Is the no-good, non-paying SOB going to get away with it as seems likely?

For idle entertainment I looked back and noted the time and date of the original thread is 1/6/10 at 5:24, I wouldn't know if thats am or pm.

Gato, on 1/6/10 at 6:20 you made your first post on the thread, ( just under an hour after the first post, and at 8:05 on the same day you offered a $5,000.00 incentive.

An hour and a half after the original thread was posted you're up to your wallet in starting the shit storm that resulted in the investigation of the ph in question by ZPHGA. Why aren't you looking for cover?

Lemme guess. You, Dux, Az and the rest have moved on to another more recent but no less salacious internet controversy.

I'd like to hear the final outcome of the investigation and how much or how little the internet rescuers of Nixon like yourself cost him in fines and penalties.

Had you any shame you'd contact Nixon directly and deposit the $5k you were electronically waving around like a roman candle into his bank account.

quote:

Originally posted by Scott King:
For idle entertainment I looked back and noted the time and date of the original thread is 1/6/10 at 5:24, I wouldn't know if thats am or pm.

Gato, on 1/6/10 at 6:20 you made your first post on the thread, ( just under an hour after the first post, and at 8:05 on the same day you offered a $5,000.00 incentive.

An hour and a half after the original thread was posted you're up to your wallet in starting the shit storm that resulted in the investigation of the ph in question by ZPHGA. Why aren't you looking for cover?

Lemme guess. You, Dux, Az and the rest have moved on to another more recent but no less salacious internet controversy.

I'd like to hear the final outcome of the investigation and how much or how little the internet rescuers of Nixon like yourself cost him in fines and penalties.

Had you any shame you'd contact Nixon directly and deposit the $5k you were electronically waving around like a roman candle into his bank account.

Scott:

You think Phifer is the victim here? Answer that please. And support it with why you feel that way.

You have been hanging out in Dillingham too long.

Phifer filed a complaint with SOAZ. He was told to sette it with Nixon. In essence, he lost.

Phifer is not my idea of a good ambassador. I guess you think he is; if so, you just went down big time in my book. I am tired of hearing stories about US hunters stiffing outfitters. There is a guy here in PHX, a PHX SCI board member, who did it to a New Zealand operator. I complained to SCI and was told it was a private matter. Well, my donation checkbook is a private matter as well.

To the best of my knowledge, Nixon is alive and well. He has not paid a single dime in fines and penalties.

Your quote: "You, Dux, Az and the rest have moved on to another more recent but no less salacious internet controversy." Tell me, what other salacious controversy are we involved in? It is funny that a guy who spends 90% of his time on the political forum would use the word "salacious."

I never heard of Nixon before, but I will book a hunt a with him if I ever have the desire to hunt in Zim. At least I wont' have to worry about being arrested for fraud when I try to clear customs in Zim.

quote:

Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:

Scott:

You think Phifer is the victim here? Answer that please. And support it with why you feel that way.

You have been hanging out in Dillingham too long.

Phifer filed a complaint with SOAZ. He was told to sette it with Nixon. In essence, he lost.

Phifer is not my idea of a good ambassador. I guess you think he is; if so, you just went down big time in my book. I am tired of hearing stories about US hunters stiffing outfitters. There is a guy here in PHX, a PHX SCI board member, who did it to a New Zealand operator. I complained to SCI and was told it was a private matter. Well, my donation checkbook is a private matter as well.

To the best of my knowledge, Nixon is alive and well. He has not paid a single dime in fines and penalties.

Your quote: "You, Dux, Az and the rest have moved on to another more recent but no less salacious internet controversy." Tell me, what other salacious controversy are we involved in? It is funny that a guy who spends 90% of his time on the political forum would use the word "salacious."

I never heard of Nixon before, but I will book a hunt a with him if I ever have the desire to hunt in Zim. At least I wont' have to worry about being arrested for fraud when I try to clear customs in Zim.

There is not a single example of any indication of me defending, applauding, or supporting this Phifer person. Where you got the idea that I think Phifer is the victim I wouldn't know. Since you asked, no, I don't think he is or was a victim in any of this saga. This "book" of yours you refer to, am I up "big time" in it?

