Glock 26- thoughts

24 March 2010, 04:21

RVL III

If you are leaving a firearm unattended, consider the below:

What happens when some little kid walks in w/Mommy and starts going through your stuff while you are in the restroom and a finds the gun? Dare I say what bad things could happen next?

You will be held liable civil and criminal court! Can you live with that?

The crooks in your town may go to the next to commit crime, but what about the ones passing through from the other town!

I would/have never left a firearm unattended in public!

That being said, I'd never carry in a bag anyhow. I had an old battle axe of a deputy sheriff tell a class of us new boots, and this was directed to the females in the class as fanny packs etc had yet to be, to always carry your firearm, badge and ID on your person. If they steal your purse you can still shoot 'em and they won't find out your a cop if they get away!

24 March 2010, 06:08

perry

That is VERY irresponsible. Tuck it into the daily news and take it with you.

Perry

24 March 2010, 06:20

Whitworth

quote:
Originally posted by perry:
That is VERY irresponsible. Tuck it into the daily news and take it with you.

Perry

+ 1

You are liable if anyone happens to get their hands on your piece. I also think it's better to carry it on yourself. If you really end up needing it, it should be easier to bring into play. JMHO.

24 March 2010, 17:39

rigs

That is not only irresponsible it is stupid to leave your gun in public no matter how safe you think it is!

24 March 2010, 22:52

<Andrew cempa>

Folks,

He should not be proud of his actions-leaving a firearm unattended-no excuses.

In a way, he is encouraging crime, not endeavoring to prevent it. How does he 'splain the theft of a loaded firearm to the local boys when it does happen? Enabler that he is, I guess.

We are talking about leaving a lethal weapon UNATTENDED in a public place. I think that is a crime in most cities, no?

I think we should condemn his self-admitted irresponsible/potentially illegal actions as a group.

Best;

25 March 2010, 01:38

Peter

Condemn as a group? He stated what he did and asked for comments ("discuss"). I think you guys have made some excellent points. That should be sufficient I would think.
Peter.

25 March 2010, 02:11

daniel77

He's both a troll and a moron. You've either been baited, or he won't be man enough to respond with the truth. I wouldn't let my BP rise over anything from WmSLadd/OXO....

25 March 2010, 02:15

ddrhook

daniel77,
please don't insult the morons of the world by putting them in a class with that eejuuttt

25 March 2010, 04:40

N E 450 No2

In most states, if someone gets his gun, and later hurts someone with it, he will most likely be prosecuted.

The only time I carry a gun "in a bag" is if I am on a trip and do not want to leave my third or fourth gun in the vehicle.

If I take it in some place it is always over my shoulder or the strap is wrapped around my leg.

If I am by myself I will carry my bag to the bathroom with me...

Leave a gun unattended in a public place, not me NEVER.

25 March 2010, 08:02

perry

quote:
Originally posted by daniel77:
He's both a troll and a moron. You've either been baited, or he won't be man enough to respond with the truth. I wouldn't let my BP rise over anything from WmSLadd/OXO....

Well how about it OXO, you bait us or was this a legit post?

Perry

25 March 2010, 09:17

<Andrew cempa>

Peter;

Yes, Condemn his irresponsible gun "control" actions-admitted to leaving a loaded handgun unattended (oops, the gal behind the counter had eyes on his "stuff", plus no one steals, yadad yada). His cavalier attitude marks him as a yahoo of the worst sort (he ain't ever wrong, dontcha know).

I think we should stand up and be counted whenever someone clearly indicates thier behavior is beyond the pale of reason.

"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing"

I have no personal issue with him, just his ridiculous assertions and behaviors; his words are fodder for the anti's.

25 March 2010, 12:09

ChetNC

Discuss?

25 March 2010, 16:29

griz78

quote:
Originally posted by 0X0:
(Same as at the trap club, where we leave shotguns sitting in racks on the porch of the clubhouse, along with ammo. And yeah, there are small children there too.)

Not likely to find small time crooks holding up a trap club. Where is this "Happy Place" you speak of?

25 March 2010, 16:47

Whitworth

quote:
Originally posted by griz78:
quote:
Originally posted by 0X0:
(Same as at the trap club, where we leave shotguns sitting in racks on the porch of the clubhouse, along with ammo. And yeah, there are small children there too.)

