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I'm not taking any position on this, so don't shoot the messenger.
xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | ||
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The very same can be said for signs, bumper stickers or any thing else that might be used to show that one is trigger happy. Or statements made on the computer remember anything you put on line can be used against you. | |||
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I am a retired military NCO and former Federal Agent and Alaska Police Officer. Bad decisions with a firearm will make you or someone else dead. It is unfortunate to say the least that this happened. You are accountable for every bullet you send down range, this is a terrible tragedy. As far as "cute" statements on a firearm, I don't have anything like that on mine. Probably wouldn't, but if a guy wants to do that it is up to him. | |||
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I think that "five times..." is what's going to hang him. The ejection port door motto isn't going to help things. | |||
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Five shots in a defensive shooting really isn't that many. It is all about if the shots were justifiable. | |||
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just think if it had blaser engraved on it | |||
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Then we wouldn't be having this conversation, as he would have missed the target altogether. | |||
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Rich: A friend and local Swat cop here faced a guy opening the door with a gun in his hand. Cop buried 12 or 16 rounds from his clip in the guy. His partner put a few more in at the same time. DA: "Man was paid for when he opened the door to face the cops with a gun in his hand". George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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Different but one other thing is the use of hollow point defense loads in your firearm. This is a sensible ammo for self defense, but if you use them, and I certainly do, if you are in a conflict, the first thing you need to tell your lawyer is, "My licenses instructor told me that the use of hollow point ammo is to avoid a shoot through hitting another parson, because a hollow point rarely shoots through the target perp hitting some innocent person!" This is so the lawyer can contest a the prosecutions statement in court that the hollow point was an indication that you wanted to kill the Perp, rather than just stopping him! Courts are ruthless when they want to prosecute someone, and will use anything they can find to make you look bad for the jury. ................................................................... ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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ALL you need to know if you unfortunately have to shoot someone "I feared for my life". | |||
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and "I want a lawyer". xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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I know a Tanzanian gentleman who saw fit to engrave his classic Krieghoff double with opposed scenes of bunny's doing the nasty! I believe he refers to the rifle by its proper name "Bunny Lovin'". I can not imagine the difficulty he had convincing Krieghoff he was serious when placing that order. Macs B U.S. Army Retired Alles gut! | |||
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And no stupid postings on Facebook or any social media sites. Mike | |||
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Mac is absolutely right on hollowpoints. Overpenetration is not your friend and is a source of potential liability even if the shooting itself is totally justified. | |||
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this is the advice i got a long time ago from an old friend of mine who is the county sherrif here......... | |||
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First - remember that jury members learn all about guns from TV and anti-gun media !!! They " know " that HPs are to kill ! | |||
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As a follow up, I guess it is not that bad if you can afford a good lawyer as the officer was found not guilty, he did get fired though: https://www.azcentral.com/stor...r-killing/927052001/ The engraving was not allowed as evidence as it was considered to be prejudicial. Also interesting to note that one of the other officers has retired and moved to the Philippines. for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside | |||
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Because Philippine women can be incredibly sexy and that's just the start of the problems. When he runs out of money, he'll be back. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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This came up while watching a CLE titled “What Every Texas Lawyer Needs to Know about Firearms Law.” Masaad Ayoub (the former cop/gun writer) is an expert witness now. He had a few stories about the engraved messages. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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I use the exact same ammunition in my carry gun that the local sheriff (my issuing authority) uses. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Even if you're not arrested you still face a possible civil suit from the next of kin. In that arena those more aggressive customizations can cost a whole lot of money if they contribute to a judgment. | |||
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Also by Massad Ayoub's advice as well as others,that do NOT carry handloads in your defense pistol.The tales of the DA talking about how factory ammo was not powerful enough so you loaded your own intending to kill , ad nauseum ,are legion.Carry the factory loads + keep the box + the extra rounds in it.When it goes to the lab,that info might save your bacon.Also,I carry a Kimber 1911 + not my Les Baer because one thing that you can be sure of is that you WILL lose that pistol.Maybe get it back,maybe not. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Sooooo with this line of thinking, you should put "I only use in self defense when I cannot retreat" on all your guns. If they are using flair as intent, then why not flair as a defense? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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