As to your next salacious internet controversey, its hard for me to say at this point. you fellers are usually days ahead of me in stirring the pot, I'll have to wait and read whats printed.

I know, you don't get it, and its too bad, but the fact remains that the interest in Nixon generated on these threads brought the attention of Martin Pieters and ZPHGA on Nixon and his business. I'm inclined to think Nixon, (according to the info posted on these threads,) has been double victimized, the second time by self appointed saviors like yourself and Gato and Dux that din't know darn well when to shut up inspite of more than a few warnings by Ganyana, Shakiri and more.

If you book with Nixon, and I certainly hope you do, at the end of your hunt I hope you tip him doubly well. I believe you owe him at least that to make up for the bad advertizing you've given him here.

You may have the last word. I'll drop it, heck I never should have started, unless you ask me nicely again.

Scott King:

You're an idiot and I'm not going to waste the time debating it with you. I don't know ANY of the people involved in this personally and have never met them in person, nor am I one that lives by behind the back PMs as many in here do. Just as I posted originally, I'm not paying Nixon to make up for his being screwed UNLESS the person who screwed him is legally convicted of a crime, which I think he well deserves for the TCs. OTOH, the offer is still open. I do what I think is right, back what I think is right, and that's that. If you don't like it, let me close with a heartfelt FUCK YOU!

quote:

Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:

I never heard of Nixon before, but I will book a hunt a with him if I ever have the desire to hunt in Zim. At least I wont' have to worry about being arrested for fraud when I try to clear customs in Zim.

AZWriter,

What happens if you book with Nixon and when you get to the camp he sends you out with Simon on your DG hunt? Would you not be concerned? This is completely seperate from the Phifer matter. This is about knowingly conducting illegal hunts. With so many other reputable operations, why in the world would you want to risk it?

quote:

Originally posted by Bwanahile:

quote:

Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:

I never heard of Nixon before, but I will book a hunt a with him if I ever have the desire to hunt in Zim. At least I wont' have to worry about being arrested for fraud when I try to clear customs in Zim.

AZWriter,

What happens if you book with Nixon and when you get to the camp he sends you out with Simon on your DG hunt? Would you not be concerned? This is completely seperate from the Phifer matter. This is about knowingly conducting illegal hunts. With so many other reputable operations, why in the world would you want to risk it?

Bwana:

What happens if I get Simon? I would do the same thing if Nixon stole my TCs: I would leave.

Why would I book with Nixon? Because I trust SBT, and I have had several discussions with him on this subject.

But make no mistake, if Nixon is guilty, then so be it. I feel no remorse if he was doing something illegal and got cuffed for it. But let he who is pure cast the first stone. There are all kinds of things "illegal" that happen every day in Africa. I will spare you the details; we all know what they are.

But you are right - selection of an operator is not to be taken lightly. But I trust SBT; my gut tells me he is a straight shooter.

Here is the bottom line of this issue: if Phifer hadn't shot the wrong elephant, this whole thing would have been a non-issue.

A few years ago a guide had me shoot an elk that came in behind us. I could see the head and brow tines sticking out from a under a tree. The guide said "shoot."

That guide knew I had shot more than one 6x6 in my life and I didn't need or want to shoot a raghorn. But that is exactly what I did - I shot a raghorn. Did I go on AR and rant and rave, or pose hypothetical questions like Phifer did? No. I paid up. I pulled the trigger. Two years later I shot a very nice bull, maybe a 340 (good for the Selway). That outfitter did okay in the end.

quote:

Originally posted by Gatogordo:
Scott King:

let me close with a heartfelt FUCK YOU!

Gato; That was unnecessary and has no place on this forum. Debate an issue like a man and not like a petulant teenager.
JCHB

on feb. 6 2010 i posted a reply that this thread should never been started and was pretty much told off and considered the response i recieved very rude. here it is mar. 17 2010 the thread continues and the replies are becoming even more rude.[ie gato] its to bad this thread has come to this level or for that matter this forum.

People clearly have rather intense feelings on this issue. I am not sure why but they nevertheless do have these feelings.