Not likely to find small time crooks holding up a trap club. Where is this "Happy Place" you speak of?

Evidently he lives in Utopia.

25 March 2010, 18:20

daniel77

Who is bringing a loaded gun into the trap club? or leaving a loaded gun on the rack?

gun safety 101 needs to be revisited by a lot of folks

26 March 2010, 02:41

lostchild1

I just have one question OXO where are you located just the state will do (I don't think you will tell the truth, but just for giggles please tell us what state, or city you are located)?

26 March 2010, 06:44

DuggaBoye

quote:
"Off Person" Carry --

Ain't gonna happen

Not by me at least--

I want it where I can get to it---NOW

26 March 2010, 15:24

rigs

Comparing a trap range where everyone is known to be bringing a firearm to leaving a loaded firearm in a coffee shop is not a valid point. I am not sure what trap club you belong to but at mine when someone says "Watch my shit I am going to take a leak." the gun is not loaded.

26 March 2010, 16:31

Whitworth

quote:
Originally posted by lostchild1:
I just have one question OXO where are you located just the state will do (I don't think you will tell the truth, but just for giggles please tell us what state, or city you are located)?

He'll avoid the question, you can rest assured.

26 March 2010, 19:10

<Andrew cempa>

quote:
If I go to the restroom -- which is the only place I go -- there's staff at the counter, watching the entire "floor."

And they are all vetted non-felons/nonprohibited persons-we know this how????

Small children are under control . . . No one is "unsupervised," because there's plenty of things for small children to break. Besides a lot of steaming hot coffee, and soups out on tables.

Small children by defintion are not "under control" at "all times", unless they are sedated. You are too trusting and naieve.

I'd never leave and go for a walk . . . But the stuff would be fine if I did. I don't think there's ever been more than 6 people in the place at once . . . and staff is larger than that. (They roast coffee in the back.)

No "kid" is going to get into my bag. Trust me on this one.

Okay. I trust you-to be a danger to others given the fact that you LEAVE A LOADED FIREARM UNATTENED IN A PUBLIC PLACE. It is the kids and other unauthorized persons I worry/care about.

(Same as at the trap club, where we leave shotguns sitting in racks on the porch of the clubhouse, along with ammo. And yeah, there are small children there too.)

I am active in several disiplines-not one range/event allows weapons to be unattended behind the ready line, and none tolerate the idea or practice of leaving unattended any weapon loaded unless ready to shoot and under the control of the firer, we practice safety, always!

Small town, no strangers, and no "loose children."

Ridiculous. I suggest you discuss your practice with the local PD Chief. I am sure he'll agree with your practices, as there are no strangers, criminals, "loose" kids etc in YOUR special "Walnut Grove" world

Time you step up and recognize you are WRONG about this point and correct your illogical and illegal behavior before someone does get hurt by your (criminal) negligence.

AR community; when are we going to make it a point to defend the basic rules of firearm safety and impress on 0X0 that he is wrong minded and his behavior as admitted is unacceptable? His comparison to "range ops" is irrelevant and sophomoric.

Regards;

26 March 2010, 19:19

onefunzr2

quote:
Originally posted by 0X0:
If I'm "out" I generally carry a laptop bag --

26 March 2010, 19:19

ChetNC

OXO is the only guy I ever put on ignore simply due to low post quality.

26 March 2010, 20:58

daniel77

If you've never understood or agreed with some of us freely using the ignore function for some posters, I submit this thread as a textbook example.

27 March 2010, 03:12

Whitworth

quote:
Originally posted by 0X0:
How about you assholes get a life? Any chance of that?

You've been sucked in. You're making assumptions. And you don't get "personal information" because I don't provide it -- precisely because you assholes don't need it.

Why don't you take your own advice? What's the point of posting here if you don't want to partake in real discussion?

27 March 2010, 07:12

RVL III

Let me find someone doing what you are claiming you are doing and that someone is going to jail!

27 March 2010, 17:00

Whitworth

Is it really? Why is it that you changed the title of this thread? I think my presumption is a safe one.

27 March 2010, 17:51

perry

Gentlemen (that excludes the author of this post),

Quit responding to this kind of post and it goes away. Have a laugh...we were baited. The p.f. is where non-sense like this belongs, leave it there.

Perry

27 March 2010, 18:09

<Andrew cempa>

quote:
YOU'RE making assumptions. And you people wonder why we shouldn't provide information online.