I don't think anyone should apologize for taking a position here. If Nixon was breaking the law, bad on him and I am glad it came out. As the old saying goes,"If you wanna play, you gotta pay." Would you rather these guys kept quiet & we never knew Simon was not licensed? I say no.

I have not heard a single thing yet that causes me to believe llamapacker had a just cause for not paying. The travelers check issue may even be criminal.

I think there is fault with both sides. However, I am not going to insult someone just because they don't see it my way.

The one thing I don't like about this forum is that personal attacks that are often made. Granted, there is an occasional ass hole that deserves it (adrook, chobebushbuck, etc).

BTT for the benefit of new readers.

See here:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...1411043/m/7961030131

And here:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...043/m/7021038321/p/1

The wheels of justice turns slowly!

Andrew McLaren

Let's add another link to this thread:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7921087021
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4501036021

This is SBT's and H.Kittle's account of their hunt. During the investigation of Nixon with Parks, SBT and HKittle submitted a letter stating that they did not hunt with Simon, and essentially their hunt reports on AR were false. They have proceeded with trying to import their illegally taken trophies. When people like Jack deBold and others want to keep fanning the flames, they clearly don't realize who they are hurting.
I recently received an e-mail from Nixon asking that we let the matter rest. I never started this on the internet, so it is easy for me to grant his wish. Apparently he can still stir up passions among his current hunters. I can let that slide, but I know when I am out hunting I don't want to hear the PH griping about former clients the entire time. I'm there to hunt, and expect the PH to focus on my trip, and not events of a year ago.

Good luck to all of those with the stones to hunt with Nixon this year. I do hope you have a great hunt,and get your trophies out of Zim. I'll be leaving on my next hunt in very short order. Good luck to everyone this year.

Bill

quote:

Originally posted by Andrew McLaren:
BTT for the benefit of new readers.

See here:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...1411043/m/7961030131

And here:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...043/m/7021038321/p/1

The wheels of justice turns slowly!

Andrew McLaren

Why the f do you feel the need to stir this up again? More hearsay is all we have.

quote:

During the investigation of Nixon with Parks, SBT and HKittle submitted a letter stating that they did not hunt with Simon, and essentially their hunt reports on AR were false. They have proceeded with trying to import their illegally taken trophies

May I ask how you know this?

Do you have any proof?

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

During the investigation of Nixon with Parks, SBT and HKittle submitted a letter stating that they did not hunt with Simon, and essentially their hunt reports on AR were false. They have proceeded with trying to import their illegally taken trophies

May I ask how you know this?

Do you have any proof?

Great question. The answer to which plays into the concerns and admonitions voiced here by myself, Ganyana, Shakari and others.

Things are not as simple as they seem, and there are cosequences to making assumptions without the support of concrete and verifiable facts.

Zim is an iternational outcast, isolated by the rest of the world in an attempt to force changes thorough state and diplomatic channels. Deprive the regime of the fuel it needs to sustain itself (foreign trade and currency) to force change. An economic blockade.

The US State Department permits little trade with Zim. As do many other countries. Humanantarian services and essential services are among the few allowed these days. And the safari business. The safari business is one of the very few sources of foreign currency in Zim. And that fact is surely known by our government.

Overlaid upon that background are the US's obligations under international treaties - like CITES. And let's not forget that the current administration is more prone to take a position contrary to the interests of the safari industry. In other words, they are more likely to take a broader view of CITES, the Lacey Act and similar legal standards.

We have a situation here that presents a win, win win when it comes to action. Banning US citizens from hunting in Zim? A political win. Would go over well as another nailin Bob's coffin, play well to enviromental and animal rights groups, and tweak the noses of hunters and gun owners.

A diplomatic win. Removing a source of non humantarian foreign currency is a no brainer that scores major points.

An international win. Shows the treaty partners of the US that it is serious about its roles nd responsibilities.

SO when a Lacey Act case is laidout in a public forum on a silver platter, a case that can be used to show the world that US citizens are held accoutnable to international standards, authorities are going to take notice.

IF you don't think discussions have not already been archived, and board discussions detailing Zim hunts with one operator archived and stored, you are being naive.

The Lacey act has two avenues of penalties - one civil, for unintentional violations and one criminal, for intentional violations. Intent is always extremely difficult to prove in court and in a criminal case must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Which is an extreme challenge for a prosecutor.

But, if you sit back and watch things develop
rather than go in guns blazaing, sometimes it pays off.

Imagine a case where reports make it appear there is strong evidence of a violation. What you don't have any evidence of is intent.

You know one of your couterparts in a foreign country is investigating. As it happens to be a country dying to restore full relations, you work through state to extract cooperation.

The foreign agency gets sworn statements from your citizens, denying a set of facts they have already represented in public as true. In exchange for these affidavits, the foreign country releases their trophies.

Importing illegal trophies is also a Lacey act violation separate and apart from taking game illegally. The latter of which would also be hard to prove for a criminal prosecution just based on the words of witnesses.

Criminal cases requiring intent are built on circumstantial evidence. And the more the better.

So trophies are imported and wham! Game illegally taken, illegal importation and CITES violations, perjury, fraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, etc. As you add more charges, the maximum jail time starts to be a real eye opener. If someone is staring at a possible 20, 30 or 40 year package, their desire to roll the dice goes down accordingly. That is a case that quaifies as a trifecta. And a solid couple of Lacey Act criminal prosecutions provides evidence to justify across the board sanctions on a rogue country and an industry that has unwittingly conspired to aid that nations internationally condemned ways.

I hope I am wrong.

You are.

Jim,

You act as if the evidence/facts, etc. laid out here contends that Llamapacker is the victim.

You are either delusional or friends with Phifer. You are certainly in the minority opinion.

quote:

Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Jim,

You act as if the evidence/facts, etc. laid out here contends that Llamapacker is the victim.

You are either delusional or friends with Phifer. You are certainly in the minority opinion.

Well, I am not friends with Pfifer so I guess you are accusing me of being delusional. Before descending into name calling, you might want to read what was written, and not read into it. No where did I state or imply that Pfifer was the victim. We have little in the way of provable "fact" to determine whose OX was gored.

My point here is that the "victim" might turn out to be the Zim Safari industry and hunters.

quote:

Originally posted by Jim Manion:

quote:

Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Jim,

You act as if the evidence/facts, etc. laid out here contends that Llamapacker is the victim.

You are either delusional or friends with Phifer. You are certainly in the minority opinion.

Well, I am not friends with Pfifer so I guess you are accusing me of being delusional. Before descending into name calling, you might want to read what was written, and not read into it. No where did I state or imply that Pfifer was the victim. We have little in the way of provable "fact" to determine whose OX was gored.

My point here is that the "victim" might turn out to be the Zim Safari industry and hunters.

No, we don't have physical evidence. But using logic, how on earth can you believe any of Phifer's claims? How on earth do his actions seem logical?

If the Zim safari industry is so fragile that this would destroy it, then it deserves to die.

But I don't think it is. In any event, it is no excuse not to police our own.

I guess Iam coming at this a little differently. Having seen peoples lives destroyed by trail by the media, I would hope that we all realize that, if we were in a situation where we felt wrongly accused, we would be judged under the presumption of innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

quote:

But using logic, how on earth can you believe any of Phifer's claims?

I do not necessarily believe them. It is just that at this point with the absence of concrete facts, the credibility of the claims of both parties seem to be even.

quote:

In any event, it is no excuse not to police our own.

On that point, you and I are in total agreement. If and when the real facts get sorted out here, whomever turns out to be the real culprit should be prosecuted to the max.

quote:

Originally posted by Jim Manion:
I guess Iam coming at this a little differently. Having seen peoples lives destroyed by trail by the media, I would hope that we all realize that, if we were in a situation where we felt wrongly accused, we would be judged under the presumption of innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

quote:

But using logic, how on earth can you believe any of Phifer's claims?

I do not necessarily believe them. It is just that at this point with the absence of concrete facts, the credibility of the claims of both parties seem to be even.

quote:

In any event, it is no excuse not to police our own.

On that point, you and I are in total agreement. If and when the real facts get sorted out here, whomever turns out to be the real culprit should be prosecuted to the max.

Jim,

I have no idea how you can believe Nixon stole Phifer's TCs or that the email about the gifts was fabricated by a guy who isn't even computer literate.