No, Friend, you are caught spouting BS and self-admitted illegal, unethical and unsafe gun carry practices, my response called you to the carpet.

Your "counter" is to attempt to deceive and misrepresent yourself. Troll I am not.

Your irrascible practices, self admitted and all, are counter-intuitive to firearms possession and carry.

Begone!

30 March 2010, 07:56

0X0

quote:
Originally posted by Andrew cempa:

No, Friend, you are caught spouting BS and self-admitted illegal, unethical and unsafe gun carry practices, my response called you to the carpet.

Your "counter" is to attempt to deceive and misrepresent yourself. Troll I am not.

Your irrascible practices, self admitted and all, are counter-intuitive to firearms possession and carry.

Begone!

You're full of shit. You've not been in the place, don't know the situation, but you're sure as fuck ready to jump in misinformed and self-righteously upbraid.

You missed the post: "Watch my shit, I'm going to go take a leak." This to someone I know, sitting at the same table. That's the way it works.

You'd be WRONG in your assumptions, and an asshole for making them.

Now fuck off and be on your way.

01 April 2010, 06:07

DRG

quote:
Originally posted by 0X0:
quote:
Originally posted by Andrew cempa:

No, Friend, you are caught spouting BS and self-admitted illegal, unethical and unsafe gun carry practices, my response called you to the carpet.

Your "counter" is to attempt to deceive and misrepresent yourself. Troll I am not.

Your irrascible practices, self admitted and all, are counter-intuitive to firearms possession and carry.

Begone!

You're full of shit. You've not been in the place, don't know the situation, but you're sure as fuck ready to jump in misinformed and self-righteously upbraid.

You missed the post: "Watch my shit, I'm going to go take a leak." This to someone I know, sitting at the same table. That's the way it works.

You'd be WRONG in your assumptions, and an asshole for making them.

Now fuck off and be on your way.

I think we've had enough of your antics.

Have a good life, but you are banned from AR.

01 April 2010, 07:07

daniel77

I pray that this is not one of your April fool's jokes. If not, I sincerely thank you Don.

01 April 2010, 07:18

Ubuntu2K7

Bye Bye Zero Times Zero = ZERO (OXO)

01 April 2010, 07:20

<Andrew cempa>

I'm not glad it came to this endstate. I was hoping that he would take considered correction and receive reproof like an adult.

We must shoot straight and speak the truth...

01 April 2010, 07:30

SGraves155

Andrew,
he's had multiple incarnations (45/70Govt, AmandaJean, WmS.Ladd, RoosterColeburn, to name a few) that have all eventually been banned for the same reasons. Some people never learn, never change.

01 April 2010, 07:40

daniel77

quote:
Originally posted by Andrew cempa:
I'm not glad it came to this endstate. I was hoping that he would take considered correction and receive reproof like an adult.

We must shoot straight and speak the truth...

Everything he says is pure BS. I doubt he's dumb enough to actually do as he was saying. He was just a troll trying to stir up sh!t. He'll be back under a new alias in a couple of days. You'll see...

01 April 2010, 08:38

Whitworth

I sure am going to miss old Laddy-Boy er OXO.......yeah right.......

I sincerely hope this isn't an April fools joke.

01 April 2010, 13:05

Edmond

quote:
Originally posted by RVL III:
If you are leaving a firearm unattended, consider the below:

What happens when some little kid walks in w/Mommy and starts going through your stuff while you are in the restroom and a finds the gun? Dare I say what bad things could happen next?

You will be held liable civil and criminal court! Can you live with that?

The crooks in your town may go to the next to commit crime, but what about the ones passing through from the other town!

I would/have never left a firearm unattended in public!

That being said, I'd never carry in a bag anyhow. I had an old battle axe of a deputy sheriff tell a class of us new boots, and this was directed to the females in the class as fanny packs etc had yet to be, to always carry your firearm, badge and ID on your person. If they steal your purse you can still shoot 'em and they won't find out your a cop if they get away!

Just happened to a female cop. She let her badge and ID in a purse on the passenger seat when locked in traffic jams.
The window glass was broken and the purse disappeared. That is the latest trend here, beware when driving from Charles de Gaulle airport to Paris using the nothern highway (A1)

Fortunately, she did not have her handgun at that moment.