So if Nixon didn't fabricate the email, who did? And what motivation would they have to do that?

You talked about intent. Consider the motives. I just can't believe a guy who has had raving reviews (Nixon) would steal from a client, create false emails, endanger his own business, etc.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

During the investigation of Nixon with Parks, SBT and HKittle submitted a letter stating that they did not hunt with Simon, and essentially their hunt reports on AR were false. They have proceeded with trying to import their illegally taken trophies

May I ask how you know this?

Do you have any proof?

Saeed,

I have e-mail correspondence from ZPHGA documenting this.

It seems their investigation lost a lot of steam when a couple AR members sent letters stating that their posts on AR were untrue, and the events they described on this site did not happen. As I had already sumitted an affadavit, they were looking for additional hunters to come forward with their expereinces. The hunt reports posted on this site, if true, were enough to move forward.

I don't really blame those hunters for recanting. There is no way they could ever import their trophies if they stuck with their story. The desire to import their trophies was stronger than their desire to state the truth in this matter. No big surprise.

Bill

Bill-

On the topic of fact versus innuendo, that is a two way street.

If posts here on AR were a sufficient for Zim authorities to move forward on an investigation, it just might be that the sam would hold true for US authorities.

Your posts about two other members here certainly creates an issue of whether other hunters may be in vioave seenlation of laws. You imply that they falsified affidavits in order to get trohies that may have been illegally taken. I doubt you know this to be fact, and no good can come from your speculation here. And unless you have seen the actual affidavits, and have solid evidence that they were in fact untruthful, what you are doing is no different from what you have complained others have done to you.

I doubt either of the hunters you have named would be so reckless to trade geting their hands on trophies of dubious origin against the possible fines and even loss of personal freedoms. Keep in mind that when people post hunting reports they do not include every single detail.

quote:

Originally posted by Jim Manion:
the real culprit should be prosecuted to the max.

Agreed. If this thread has shown anything, there is plenty of scope for more than one issue and more than one culprit.

Dean

for of you old lady hens bickering about heresay and "who did what and when".....

there are a few shady people out there who try to take advantage of good people and unfortunately they can get away with it, and there isnt really much Nixon can do, I just returned from a hunt last week with Nixon, and he is one of the kindest, personable people i have had the pleasure to hunt with. ANd unfortunately he was swindled by a shady person, who blasted him online, where he cant really defend himself, so people like myself and my father who have just bet and hunted with him, have to explain to you trolls what happedned.

Phifer pulled the trigger, hes gotta pay, its black and white,

he said underhanded things went on so he could discredit Nixon and get away clean with his crime.
(stolen TC's, fucken really)
who the hell would steal TC's from under a clients nose

(stolen equipment) that he brought as gifts

goddam this guy was shady from the get go, didnt shoot the right elephant and cant man up to the responsiblity....

the park investigation turned up nothing incriminating about nixon....hmmmm wonderwhy, maybe he didnt do anything
This post has been alot of bs all around, and we should all kill this thread,

some people are taking action to see if nixon can get his money back and thats the best we can do

so all you internet trolls, keep your nose outta this please, lets kill this thread

and if any one with factual information can refute me than i will take back my statements and stand corrected,

but i doubt many of u have met nixon or phifer

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

During the investigation of Nixon with Parks, SBT and HKittle submitted a letter stating that they did not hunt with Simon, and essentially their hunt reports on AR were false. They have proceeded with trying to import their illegally taken trophies

May I ask how you know this?

Do you have any proof?

A fair question and easily answered. SBT and HKittle, were the hunt reports you posted here on AR in which you both cite numerous times hunting dangerous game with Simon (in the absence of Nixon) accurate? A simple question requiring a simple one word answer.

The silence that will follow should speak volumes. Should they somehow recant their very detailed hunt reports, a whole other set of issues comes to bear.

AzWriter....this is has nothing to do with the Phifer issue before you go down that path again....

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Originally posted by Bwanahile:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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During the investigation of Nixon with Parks, SBT and HKittle submitted a letter stating that they did not hunt with Simon, and essentially their hunt reports on AR were false. They have proceeded with trying to import their illegally taken trophies

May I ask how you know this?

Do you have any proof?

A fair question and easily answered. SBT and HKittle, were the hunt reports you posted here on AR in which you both cite numerous times hunting dangerous game with Simon (in the absence of Nixon) accurate? A simple question requiring a simple one word answer.

The silence that will follow should speak volumes. Should they somehow recant their very detailed hunt reports, a whole other set of issues comes to bear.

AzWriter....this is has nothing to do with the Phifer issue before you go down that path again....

Really?

To what extent does "breaking a rule" trigger a Lacey Act violation? Hunting in Tanzania after 6pm? Technically, that is illegal. Paying off game scouts? Clearly illegal. Shooting certain game with less than the legal caliber? Again, illegal.

Want me to keep going?

You know what is really bullshit Bwanawhile? if Phifer would have shot a 50 lbs ele this whole thing would have been a non issue. Do you doubt that?

AnotherAZWriter,

You really are too stupid to argue with.

You post your assumptions repeatedly (and state them as facts) in the hopes that others will start to believe you. It reminds me of some of our politicians in Washington. Tell a lie, make that many lies, and say them often enough, and maybe someone will believe you. It will probably even work with some feeble minded folks, but most can see through it. I don't care what you think happened, Nixon and I know what transpired, and I can live with my actions. My bill has been paid in full, but due to the actions of SSG I can never import my trophies. I'm moving on...

YoungGun90 - You might review the hunt report posted on your behalf. Malapati safari area does not have an open quota on Buffalo as your father stated. See the TR2 posted at the beginning of this thread for confirmation directly from Nixon. The communal area is another story, but since you have just been there, tell us all how many buffalo you even saw in the communal area. I don't know it as fact, but I would wager the buffalo was shot within the Safari area. I really don't care, but find it mildly amusing that you seem to buy Nixon's story hook line and sinker, yet a hunt report of your trip seems to indicate continuation of shady practices. I never started this internet "love fest", but I have learned plenty about Nixon's operation from this ongoing saga.

I'm glad to hear you had an enjoyable trip.

Bill

llamapacker
I'M HUNTING WITH NIXON THIS SEASON AND I DON"T NEED YOUR GOOD LUCK WISHES!!

Man the B.S meter is pegged!!.. If your easily distracted by smoke screens and shiny objects, then I guess you might be of the opinion that the theif...Errr..Hunter, could be the victim.. Certainly appears he is what he is..

My experience with Nixon (besides glowing referral's) is this..

I was supposed to hunt with Nixon last August, I contacted him via Duxdog that I was in a vehicle accident and would not be recovered enough to make my hunt. (actually still in recovery)..

Nixon graciously offered to roll my hunt over to next season and wished me a speedy recovery..

He could have easily said.. Very sorry about your bad luck ole chap, but we cannot refund or credit your 50% deposit..

One other time I was not able to make a hunt due to business commitments, notified agent & outfitter 5 months in advance... Guess what their response was.... Sorry, that's why it's called a deposit.. In the same paragraph threatened to sue me for slander if I said anything bad about my experience with them..

Take it for what you will... But that's my positive experience with Nixon and associates..

llamapacker, in all honesty i didnt really ask what area we were hunting in, nor did i really care, i was havin a good time wherever we went, allthough the communal lands for obvious reasons had way less game,

im pretty sure about the open buffalo quota though, i overheard nixon and my father talking about it more than once, but that isnt worth arguing about,

maybe my father will post on this thread to clear some stuff up, but i doubt it, he hates all this bullshit on this thread

I am not going to subject myself to an internet debate based upon incorrect information posted by Llamapacker, nor to any self imposed inquisitors. To do so sets one up as a reoccurring target. Those who know me, know my character and their opinions are the ones I value. This is my final comment on the subject.

I am stupid? I didn't put myself in the position you are in!

Okay, let me get this straight. You claim your hunt was conducted illegally. So why did you pull the trigger??

Why did you continue to hunt after your checks were "stolen?"

You know Phifer, if we took a poll asking who was the bigger shitbag, you or Nixon, who do you think would "win?"

Good luck hunting in Zim. You will never go back there without fear of arrest.

Well said SBT. I totally concur.